Bernadette Protti IS Jeannette Tomanka: Bernadette Protti found! New name Jeannette Tomanka!

Saturday, December 6, 2014

Bernadette Protti found! New name Jeannette Tomanka!

Bernadette Protti aka Jeannette Tomanka

For many years I have been reading about Kirsten Costas and Bernadette Protti. Since the time I watched the lifetime movie "A Friend to Die For", I found myself obsessed with this case. Years later the Costas family is still in pain and they will never have their beloved child back. But Bernadette and her family have moved on had children successful careers (Google Virgina Protti Varela) she is a CEO now! I have dedicated this blog to honor Kirsten's memory.

Virginia Protti Varela the CEO

Bernadette has changed her name to Jeannette Tomanka. A quick Google search and you will see what she has been up to. She also runs a fake Facebook and Twitter account where she uses her name but changes the location to through web sleuths off into thinking that's not her. But pay close attention to the page. She never shows her face or has photos and her friends and family call her Bernie, but she quickly deletes those comments. I don't know why other blogs will not out her. It isn't illegal and I would never post her numbers or addresses even though they are easily google-able. I'm not protecting a murderer. If she committed that crime today she would still be locked up.

Oh, and Virginia and Jeannette or Bernie don't even bother with the dumb and senseless comments you leave. I suggest you change your name again or better yet just apologize to the Costas family and own the fact your're a killer. That's a fact. And now your sister is a a millionaire and it was her knife. So she claims. The Costas family should sue you clowns for every penny your worth since you guys are not "poor" anymore.

1812 Comments:

At August 31, 2018 at 7:12 PM , Anonymous said...: Isn't it amazing how family members can love each other unconditionally in spite of their failings? Yours, for example, have obviously come to terms with your self-righteous jackassery.
At August 31, 2018 at 11:58 PM , Anonymous said...: What is amazing is the selfishness that Bernadette how shown. I sincerely hope that her children will find a way to be okay when one day they find out the horror of who their mother truly is.
At September 3, 2018 at 10:41 AM , Anonymous said...: The family lied and covered up for a murderer yet throw religion around so meaninglessly - as a delusional excuse for forgiveness, a pathetic means to justify their denial.
At September 3, 2018 at 5:30 PM , Karen : ) said...: I see there is a lot to catch up on. How many Anonymous' are commenting?
At September 4, 2018 at 3:24 PM , Anonymous said...: At September 3, 2018 at 5:30 PM , Blogger Purple haze said...
I see there is a lot to catch up on. How many Anonymous' are commenting?
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Hi Purple Haze.
More than 1 anonymous. Mine and someone else replying. Here is one of mine: August 31, 2018 at 12:13 PM I also made comments before and the comment above yours. I don't know who the other ones are.
At September 5, 2018 at 5:58 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous.

Thank you for your reply. I still haven't had time to look at all the comments, but I will soon.
Thank you for providing links. That was very helpful. Maybe I should do the same.
All the best.
At September 14, 2018 at 9:43 PM , kristine said...: Leopard never changes its spots....
At September 15, 2018 at 9:08 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: A leopard's spots are physical.....
If Jennifer Grey can change her nose (a physical aspect) then someone can definitely change and learn from past mistakes or be rehabilitated from mental health issues if they really want to change.
I'd LOVE all you people who keep throwing stones yet live in Glass Houses to have their mistakes define the rest of their life and continue to be rubbed in their face as they try to learn and grow away from them.
At September 16, 2018 at 12:44 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: September 15, 2018 at 9:08 AM , Blogger THISGIRL965 said..

The fact that you consider murder a mere "mistake" tells me that you lack what is necessary to grasp anything. I won't bother to explain it to you.
At September 16, 2018 at 12:54 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I hope you are well. I still haven't had the time to go over all of the comments lately, but I will say this in response to your comment to the person above you:the best response to a fool is silence.
At September 16, 2018 at 4:35 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: First of all "Anonymous" I never said murder was a "mere mistake". Mistakes vary in magnitude therefore your definition of a "mere mistake" will differ from that of someone else.

Secondly even if I did consider this (or any murder for that matter) a "mistake", the mistake is not the act of ending the life of another person. The mistake would be the reaction and action to a trigger that caused the horrible act.
My point is that while one life ended another is going to continue with the knowledge of what they did and have to deal with it for as long as they live.
She has to deal with it daily on her own.
No one here is the ultimate judge to continually pass judgement and decree the content of this person's character.
That is between her and whatever her higher power is to pass when the time comes.
None of the people here pointing fingers and accusing and condemning know anything beyond what they read and that makes you worse than her.
Again, those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. To paraphrase the saying: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
So that must mean that everyone here is a saint right?
I didn't think so.

As for, 'Purple Haze' and the "the best response to a fool is silence" comment, you are absolutely correct! Which is exactly why I haven't responded to you in quite awhile and yet HEREYOUARE.
You continue to have a hard on for me and my comments!
At September 16, 2018 at 5:56 PM , Unknown said...: It's interesting how people are blaming Kirsten. She was a victim. It doesnt matter how she acted. The popular crowd has always been cute, rich, and a little bratty. Its too bad that Jeanette Tomanka had a paranoid goal of being popular. Kind of a sad goal. If she would have just fit in and waited she would have found she got everything she wanted. She has looks, money, a good looking husband, and children. Kind of an oxymoron. Sad.
At September 16, 2018 at 8:47 PM , Anonymous said...: What an unintentionally funny comment.
At September 18, 2018 at 11:23 PM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965,

I read the blog attached to your profile. Are you still struggling with your weight? I'm not asking you to be rude and I'm not putting you down. People who eat their feelings are not the happiest people and you wrote that you struggled with your weight all your life, so I don't see a point in why anyone would make you feel worse. I read that you used to shop at a thrift store when you wee younger because you didn't have money. This isn't a criticism but anyone who reads your blog will understand why you hate Kirsten so much - she represented someone you aspired to be. Permanent weight loss requires a permanent change in eating habits. Have you heard of NLP? People have had weight loss success by using NLP.
At September 18, 2018 at 11:33 PM , Anonymous said...: The emotional immaturity and teenage expressions makes so much sense now.
At September 18, 2018 at 11:35 PM , Itsaboutime said...: You compare plastic surgery to the act of murder. You are delusional.
At September 18, 2018 at 11:54 PM , Anonymous said...: A lot of what is said here are facts. Statements from detectives, family, friends, and from the horses mouth herself
At September 19, 2018 at 12:34 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: At September 16, 2018 at 4:35 AM , Blogger THISGIRL965 said.. (Partial comment, full comment above);
"None of the people here pointing fingers and accusing and condemning know anything beyond what they read and that makes you worse than her. "

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It is ludicrous to speak of Bernadette's mental health and to tell others that they are worse than Bernadette - she is the murderer, not us. People do have the right to not like a murderer - after all, what is there to trust about such a person?

What I know is from the facts available, such as: newspapers from that time, court papers, etc... (which you can find the links to many of these reputable, independent sources on this blog), and not from the opinions of others. Although, people are entitled to look at the facts of the case and form an intelligent opinion based on them.

You keep mentioning "mental health" - can you please supply a link by posting it here to show where Bernadette's mental health was raised as an issue during her trial? I have not come across any "factual data" about her mental health during the trial. Bernadette, simply put, was all about Bernadette.
At September 19, 2018 at 1:13 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: W.O.W.
First of all, I never had a blog. I just looked up this so-called blog under my name.....
Apparently no one has heard of hackers or anyone (I have a strong suspicion of who posted this "blog" under my account but have to do some investigating. Thank you for bringing this to my attention!) playing a practical joke on another person.
As for the "I'm not trying to be rude" passive aggressive bullshit, get over yourself your fake concern is beyond transparent.
And I am not comparing plastic surgery to murder, interpret what I said however you want I know what I said.
As for Bernadette having mental health issues you all want to claim expertise on the subject yet act like there is no mental health issues with someone who commits a murder?!
GTFOH!!!!
At September 19, 2018 at 11:50 AM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965,

That doesn't make sense. The blog has been attached to your profile for as long as you have been commenting here. Out of all the people who have commented here over the years, why are you the only person complaining of being hacked? If someone was going to hack you, they would attach something sinister to your blog, not a harmless blog about a few experiences as a child. The more likely scenario is that you didn't realize your blog could be viewed by anyone else and now that you know it has, you are embarrassed and trying to blame someone else. If you are going to accuse someone here of hacking you, you better have evidence. I look forward to reading your findings about the alleged hacker.
At September 19, 2018 at 2:13 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: LMAO
Not that I need to justify myself to an "Anonymous" source but I have had a Google account since I first purchased a Google based android phone. I don't use G-mail or any Google products other than the search engine. Since my phone automatically links to the account that was created when my phone was purchased, the screen name automatically populates when I respond to this thread.
If you are so much the private investigator you would see that this so called blog was created back in 2010 with only 4 entries.
If I was "fat" I would own it and call you out for fat shaming someone in the first place!
As you have seen I have repeatedly posted on this site because notifications are sent to my actual email address. Whoever created that blog did so under whatever defunct Gmail account was created and changed information so that even I can't access it and/or delete it. I don't need to be embarrassed about a THING. If I did struggle with my weight that would have been a personal issue that has no bearing on my opinion of all you self-appointed judge/jury/executioner/witch hunters here.
And anyone that deviates from an intelligent debate with personal attacks automatically loses points with the judge in a sanctioned debate.
Get over yourself and stick to the topic at hand.

https://ibb.co/n7om9z

Does this look like a Gmail account to you?
No?
Why is that?
Maybe because I don't have a Gmail account.
At September 19, 2018 at 3:28 PM , Anonymous said...: You said you weren't going to justify yourself, but you have just tried to. You said you were hacked and had suspicions of who it was, so why are you back peddling? I suppose random blog diaries or Gmail accounts automatically attach themselves to random blog usernames now. Are you saying that someone else's Gmail account had the same blog username as you and you somehow ended up with their account because you're using the same name?(THISGIRL965)That makes sense...no,not really. It's BS. Who cares how long ago the blog was written. You noticed there was a blog diary attached to your username that wasn't yours and you apparently couldn't delete, so why didn't you just abandon the blog account and create a new account? Why continue to write under a username that has someone else's blog diary attached to it? When you create a username to write on a blog, you have to give an email address, so how did someone else's blog diary from another Gmail account end up under your username.
You weren't called names or belittled for your weight, so where is this fat shaming? I don't know why you posted a http. It proves nothing. A person can and does have more than one email account. What personal attacks have you been subjected to? If anything, other people have been on the receiving end of personal attacks from you. You didn't come here to have an intelligent debate and to suggest otherwise is disengenuous. You are indeed embarrassed. Personal info has been revealed about you that you unknowingly made public, so you try to explain it away using comical excuses. God bless.
At September 19, 2018 at 4:35 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 19, 2018 at 4:50 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: LMAO
Wow!!!!
It's always so easy to point fingers when hiding behind the anonymous moniker.
Yet since that is who I am responding to, when did I backpeddle?
Not only that but whatever web you just spun is much more confusing than the truth which I've already explained.
My user name has been my user name via Google since 2008.
That blog was created (and yes my suspicions were IN FACT correct as the blog in question has now either been corrected or deleted from what I was told and saw) by someone I know playing a prank, that hacked an email address I never used.
As for the passive aggressive and fake concern over my supposed struggle with weight loss, it was a very thinly veiled back handed concern which was used to try and paint me as someone who "hates" a murder victim.
I (MIGHT) have said that I hate people "like that".
(Notice the use of the word might here! I don't have the time or energy to go back and read every single one of my comments so I say might because I'm not 100% certain and won't proceed as if I am.)
Which refers to a specific personality type, not an individual.
For all of you pitchfork and torch wielding individuals who want to paint St. Kirsten as not fitting this mold there is no reason then, in my opinion, to take my comments personally in that case if you disagree.
As for the opinion that I am not here for an intelligent debate, the tone of my responses have been in kind.
What initially drew me to respond on this thread in the first place was the venom being spewed towards this woman (who isn't even allowed to defend herself lest she be drawn and quartered) and the need to try and keep her in the gutter instead of letting her move forward after having already paid her debt to society.
You have too much time on your hands honey, go back to OBSESSING OVER and investigating a decades long, solved, murder trial and condemning someone who is trying to turn their life around.
It better suits your time.
At September 19, 2018 at 4:59 PM , Itsaboutime said...: How convenient. It mysteriously disappears the minute you were outed LOL �� LOL
As you would say. You have been outed. Just OWN it.
At September 19, 2018 at 6:14 PM , Anonymous said...: My real name is Karen, how do you do! In your last comment you diverged from the hacking story and wrote something about your new phone linking to an account, and now you have gone back to the hacking story. Oh, it was a prank by your friend? Why would your friend go the trouble of creating a normal blog? If a friend was going to prank you with a fake blog, wouldn't they make something up about things that would really embarrass you, like embarrassing sexual encounters or weird fetishes? Amazing how the blog has suddenly been deleted by someone you know after it was mentioned here. Why didn't they delete it years ago and why would you continue to write under a username that has a fake blog attached to it? Well, your comments have shown that you do hate Kirsten and it has nothing to do with what you mentioned. Everyone has struggles as a teenager, but you struggled as a child with things she didn't struggle with and you hate her for it. There is only 1 person taking things seriously here. I enjoy your comments, particularly the latest ones with the lies and excuses. Your tone has been kind? Cursing, calling names, belittling people who don't agree with you and belittling a murder victim isn't kind. There is nothing wrong with you giving your opinions, but name calling and expressing yourself childishly will obviously not be taken seriously. Bernadette is a murderer and her behavior before and after the murder was twisted, which people are obviously going to point out, whether you like it or not. Cheerio, my friend.
At September 19, 2018 at 6:39 PM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965 said...A leopard's spots are physical.....If Jennifer Grey can change her nose (a physical aspect) then someone can definitely change and learn from past mistakes or be rehabilitated from mental health issues if they really want to change.

What an astute insight! Well, why the hell didn't anyone say that to the judges that convicted Jeffery Dahmer or Charles Manson? All they needed to do was have the desire to change and all would be well.
At September 19, 2018 at 7:18 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Ohhhhh my......
Where to begin....
Jeffery Dahmer and Charles Manson were brutal serial killers, much different than a disturbed teenager girl who still had the ability to be rehabilitated as seen fit by a judge and all involved.

As for the witch hunt about the mysterious blog I've already said my peace.
I confronted the person who posted it, they admitted to it, and said blog has since been removed.
Not "immediately" after I was called out on it. Check the time stamps. This was brought to my attention last night. If I wanted to "get rid of it" because I was "embarrassed" I would have done so immediately and never returned here.
I have nothing to hide.
The only "continued writing" I have done under that user name has been responding to this thread.
Are there other blog posts?
No
Has there been any RECENT blog posts?
No
I proved I don't have a Gmail account (link goes to a picture hosting website) if I was fat and posted a blog about my "weight loss journey" then I would own it just as I have owned my identity from the beginning. And let me repeat, called you all out for body shaming someone.
Also making assumptions about my feelings towards anyone definitely falls under what happens when you assume.
I have done more than necessary to justify something that did NOT require any justification on my behalf, however I do applaud your ability to deviate from the top at hand with your little aimless witch hunt.
Kudos!!!
🍻
At September 19, 2018 at 8:18 PM , Anonymous said...: Hello friend. Karen here. Your comment bizarrely suggested a woman's nose was as changeable as mental issues. Bernadette is a murderer who continued on like nothing was wrong for months. When she was caught, the detective interviewing her said she only had concern for herself, which also matches up to her behavior in the months prior to her arrest. What does she have in common with Jeffrey and Manson? A lack of conscience. Where is this witch hunt? You seem to have a persecution complex. You've tried to explain away the blog and failed miserably. You would have seen the fake blog when you signed into your account, so why didn't you confront the person who allegedly wrote the fake blog years ago? Referring to your previous comment, if a friend wanted to prank you, why would they hack an account you no longer use or care for? What is the purpose of writing a normal blog as a prank? There is no” prank” in that and it doesn’t make sense. The blog was still on your account all these years because you didn't realize other people could read it. "Let me repeat"...where is this supposed fat shaming? Time stamps? Come on now, your time stamps are all in a day or so and that's hardly proof of anything.The http that you mentioned means nothing and isn't evidence you don't have other email accounts. As you know, there is such a thing as having more than one email account. You did get rid of the blog because you were embarrassed (it was gone within a day of it being mentioned) and you keep coming back here in a futile attempt to save face. Your feelings about Kirsten are as clear as your palpable embarrassment over your blog being read. If you think you didn't need to justify anything, why did you delete your blog and attempt to justify it by creating a story about being hacked? “Kudos” to you for the entertainment you bring.
At September 19, 2018 at 8:39 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 19, 2018 at 8:46 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 19, 2018 at 9:00 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: First of all "Karen" let me clarify.
You and I are not "friends".
Secondly all of the questions you ask seek a response.....
I'm not going to delve into the mind of the person who wrote it.
AGAIN let me repeat if I had written a blog I would have admitted to it. You continue to claim that there is no shame in "admitting" that a blog was written by my hand yet your continued comments are thinly veiled as such to make it seem like "admitting" to something I did not do would somehow exonerate my behavior.
Also if there is "nothing wrong" with having written a blog that could be read by the public why would I need to be "embarassed".
I've never known of any "blog" that could be written and made private. What would be the purpose of such a blog when a person could just write a journal on their computer that could be kept private without fear of it being seen.
I'm glad you seek entertainment by accusing people of whatever you see fit and holding your riteous ground no matter how wrong you are.
May I suggest another hobby or seeking out some mental health assistance for your odd hobby.
I didn't delete write any blog nor delete one.
An issue was brought to my attention, I addressed and insured that the appropriate party made the correction necessary.
I have already provided the explanation of what happened. If you're not satisfied with said explanation, that sounds like a personal problem to me, one that does not concern me.
At September 19, 2018 at 9:31 PM , Anonymous said...: Hello THISGIRL965. Karen here. What do you mean we are not friends? Why ever not?! I think you are just swell. You don't need to put Karen in inverted comments. It actually is my real name. Perhaps I will change my blog name to Karen. You don't need to answer my questions at all, obviously. The purpose of the questions was to point out the fallacies of your hacking story and other explanations. You also said you didn't need to justify anything, yet here you are continuing to make justifications. Exonerated? What an odd thing to say. You don't need to admit to anything because I know you wrote the blog diary, but I have enjoyed reading your many attempts at explaining it away, which were bizarre to say the least. I didn't mention anything about "shame" in any comment. I pointed out you were embarrassed. If you feel shame, which you must because you are the only person that has brought it up, that is neither here nor there to me. Sure, I find your responses and victim complex amusing. I haven't even tried to get under your skin, yet I clearly have and that certainly is amusing. You think me calling out your BS is a “hobby” that requires health assistance? There's that victim complex again. You can give it, but can't take it, not that I was even trying to “give it” in the first place. How odd that you never noticed the “issue” was attached to your account in all of the years that you signed into your account and only deleted it when it was mentioned here. "May I suggest" you go out for some air and stop taking yourself so seriously. Cheerio.
At September 19, 2018 at 9:56 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 19, 2018 at 10:11 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Oh goodness.
It's impossible to respond to delusion.
You "think I'm swell", "know I wrote a blog", and continue to mention "victim complex" yet when have I ever stated I was victimized? And "I can give it but can't take it", what exactly am I trying to "give"?
I'm sticking to the topic of this blog post and as much as you want to point fingers you have deviated so far from the point you might as well be speaking another language.
I don't recall ever saying anything was "getting under my skin", so if that was your goal you have sadly failed.
No one has power over anyone else unless they let them. That includes you sweetie, so you can stop trying now and get back to your meds.
At September 19, 2018 at 10:44 PM , Anonymous said...: Hello again, ThISGIRL965. Karen here.
Of course I think you're swell. You did write the blog, which is why you deleted it after it was mentioned and you made up stories about being hacked. No amount of denials will change the fact that it is clear you wrote it, so why don't you just move on from it. Your repeated denials and bizarre stories only confirm that you did write it. Yes, you do have a victim complex. For example, you mentioned you were fat shamed and couldn't provide evidence, you said you were subjected to a witch hunt even though my comments have been polite, you wrote that I'm "accusing you of whatever I see fit", you suggested my comments have "thinly veiled insults" where there are no insults...etc. What have you "given"? You insult people you don't agree with or when you are unable to back up your points, and when it is mentioned to you, you descend into further childishness and attempt to shut down the conversations (most of which you initiate) by name calling or repeatedly bringing up something irrelevant and silly. You didn't need to mention that I got under your skin as your comments are evidence enough. I had no "goals" in mind when talking to you, just low expectations. I'm not trying to have power over you. There is another example of your victim complex. I haven't really tried anything, which makes our exchanges that much funnier. You said in previous comments that you didn't need to justify anything, yet you have repeatedly attempted to make justifications, which actually shows that a person does have some power over you (your word, not mine). Thank you for calling me sweet.
At September 20, 2018 at 1:23 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 20, 2018 at 2:23 AM , Anonymous said...: I think that people who do have a severe inferiority complex, such as ThisGirl965 does as you have pointed out Anonymous Karen, just come on this blog to vent their insecurities and jealousies. I had asked her to provide a link to show where Bernadette's alleged mental illness was presented at trial and ThisGirl965 not only could NOT provide such a link, but she went loopy by filling up the blog with her crazy talk. Apparently ThigGirl1965 has no compassion for Kirsten who was viciously and heinously butchered by Bernadette with such a huge knife - yet she has compassion for Bernadette the murderer and she confuses acts of evil with mental illness as if it were that cut and dry! I feel sorry for you ThisGirl965 because you are so full of hate. I hope one day you truly do feel better about yourself, regardless of what you weigh or what you look like - you should work on your "inside" where you are truly UGLY.
At September 20, 2018 at 5:20 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: LMAO
Ohhhhh you people with nothing better to do than insult and point fingers!!!
What a pity.
However I guess when you're around crazy long enough and you continually try to use logic you'll be made out to be the crazy one.
The difference between children who use Google to post links and Wikipedia research and those who were around long enough to remember the actual trial is that unless I decide to obsessively research sources that site news stories of the day it will be a fruitless search that will provide little (if any) to no results of the "proof" you seek.
I don't have the time nor energy to research which local newspaper said what and site that source.
While this story did make bigger headlines back when it occurred not everything that was reported was via the associated press. I am not going to pull actual court records and spend hours searching for "evidence to provide".
I don't need to obsessively "prove" anything.
Be it my innocence against a false accusation or commentary regarding news reports that occurred OVER 30 YEARS AGO.
There were local newspaper stories written about the murder of my family member that incorrectly quoted her sister as saying that the victim might have been pregnant at the time of her murder and other articles stating that no evidence of such a pregancy was found yet if we didn't have the article clippings or go directly to the corporate office of the newspaper reporting on the story I would be hard pressed to provide "evidence" on a site that doesn't even allow me to post proof of email notification to the actual email address associated with the "Thisgirl965" account.
That is sufficient and my final response to these demands of "proof" that I am under no obligation to give.
If anyone searches the internet long enough they will find "irrefutable proof" that Bigfoot exists.
That the sky is actually yellow, and a map to the end of the rainbow where the pot of gold exists.
Providing links isn't "proof" of anything, just like a blog can be written by ANYONE.
Good day to you all at Bellevue.
At September 20, 2018 at 5:27 AM , Anonymous said...: It is interesting that appearances and image still are paramount in Bernadette Protti/Jeannette Tomanka's life. The Suzy Homemaker website she has tries to paint her as the housewife and mother of the year, yet the skeletons in her closet are rattling louder than ever. I'd be interested in what her husband and children think about her background. It can't be easy for them to overlook the fact that she stabbed Kirsten five times in the back with such a large knife, that Sissy just happened to have in the car to chop radishes.
At September 20, 2018 at 5:44 AM , Anonymous said...: There are probably autopsy photos of Kirsten and the deep penetrating wounds that she suffered. Wait long enough and the "Life Hacker" and her fans can see the result of her work then they can stop defending the poor little girl who just couldn't stop herself from stabbing her rival to death.
At September 20, 2018 at 5:58 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: And thank you "anonymous Karen" for proving just how mentally ill and delusional you are.
So.....
Do you make up all of these stories in your own head or do the voices whisper them to you.
I'm done replying to you.
Feel free to continue your delusional stories.
And since you choose to remain "anonymous" I will no longer respond to ANY "anonymous" posters unless I am directly addressed (even then maybe not...) since you've proven just how crazy you are I won't know which of your personalities is chosing to take control of the keyboard and type a response.
Best of luck to you with the voices.
You all should get together to write fan fiction you seem to be good at it!
At September 20, 2018 at 6:05 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: And before the attacks begin on "this comment has been removed by the author", if I notice a typo after I have published my comments I go back and edit it.
Unfortunately the only way to do so is to delete said comment. If there is another way to edit a typo please let me know.
Thx!
😘👍
At September 20, 2018 at 6:11 AM , Anonymous said...: Go on the Contra Costas County Historical Society and there are several pictures of Protti and her family in court. Also there is a report at UC Berkeley entitled Did Straight Pressure Prompt Orinda Murder.
At September 20, 2018 at 12:56 PM , Anonymous said...: The whole concept of sharing links on this blog, is to provide information that is more than just gossip by those individuals who get gratification out of the death of a young girl and come here to vent based on some biased, non-factual movie. Sadly there is little respect for Kirsten, a victim of murder who is no longer here to speak up and set the record straight. That Bernadette the murderer should benefit from her heinous crime is just another sad fact because we've only heard one side.

Bernadette had a good life going at school, being in the Bobbies and she had friends and a social life. Bernadette excelled at 2 things: Coveting and Doing whatever she needed, including murder, to get whatever she wanted because she has NO conscious just like the FBI had stated - NO Conscience.

People like Bernadette who was old enough at the time of the crime to understand that using a huge knife to repeatedly stab someone, would result in grievous injury and death. THIS is WHO Bernadette IS - a monster and monsters like this do not change.

For any individual to be capable of such a heinous murder like Bernadette committed with NO reason, NO immediate threat of danger and NO provocation behind it - other than her own selfish self, with NO Conscience to boot - THAT is one scary individual who is a ticking time bomb.
At September 20, 2018 at 1:29 PM , Anonymous said...: Cont'd - Regarding Mental Health, NO PILL EXISTS That CREATES A Conscience.

It's an insult to individuals who truly do have mental health issues to even be using Mental Health as an EXCUSE, as if that explains Bernadette having murdered Kirsten.

The FBI stated Bernadette had NO REMORSE. Keep in mind that Bernadette spent 6 months living the good life while those around her were falling apart and others being blamed for what she did. It was only AFTER the FBI knew it was Bernadette, ONLY THEN did she write that letter to her parents and ONLY THEN did she get caught because she knew the hammer of the law was coming down on her. Bernadette was acting in her own self interest and nothing more. NO REMORSE.

If you take the time to just imagine, (I know it's really difficult because we are not like Bernadette), to carry on the way she did after committing such a brutal murder of Kirsten - you can't even wrap your head around any one being able to do that at, let alone for 6 months!!

Bernadette committed murder. Bernadette is and always will be a criminal. No amount of religious talk, no amount of muddying the waters, no amount of anything will ever change that FACT. It would not be normal to not be afraid of someone like Bernadette. People have the right to know if their children, or anyone they love is in the midst of a murderer - regardless of who that murderer is.

FACT: This crime was unprovoked and that the FBI stated Bernadette had NO REMORSE.
At September 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM , Anonymous said...: Hello THISGIRL965. It’s Karen - your favourite person :)

Please stop feigning annoyance over who writes under “Anonymous”. It's irrelevant. You are also writing under an Anonymous username, unless your real name is THISGIRL965. I told you what my name is.I have a blog account here and you know what it is, but I can't sign into it....because I was hacked....but I have my suspicions of who it was....a spider was in the corner of my ceiling when I last logged in and I think it's reasonable to assume he was looking over my shoulder with his eight beady eyes...and stole my password...what a little scallywag! What the heck prompted your latest outbursts?(some of which you deleted). They are proof positive that you have anger issues and something is amiss. If you are going to accuse me of making up stories, give examples of what you are talking about. If you are referring to me saying you have a victim complex, I gave you clear examples in a previous comment (i.e.: examples of taking offense where there was nothing to be offended over). Is calling me names an example of the "kind tone" you said you apparently exude in your comments? You've said a number of times that you don't need to justify yourself, but you keep attempting to justify yourself. The latest example is you explaining why you have written and deleted many comments. No one cares about your spelling mistakes. Anyway, it's clear why you deleted them. You wrote and deleted many comments because you are clearly in a tizzy and very hyper. We both know you will write back at some point because I'm just so damn lovable and you can't help yourself. You don't need to prove anything, but you have certainly tried and failed. Please stop going on about the blog. It's obvious you wrote it, so stop beating a dead horse. You are also doing exactly what I wrote in a previous comment (you have been called out for nonsense and can't back up your points so you attempt to shut down the conversation by name calling and repeating something irrelevant) Cheerio.
At September 20, 2018 at 5:05 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi Anonymous,

Just call me Karen :)

Something is definitely amiss with our friend, THISGIRL965. She won't provide you with links or examples because she has none to give and will deviate from the subject by focusing on something irrelevant, or will call you names to shut down the conversation. She seems to lash out at Kirsten because Kirsten represented what she didn't have (judging from what she wrote on the infamous blog) and she hates her for it. She appears to identify with the Bernadette Protti character in the movie, but the Bernadette Protti character never existed. No, I can't imagine how Bernadette carried on the way she did and was flourishing in the months following Kirsten's murder. As you said yourself, Kirsten's murder was brutal. She had two, two foot wounds down her back and down her stomach, she had a wound in her neck and a defensive wound on her arm. Her murder was horrific and bloody, yet Bernadette could block it out of her mind and actually have conversations about it with Kirsten's friends. Thank you for the links you have provided. Is the Berkeley article a good read? You have provided a lot of points in your comments, which Bernadette supporters choose to continually ignore. Our friend above said she came here for an intelligent debate, yet continues to ignore facts that are mentioned and then resorts to name calling.....that is some fine debating skills right there, particularly when you say another person is "hard for you". Why do some people conveniently forget that the FBI said Bernadette only cried for herself and had no regard for her victim? People also conveniently fail to explain how Bernadette was "provoked" to murder. Kirsten was lured out of her house under false pretences and driven to a car-park. Whatever happened in the car-park alarmed Kirsten and she ran from Bernadette's car to a strangers house and Bernadette waited outside for her to come out. Bernadette then tailgated and followed the guy that drove Kirsten home. It was reported that Kirsten was banging furiously on her neighbor's door, so the poor girl was frightened and was then ambushed from behind and stabbed. Where is the evidence of Bernadette being the victim? It is reported that there was a big height difference between the two girls and they were both different builds, so it was never going to be a fair fight.
At September 20, 2018 at 5:29 PM , Anonymous said...: Wow! The anger on Bernadette's face in this sketch!

https://www.cocohistory.org/confpic.php?ID=15083
At September 20, 2018 at 6:14 PM , Anonymous said...: Hello Karen.

Yes, I have to agree that something is seriously amiss with THISGIRL965. Frankly, she just makes no sense in her comparisons, back pedaling and loony, confusing writings - she just wants to argue. She stated that she won't take the time to read the information that is out there, (there are also plenty of informative links on this blog alone), yet she takes the time to clog up this blog with her disrespect and verbal vomit.

I like to read different articles so yes, I think it would be good to read various ones.

Bernadette, from looking at her pics, certainly seemed to be a big/big boned girl to me, add that to her height and it certainly was not not a fair fight especially when one is being ambushed with a huge butcher knife!

It is really heart breaking that any individual would come here to this blog just to disrespect Kirsten. If they do not like Kirsten then they should just move along instead of disrespecting the dead who can not defend themselves any longer - especially when said individuals are too lazy to seek out whatever facts they can. Kirsten is a human being with a family who loves her and such hatred towards Kirsten is beyond cruel and totally senseless. I do not think the Bernadette supporters actually "get it" that Kirsten is at peace now and that their ugly, hate filled posts will not reach Kirsten's ears. It only shows the ugliness of the individual posting such hatred.

Bernadette supporters do not provide links because as you said, there is nothing they can provide that supports their hatred.

Bernadette supporters also fail to acknowledge the IRONY that it was Bernadette who wanted to be a Bobbie, who wanted to become one of the very girls like Kirsten who, suddenly, after brutally murdering Kirsten - these same girls are snobs, bullies, etc... yet Bernadette was willing to kill (and she did), to become one of them! But none of the Bernadette supporters grasp this.
At September 20, 2018 at 11:38 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 20, 2018 at 11:58 PM , Anonymous said...: Every one has made mistakes in their lives - but NOT every one is a heinous, butchering murderer like Bernadette. When Bernadette chose to murder, YES CHOSE, it was no accident, it was not provoked, she was NOT in immediate danger - SHE effected her own life for the rest of her life. Bernadette is at fault here so butter your biscuits with that FACT !
At September 21, 2018 at 2:13 AM , Anonymous said...: @Anonymous,

Did you notice that THISGIRL965 called you a hoe? Hoe is slang for whore.
At September 21, 2018 at 10:28 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: "LMAO @ HOW Bernadette 'supporters' supposedly have "nothing they can provide that supports their hatred".
Yet all I've read throughout this entire blog post is hatred towards Bernadette.
What supports you all hating on a person who has not affected your life personally?
Nothing except obsessing over an old murder case and refusing to let another human being move on with her life and ridiculing that same person for publically admitting her fault and attemping to live a decent life.

As I've mentioned in the past.
I would love the shoe to be on the other foot and then hear how quickly the story changes once an error you made in your youth defines the rest of YOUR life and you not be allowed to move past it."

This comment is a PRIME EXAMPLE of why comments with TYPOS need to be deleted and re-posted.

Yet since my error was pointed out and converted into a CHILDISH accusation stating that I was name calling I re-posted my previous comment with the correction.

It has just been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt how ridiculous the commentators on this thread are.
"No one cares about your typo's" yet a typo is being used to paint a different picture.
Good luck to you all in your petty little lives, holding grudges and I hope you never have to face judgment from your peers with viewpoints similar to your own, lest you feel the wrath.
At September 21, 2018 at 12:07 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: My final comment on this thread will be this.
Ms. Protti was A CHILD when this murder was committed.
16 years old is not 4 years old, however it most definitely is not an adult.
Most childish hopes and dreams that are held on to at that age are looked back upon with adult eyes as ridiculous.

For anyone to insist that the mindset of a 16 year old is the same as that of a person in their 40's and 50's is not only ridiculous but clearly ignorant.

To say no one will ever learn from their mistakes or cannot be rehabilitated from CHILDHOOD actions and errors has a sad outlook and perspective on life, yet I'm the one erroneously being labeled as having "hatred" towards a murder victim.

Don't pretend to know how I feel about anything. If the need is felt to deconstruct the psyche of a stranger there are actual professions that do that. My best advice is go back to school and learn how to get paid for doing so and stop trying to be internet psychotherapists, private investigators, lawyers, judges or whatever other title fits you to justify your holier than though opinions.
At September 21, 2018 at 1:19 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: t September 21, 2018 at 2:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
@Anonymous,

Did you notice that THISGIRL965 called you a hoe? Hoe is slang for whore.

Her opinion means nothing to me. THISGIRL965 is clearly a very angry person with serious issues who has nothing of any importance to say. I'm sure her use of "hoe" was a projection of how she feels about herself as evidenced by her attitude on her. She's pathetic and should seek help.
At September 22, 2018 at 12:13 AM , Anonymous said...: Hello Anonymous, Karen here :)
Thanks for the links.
Was that picture a mug shot or a court picture? She looks pissed off.
Your replies to criticism are funny.
I agree with your point that Bernadette wanted to be exactly like the girls who were branded as snobs after Kirsten’s murder, so what does that say about Bernadette? Why does common sense elude her supporters? I don’t know what people get out of treating Kirsten the way they do. Perhaps they have unresolved emotional pain from their HS days that they are projecting onto Kirsten. It’s sad that the criticism Kirsten gets is generally from grown adults. As you know, Age doesn’t = wisdom or emotional maturity. The latest example is Thisgirl965 who lacks self-awareness and has a victim complex. She keeps reiterating that Bernadette was a child. Yes, Bernadette was young, but she was more that old enough to know better. She lured Kirsten out of her house, stalked her and stabbed her to death. Perhaps thisgirl965 is so lenient on Bernadette because even though she is an adult, she still doesn’t know better herself, so I can’t imagine what she was like as a teenager. Children can and do commit heinous, evil crimes that they should be held accountable for. For example, 25 years ago there was a case in England about two 10 year old boys who lured a 2 year old toddler out of a shopping centre and killed him. They beat and kicked the toddler, they threw bricks at him, they threw paint in his eyes, they stripped him, and they sodomised him with an object and then left him on train tracks where he was cut in half. It was later revealed that the two boys had planned to abduct a toddler to throw in a nearby river and watch him/her drown. They knew they had done wrong, so they tried to hide their involvement by putting the toddler on the train tracks. Have you heard of that case? Thisgirl965 is attempting to convey that her purpose for writing on this blog was to explain that a teenager who commits murder can be rehabilitated. Wouldn’t it have been swell if she made that point without insulting Kirsten, Kirsten’s family, you, me and anyone else who disagreed with her? Why do people find it difficult to believe that Bernadette could ever be a “normal” person? Judging from Bernadette’s behaviour after Kirsten’s murder: washing the knife and returning it to the kitchen, cleaning the car, discussing Kirsten’s murder with Kirsten’s friends (who were trying to find out who the killer was), attending Kirsten’s funeral, the ability to block Kirsten’s murder out of her mind and flourish like nothing happened, watching on as Nancy is accused and seeing Nancy’s pain in Catechism classes, Bernadette was described as her “smiley self” in the months after Kirsten’s murder and she only confessed because she knew she was caught. She was cunning and calculating, teenager or not.
At September 25, 2018 at 2:05 PM , Anonymous said...: There is a book by Carol Anne Davis that is entitled Masking Evil: When Good Men and Women Turn Criminal. There is a chapter in there about Bernadette Protti alias Jeanette Tomanka.
At September 26, 2018 at 12:38 AM , Anonymous said...: TO: "At September 22, 2018 at 12:13 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hello Anonymous, Karen here :)"

Hi Karen. That picture was a sketch drawn of Bernadette during her trial. Yes, I've heard about that case with the 2 boys who killed the toddler. Some people, regardless of age, are just evil - I mean Ted Bundy was a child at one time too!

Bernadette supporters could have a myriad of reasons for supporting her - I personally think that the ones get nasty and are unable to have an adult conversation and/or hear a different side, are definitely immature and some may even have their own issues.

I have never read anything anywhere or saw anything that would indicate that at worst, Kirsten may have had an attitude (not at all unusual for many teens regardless of their social status) -

HOWEVER - it was BERNADETTE who did the STALKING, the LYING (calling Kirsten's mom with the ruse ahead of time about a Bobbies dinner), the LYING IN WAIT (at least a day went by before Bernadette picked Kirsten up), the BACK STABBING WITH A HUGE KNIFE physically butchering Kirsten by surprise like the sneaky, lying coward she is. Yet somehow the supporters think Kirsten was so bad? It makes absolutely NO sense to me how they just don't get it. They will never be able to grasp that irony that Bernadette KILLED to become one of the very girls that the Bernadette Supporters and Bernadette call a Bully, Snob, whatever. So ridiculous I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Bernadette was a little bit older than Kirsten and if I'm not mistaken, Bernadette killed Kirsten less than one month BEFORE Kirsten was to turn 15 (?) I believe.

All of their religious talk is such a sad joke. And whatever the Murdering Bernadette was taught, clearly she mocked it by simply choosing to ignore it and now she tries to use it to escape accountability - she (and others) falsely think that a mere 6 years (which was forced on her, it was NOT voluntary) was enough atonement for such a heinous murder?? As if once Bernadette was set free she is suddenly free of the PERMANENT STAIN Of MURDER?

I don't think Bernadette is so smart, I think she is "dumb as a fox", a sneaky deviant without any remorse /conscious. All that religious talk is just a way to avoid dealing with the REALITY that Bernadette's true colors were exposed and it is something she can never undo.

The stupidity of Bernadette to go on social media with a name change, (as if no one would ever find out it was her), and put herself out there so publicly - is just another example of how it is all about Bernadette! Amazing that Bernadette, her sister or her supporters are enough stupid enough to complain about being exposed!! Bernadette just doesn't care, she is still behaving like she did right after the murder - it's all about her and she acts as if she never did the murder.
At September 26, 2018 at 1:24 AM , Anonymous said...: Cont'd -

Bernadette put herself out on the social media with no regard for her children.

If she cared about her kids she would have stayed away from social media and kept a low-key life for their sake. Now because of her own selfishness, Bernadette is all over the internet even more than she had been for murdering Kirsten. She exposed herself by her own choice to put herself out there thinking that she was so clever no one would know it was her. I feel sorry for her children, to have a mother like Bernadette, a twisted murderer. So sad for them.
At September 26, 2018 at 2:02 AM , Anonymous said...: TO: At September 25, 2018 at 2:05 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a book by Carol Anne Davis that is entitled Masking Evil: When Good Men and Women Turn Criminal. There is a chapter in there about Bernadette Protti alias Jeanette Tomanka.

Hi. If you don't mind, can you share what you learned in that chapter? Thank you either way.
At September 26, 2018 at 8:23 PM , Anonymous said...: Karen = purplehaze
At September 26, 2018 at 10:19 PM , Itsaboutime said...: Purple Haze= Karen= Awesome.
Always like your commentary. It makes this blog sane.
At September 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM , Karen : ) said...: Thank you Itsaboutime,

I changed the user-name of my blog, but my old comments are still under "Purple Haze".

I think Anonymous September 26, 2:02) has added a lot to this blog.

It must be tough for you to read the negative comments. Those with common sense know that Kirsten was not the insufferable bully depicted in the movie.

As Anonymous above wrote about Bernadette supporters: "They will never be able to grasp that irony that Bernadette KILLED to become one of the very girls that the Bernadette Supporters and Bernadette call a Bully, Snob, whatever.
At September 26, 2018 at 11:19 PM , Anonymous said...: Thank you Karen - my gut was telling me that you were Purple Haze. I'm glad that I was able to add to this blog in a positive way.

I feel this blog is important because as long as that movie is out there, (Death of a Cheerleader) and other various sites who blame Kirsten, there needs to be a site such as this one that stands up for the victim and the puts the blame where it Fully Belongs on Bernadette Protti.
At September 26, 2018 at 11:33 PM , Itsaboutime said...: Thank you. It’s deeeply disturbing. I totally agree. Quite ironic and moronic. I was just reading that book that someone mentioned Masking Evil. What a sly little liar Bernadette was and how brutally she stabbed Kirsten. Still hard to imagine. When I saw Kirsten and Bernadette interact it was quite pleasant so I didn’t know there were any issues between them. Bernadette was smart and on the quiet side and Kirsten was bubbly and vivacious. She flitted around like a free spirit. She was easy going. I used to trim her hair and we would laugh at how uneven it was. She had the most gorgeous thick curls. I gave her her last haircut in the picture that’s used when one little curl is coming down longer than the others. She also was part Greek so she had beautiful skin color. She glowed during the summer and of course as a swimmer was always in the sun. Kirsten was immature more than a bully really. At 15, so many kids were awkward and one day one girl was mad at you and another day she would be nice. Kinda how hormones and girls went. The boys made shitty comments about just about everything it seemed like but they are just as insecure if not more. Sad that it’s captured in such a way as it was in the movie. Everyone has to cling to Kirsten as a bully and demonize her. Like Bernadette did everyone a favor by killing her. What a wicked sick world. I saw what the parents went through. I know what my friends and the community went through. What the girls went through that were falsely accused endured. Changed so many lives. I saw one of the accused at our last reunion. She was well which was good. Our friends still talk about Kirsten and we are still in disbelief all these years later. When it happened I could barely sleep. For 6 months. Unless someone was out of town at the time you just didn’t know if they could be the one....... We cried every weekend when we were together. I’m sick when I think what if that happened to my child now. I couldn’t live through it. Well. I am rambling. I still have great pictures f Kirsten and Aimé artwork she made me that I cherish. We post her pics up once in a while on Facebook too. Keep her memory alive.
At September 26, 2018 at 11:49 PM , Itsaboutime said...: I still have great pictures of Kirsten and *her artwork.... not Aimé. Weird typo.
At September 27, 2018 at 5:57 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous.

You're welcome. Your comments are great and you’re funny, too.

There should be at least one blog to counteract the anti-Kirsten nonsense. Isn't it odd that some people are quick to preach forgiveness for Bernadette for murdering Kirsten and they dismiss her horrendous crime by referring to her as a child, yet they are quite happy to vilify Kirsten and debase her character based on what? A movie? The fact she didn't get along with Nancy Kane? The fact that she didn't take kindly to Bernadette luring her out of her house under false pretences? It doesn't make sense to treat a teenage murder victim so disparagingly. Kirsten tried her best to get away from Bernadette, yet people erroneously suggest that she provoked Bernadette? It doesn't matter what kind of a person you are because there will always be people who will think you're a bitch anyway. I have come across other websites with commentators that had a lot of sympathy for Kirsten, which shows there are plenty of people who had the sense not to be swayed by a fictional depiction.
At September 27, 2018 at 6:07 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi itsaboutime,

You're welcome. You weren't rambling. Kirsten's 80's bob style was very cute and you did a good job, considering you weren't a hairdresser. I got the impression that Bernadette started working in the school office to be near Kirsten. The poor girl just didn't have a clue about Bernadette's level of obsession for her. Actually, it appears to have come to light that night in the car-park. I got the impression that Kirsten ran from Bernadette’s car because she discovered just how sickly obsessed Bernadette was with her and it possibly came across as something sexual. Would you mind giving a brief description of what you read in the book (masking evil) when you have the time?

We were all immature at that age. I was probably a lot worse than Kirsten. For example, when I was about 16, I was in Home-Ec class during the end of lunch because I was supposed to prepare notes for something, but being the typical time wasting moron I was, I was procrastinating and decided to spend my time staring out the window. The class was up on the second floor at the back of the school building, so I had a good view of people walking past and I thought of how funny it would be to throw an egg at someone (there were eggs in the school fridge and I took one out and yes, I unfortunately was that cheeky). I saw a teacher that I despised walking alone towards a prefab, which meant that she would have her back to me, so I saw an opportunity and threw an egg at her. I aimed for the back of her head, but was still quite pleased that it hit her on her back. I then ran out of the kitchen up to another floor laughing away like the fool I was. I wasn't caught, but I was suspected because I was seen around the kitchen at that time, but it couldn't be proven. If I was caught I would have been expelled for sure. I'm certainly not proud of that when I look back at it. Just in case someone reading this assumes I was a bully.... wasn't. I didn't treat my teachers very well and the treatment was very much mutual, but I didn't treat other students like that. However, if I had seen a friend walking past the building, I would have thrown an egg, but I would have thrown it at their foot or something, not their head (the same would have been done to me). The behavior of the boys is like something 12 years olds did in my experience. That's an age (16) that boys are sweet talking girls and trying their luck, not insulting the shit out of them. They must have been very intimidated by you girls. It's very sweet that you and others still remember Kirsten fondly. If she was that terrible, you obviously still wouldn't be mourning her. It's sweet that you have kept her art work. Even though it's been over 30 years, I'm sure it doesn't feel like it. I still can't get my head around the fact that Bernadette was able to discuss Kirsten's murder with you and other friends while she watched you cry and mourn Kirsten's loss. That level of deception for a 16 year old to exhibit is frightening and crazy.
At September 27, 2018 at 6:14 PM , Karen : ) said...: I just want to give a shout out to my friend, THISGIRL965 :) You may not be commenting, but I know you're still lurking, you silly scallywag :)
At October 1, 2018 at 9:33 AM , Anonymous said...: It sounds like you were a real stupid bitch.
At October 1, 2018 at 1:24 PM , Karen : ) said...: Sounds like it.
At October 1, 2018 at 8:19 PM , Anonymous said...: TO: At September 26, 2018 at 11:33 PM , Blogger Itsaboutime said...

I am so sorry for you but am very happy that you have such lovely memories of Kirsten.

I have never met either Kirsten or Bernadette. But my heart goes out to Kirsten because Bernadette is quite the evil monster to do what she did then behave the way she did for 6 months (quite a long time, especially considering she was right in the middle of all the emotions around her yet simply was devoid of any emotions herself).

((Hugs))
At October 1, 2018 at 8:22 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: At October 1, 2018 at 9:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
It sounds like you were a real stupid bitch.
________________

Oh My Karen I think Thisgirl is back but using anonymous - can you tell by her anger and nastiness?

I can't wrap my head around people like this girl or Bernadette and I'm glad - who would want to have the mindset of these two?

((Hugs)) to you Karen
At October 1, 2018 at 8:40 PM , Anonymous said...: TO: ItsAboutTime and Karen

Other than a butter knife which they could not get any clear prints off of - was there any talk or any thing mentioned about the butter knife??

Also what I am very curious about and haven't come across any thing about it either way - is did Bernadette have any cuts on either of or both of her hands? I'm very curious about this because people like Bernadette who butcher someone to death usually the knife slips and they often cut themselves, plus the giant size of the knife that Bernadette used might making getting cut even more likely. Not finding any thing on this makes me wonder - did Bernadette also wear gloves???
At October 1, 2018 at 8:48 PM , Itsaboutime said...: Thanks Karen. I don’t think any f s could have imagined that someone like Bernadette actually existed. At that young age, I hadn’t even read about people like that yet. What an eye opener. Your high school stories are hilarious. Bernadette’s level of deception is MIND blowing. If you could have witnessed the lengthy conversations she contributed to in regards to who murdered Kirsten it would send chills up your spine. She really was a wolf in sheep’s clothing as they say.
The book Masking Evil devoted a 9 page chapter to Kirsten’s murder. It mostly recapped what happened. It spoke of her strained relationship with her parents. How they did not give her a lot of attention as she was the youngest of 6 children. Even when she tried to confess to her Mom she said could she talk to Bernadette later as she was tied. That’s why B wrote her a letter. Spoke of the lengths she went to to get her alone which seems so premeditated to me. How she stabbed her 5 times. One slashed one lung. The other the other lung. Lacerated her liver. She slashed her twice in the back and twice in the front and one on her hand as Kirsten was trying to protect herself. Unfortunately the police never checked her Alibi even though her lie detector test was inconclusive ,of course so fortunately the Costas’ brought in a PI who reread the test results to find that she actually had failed some parts. Hmmmm. PI held crack the case with help of FBI. Thank GOD. It spoke about in The California Youths Venture School where she was locked up she even had a boyfriend , though the authorities were alarmed at how angry she became when they fought. She was released after 7 years which was 2 years early but never made parole earlier for good behavior due to the parole boards concern for her lack of remorse and the way she fought wth her BF. Nothing new but always interesting to read another article. It’s a whole book on criminals which is pretty good.
Thank you anonymous for your kind sentiments about Kirsten. Bernadette is an evil monster.
At October 1, 2018 at 9:14 PM , Anonymous said...: This is interesting little read by "US Library of Medicine / Nat'l Institute of Health

"Regardless of age, homicides involving multiple stabbings should be considered sex-related, especially when the victim is female."

LINK:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23756522

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On a side note, I don't think Bernadette is using Jeannette Tomanka anymore, she's been outed for this name so if she changed her name once I think she would do it again.
At October 2, 2018 at 12:39 AM , Anonymous said...: TO: October 1, 2018 at 8:48 PM , Blogger Itsaboutime said...

You're Welcome.

RE: " Bernadette’s level of deception is MIND blowing. If you could have witnessed the lengthy conversations she contributed to in regards to who murdered Kirsten it would send chills up your spine. She really was a wolf in sheep’s clothing as they say. "

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How Bernadette participated in such lengthy conversations and kept up her mask until she had no choice is beyond a normal person's comprehension of such evil.

I totally agree with you about Bernadette being an Evil Monster - I think she lacks a conscious which is why I feel she is just as dangerous now as she was then.

Thank you for sharing what you read in the book about her.
At October 2, 2018 at 12:41 AM , Anonymous said...: TO Itsaboutime

Oops I meant to put the You are Welcome below your comment.

Have you or anyone else noticed any cuts on Bernadette's hands??
At October 2, 2018 at 8:06 PM , Anonymous said...: Someone in Bernadette's family had to help her clean up all the blood in the car and surely would have noticed Bernadette with blood on her especially since someone was waiting up for her because she was driving a car without a driver's license.

Bernadette says she put the knife back into the kitchen but did she really? We have only her word and her words are worthless.

Virginia seemed to be close to Bernadette - she took a risk lying about the knife having been hers that she leaves in the car to cut fruit and vegey's. No one is going to drive around with an 18" knife - just picture a ruler in your mind and then add a half a ruler to that! That is the approximate size of the knife.

Bernadette had no remorse then and I doubt she has any now. When she was locked up they saw how angry of a person Bernadette is - never heard a thing about remorse - just the lack of it. The only thing Bernadette worries about is "appearances" - she's probably still the same angry, shallow person she was back then. The fact her family member(s) might come on this blog and be nasty just goes to show you how screwed up they are. I seriously doubt that Bernadette's poor innocent kids are aware that their mother is a heinous murderer who butchered a child. I just can't see Bernadette allowing her "fake" image as a good person being tarnished in her kid's eyes and NOT because she cares about her own kids' feelings but because Bernadette is all about herself and how she appears.

Bernadette wasn't grateful enough to have a life that she viciously tore away from Kirsten - she had to have poor innocent kids and go online to social media then whine about comments she gets. It certainly doesn't seem like Bernadette has changed at all.
At October 2, 2018 at 11:50 PM , Anonymous said...: Thank goodness that the Costa's had hired a PI and that the FBI got involved - or else Bernadette would have killed another child to keep her secret of having killed Kirste, if she thought someone was on to her.

That fact that no one suspected Bernadette until she got caught is just further proof that she was not bullied because no one even thought it was her! Bernadette only made false claims of being bullied because to her, image was everything, so she could not and would not accept responsibility by telling the truth so she lied.
At October 6, 2018 at 12:06 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: I don't need to use anonymous.
I've used my own screen name any time I have ever post here.
However with the immaturity and fairy tales that are told here I no longer feel the need to respond.
Rest assured if I were going to call anyone a "b!tch" I'd do it as myself.
I don't have to hide like the rest of you cowards who flap their yaps behind anonymous.
I can see you're all about as obsessed with me as you are researching and deconstructing a long buried murder case.
I would however appreciate if you did the opposite of what you do with those d!cks and just keep my name out of your mouths.
Thx!
😘
At October 7, 2018 at 12:22 AM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965 is just like Bernadette No Class and No Empathy - a sad reflection of the worst society has to offer.
At October 7, 2018 at 12:28 AM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965 also made a Freudian slip and has shared with us what she does with her free time, apparently whenever she can - oh my so uncouth she is. So inappropriate to post that info here - shameless.
At October 8, 2018 at 12:41 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,
That’s sweet, thank you.

“Stupid bitch” is as offensive to me as “silly billy”, so it makes no difference to me who said it. Even though I think thisgirl is moronic, I will assume that the comment was written by someone else. I’ve read her latest comment. I agree that she is as devoid of class as she is devoid of self- awareness and emotional maturity, but she is so silly to me at this point that I can’t take anything she writes seriously. Maybe your response to her was true. She also continues to make comments and criticise those who write under Anonymous, yet she is also anonymous unless “thisgirl965” is her real name.

I forgot about the butter knife. What makes people think it was Bernadette’s? No, I doubt it was tested for finger prints as LE appears to have been too ill equipped and incompetent to handle the case. If Kirsten’s parents didn’t hire a private investigator, it looks likely that Bernadette would have gotten away with it. You would think that Bernadette would have been cut after the murder, but so many glaring signs went unnoticed that I wouldn’t be surprised if blatant cuts on bernadettes’ hands went unnoticed too.

“"Regardless of age, homicides involving multiple stabbings should be considered sex-related, especially when the victim is female."

A couple of articles have speculated about Bernadette’s sexuality and whether or not her obsession for Kirsten was sexual. No-one knows for sure and will never know. However, I think her infatuation with Kirsten probably came across as a crush, which is why Kirsten freaked out and ran from the car to a stranger’s house. Bernadette was reported to have been a very intelligent girl and obsessed with appearances, so I don’t understand how she couldn’t foresee how luring someone out of their house under false pretences would come across badly. I believe that she possibly did want to go to a party that night and I believe she was the one with the weed who insisted on stopping off at the church car-park.
At October 8, 2018 at 1:18 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi itsaboutime,

I can understand that you couldn’t imagine someone like Bernadette existed at that age and I’m sure you looked at the world very differently after you found out she murdered Kirsten. It wouldn’t surprise me if people had trust issues after that.

Thanks. I was such a fool in High School and I thought I was very amusing, but I had a lot of laughs and have nice memories.

So Bernadette had long conversations about Kirsten’s murder and kept a straight face? That’s disgusting. Was she trying to direct suspicion towards someone else? Just goes to show the FBI agent was right about Bernadette not giving a damn about Kirsten and only cared about herself. It’s eerie beyond belief that she could keep up this charade for months and actually talk at length with Kirsten’s friends about Kirsten’s murder. Thanks for the recap of the chapter. Jesus...the wounds that Kirsten sustained as a result of Bernadette’s savage attack is sickening. It truly was savage. Thank goodness the Costas’s didn’t give up and hired a private investigator or I’m sure Bernadette would have been quite happy to continue on like nothing happened. She actually said to the FBI that she didn’t think anyone could prove it at that stage. Yeah, I read about Bernadette exhibiting behaviour that concerned the authorities when she was in Ventura and don’t know how it was even possible that she had a boyfriend when she was confined in a girl’s institute. I didn’t know that the parole board were concerned about her lack of remorse when she left the institute. Her lack of remorse was pretty evident when she decided to refer to herself as a “life hacker” and even made a joke about it which alluded to Kirsten’s murder. She is a clot in the artery of humanity. Kirsten was obviously very special to you and I’m sorry about your loss. I understand that you get used to a person not being around, but the grief always remains in some way.
At October 8, 2018 at 1:21 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

"That fact that no one suspected Bernadette until she got caught is just further proof that she was not bullied because no one even thought it was her!"

That's a really good point. It doesn't matter how logical or sensible your points are, some fool will still think Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten.
At October 8, 2018 at 1:44 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I agree with your point about the car. I don’t understand how she cleaned everything up herself and was able to take a walk with her mother that night. Kirsten’s murder was brutal and I’m sure it was very bloody. There would have been blood on Bernadette’s clothes and shoes. Surely there would have been blood on the door handles, the steering wheel, the car seat, the floor of the car. How did she manage to dispose of her clothes, clean the car thoroughly (in the dark), have a shower and then take a walk with her mother? It doesn’t make sense. I suppose she could have disposed of the knife. Judging from her remorseless behaviour after she killed Kirsten, It wouldn’t surprise me if she did put the knife in the kitchen and watched others use it. The sister said she “might” have left the knife in the car when she questioned about it. Surely, that’s simply a “yes” or “no” answer. I’ve said this before, but it looks like she didn’t want to commit to an answer and was deliberately vague. If her children do find out, I’m sure she will paint herself as a victim. I wish them well, though. I obviously don’t know for a fact if her relatives have posted here, but there was one very angry, very emotionally invested comment posted here a few years ago. If you scroll back to the comments in this blog section to November 2015, you can read the comment. What do you think? “She viciously tore away from Kirsten”. That’s exactly it. She viciously tore Kirsten’s life away from her, her family and friends. I think it’s a shame that she didn’t turn the knife on herself.
At October 8, 2018 at 5:55 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi Karen,

I agree with you that the police messed this up. I will read the comment from Nov 2015 and get back to you about it regarding my thoughts on it.

Yes, it should have been a Yes or No answer from her sister regarding the knife having been left in the car - surprising that she was able to get away with that vague response.

I never knew Kirsten or anyone related to this case. I came here because of that movie, Death of a Cheerleader and there was a lot to learn about the truth. I keep coming back to give Kirsten a voice - a voice against those who choose to attack Kirsten.

I never expected everyone to have the common sense, intelligence or empathy to see the truth - there are always going to be those who just choose to be cruel rather than stay away and not put inappropriate comments, but it is still disheartening to know just how stupid and cruel people can be.

It's a fact that Bernadette was found guilty by the law and imprisoned and that she had confessed for the pathetic reason of being jealous and caring more about herself and how she appeared to others than taking the life of another human being. In Bernadette's letter that she wrote to her parent ONLY AFTER the FBI was on to her, she said she couldn't kill herself. That comment of hers makes no sense because she had no problem with killing Kirsten in such a heinous way.

The intensity of thisgirl965 makes me wonder if she knows Bernadette?? She has such a caustic attitude and her comments are as filthy as they are worthless.
At October 8, 2018 at 6:04 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: At October 6, 2015 at 1:34 PM , Blogger Bernadette Protti new ID revealed said...
Here's the link Jeannette or Virginia or Dianna lol we know it's one of you all

www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=105313&db=Cleveland

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Bernadette also went by the name of
Jeannette Butler ?
At October 8, 2018 at 6:20 PM , Anonymous said...: Wow Karen! I just read that post from Nov 2015 and YES it sounds like a family member = talk about anger and a caustic attitude!! Truly sick family going on there.
Some of the comments really caught my eye as being quite revealing but I don't think she realized it when she wrote it! Sounds like she is fed up with having a murderer for a sister! Here's the parts I am referring to:

November 10, 2015 at 3:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

" I guess you must have the arrogance, the presumption, the kind of inner certainty that drives sociopaths of your sort!"

"You're nothing but a sad, obsessive, petty, vindictive, self-righteous individual"

"You have the deluded insolence of believing that you're actually helping people by doing this, when in fact all you accomplish is contribute to the endless stream of senseless cacophony that a part of the web is known for, that very part of the web you come from, that marshy, sultry web where everyone is «entitled to their opinions», basically, a virtual mass of opinionated, entitled, profoundly egotistical (and completely oblivious to the fact) individuals. "

" Yes, that's exactly right, you are virtually as sick, as deranged, as potentially violent and dangerous as Bernadette herself,.."

" I wish you never bring children to this earth, I sincerely wish no child will ever have to suffer the burden of the twisted motherhood you would inevitably provide. And if you do, I wish your children will be strong and intelligent enough to disavow your sick, destructive, immoral education."
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To me it totally sounds like Virginia is absolutely repulsed by Bernadette and expresses her anger and her fears! Pay attention to the part about having children - that she is ticked to no end that Bernadette had kids! Whoa!! Virginia is as angry and nasty as thisgirl965 don't you think?
At October 9, 2018 at 1:11 AM , Anonymous said...: P.S. I doubt that individuals who have the mindset to say that Bernadette is being treated unfairly, has served her time, this crime was so long ago, blah, blah, blah - have chosen to conveniently ignore this FACT: This case of the Heinous Murder committed by Bernadette Protti is still being aired and discussed on national t.v. in various true crime shows to this day.
At October 10, 2018 at 1:02 AM , Anonymous said...: Audio about this case called- "Episode 58: With Friends Like These: Chapter 1: Kirsten Costas
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Sep 4, 2017
Our new series "With Friends Like These" I detail cases where friends turn upon friends - and become deadly. The first is a case of high school jealousy. Kirsten Costas is attacked by a classmate in Orinda, California."

Read more at http://www.onceuponacrime.libsyn.com/category/true%20crime%20/page/2/size/25#ebP7gEcUeOtSj4ZJ.99

http://www.onceuponacrime.libsyn.com/category/true%20crime%20/page/2/size/25
At October 10, 2018 at 10:35 PM , Anonymous said...: I've seen very little information to read about what kind of home life Bernadette had, other than her mother being, to put it politely, "very religious"; that she was the youngest of 6 kids and although not rich, they were far from poor ; Bernadette was embarassed of having what she considered "old" parents and she coveted the nicer homes and decor of her friends, etc.

Bernadette seemed to do alright for herself in school, better than a lot of kids, in my opinion. So, it's hard to understand Bernadette and how ungrateful she is. I am just curious if anyone knows anything about her or her family that may or may not have contributed to Bernadette becoming the Insecure, Vile, Murdering Monster that she came to be.

If she had previous Mental Health issues, and I am not criticizing this because I don't like to shame anyone for something they have no control over - then how come it was not an issue at her trial?? Did she ever receive any medication or therapy while she was incarcerated? It would be interesting to learn about these things, much the same way as reading about Ted Bundy or any other vile murderer because I think they are evil.
At October 11, 2018 at 11:00 AM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965 is one sick puppy. There was an incident where she severely beat up an elderly lady in the street just to steal her shoes and when the shoes didn't fit she attacked the elderly lady again and sexually assaulted her with her own shoes.
At October 11, 2018 at 3:02 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: At October 11, 2018 at 11:00 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
THISGIRL965 is one sick puppy. There was an incident where she severely beat up an elderly lady in the street just to steal her shoes and when the shoes didn't fit she attacked the elderly lady again and sexually assaulted her with her own shoes.
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What? Oh my God - how disgusting and cruel!! How do you know this happened?
At October 11, 2018 at 5:11 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I think Anonymous is pulling your leg.

The only mental health issue (if you would call it that) that has been made public is Bernadette's jealously issues, which her father commented on.

I don't think thisgirl knows Bernadette. She is just a childish woman who identifies with her. She defends Bernadette, but judging from her blog it doesn't look like Bernadette would have associated with someone like her.

Yes, Bernadette only told her mother when she knew she was caught. Jeannette Butler was Bernadette's name before she got married.

I was very surprised that Virginia wasn't questioned at length either. The case was so badly mishandled from LE to the forensics to the prosecutor. I think LE deserved a good hard kick up the arse for their utter incompetence.

That's an interesting take you have on the angry comment. I didn't quite see it that way myself, but I think your perspective is interesting. Whoever wrote the comment was very angry indeed. It seems too personally invested to be written by a stranger. I don't know if it was Virginia, Bernadette's other sisters, or Bernadette herself.
Maybe you are not implying this, but thisgirl is not Virginia or any family member.

Kirsten's murder still generates interest because it was so horrific.

Thank you for the links. I haven't looked at them yet, but I will.
At October 11, 2018 at 6:44 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi Karen. :)

I'd rather someone be pulling my leg than it be true what the other anonymous posted.

No, you are right, I don't think that thisgirl965 is Virginia or Bernadette - I think that she's just some filthy troll with nothing to say.

As for the angry comments I took from the Nov 2015 post - yes I do lean towards that being Virginia. There is just such an overwhelming amount of anger and emotions in those comments.

The part about the --> ""You have the deluded insolence of believing that you're actually helping people by doing this, when in fact all you accomplish is contribute to the endless stream of senseless cacophony that a part of the web is known for,..." --- I think this part speaks of anger that Bernadette put herself out there on the web taking more of a chance at being exposed and Virginia & their family having to deal with even more rightful dislike of Bernadette.

You're welcome for the links. They are actually audio and I found them interesting to listen to and I love the comments of common sense that the true crime podcast person speaking makes.
At October 12, 2018 at 8:18 PM , Anonymous said...: The link below talks about a case that is /was 47 years old, (the video is dated 2012), about a young girl who killed someone. That murderer grew up and was teaching at a high school. Understandably, people were very frightened and upset and she was fired.

The point is - it does NOT matter how long ago a murder happened. Once a Murderer, ALWAYS a Murderer and normal people do NOT want to be around a murderer. The victim's family NEVER gets over having to lose a loved one to a heinous, senseless crime by an Evil Monster.

There really needs to be a Registry for Murderers. They ought not to be able to walk around and hide who they really are and what evil they had done. NO DECENT HUMAN BEING WANTS TO BE AROUND A MURDERER - PERIOD!! Especially a Remorseless one like Bernadette!

https://youtu.be/O-r4XIrm2Wc
At October 14, 2018 at 12:55 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
At October 14, 2018 at 11:57 PM , Anonymous said...: TO: October 14, 2018 at 12:55 AM , THISGIRL965

A tiger doesn't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep. Carry on it effects no one. ;)
At October 15, 2018 at 4:57 PM , Karen : ) said...: THISGIRL965, you keep coming back like a recurring venereal disease, which judging from your dick talk is something I'm sure you're well acquainted with.
At October 15, 2018 at 4:59 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I couldn’t open one of the links. Was that a link to her name change?

I listened to the other link. I agreed with her points about the knife and the victim blaming, but everything else was a rehash of articles, I thought. What did you like about it? It was my understanding that Kirsten didn't know the guy who drove her home that night. It's a shame that Nancy felt ostracised because of her choice to wear black. I don't think that could have been avoided. I went to high school in the early to mid 00's on the other side of the world from Orinda and people who wore black were considered weird too. Anyone who dresses in a way not considered the norm in high school will unfortunately be thought of as weird. It's a shame that Nancy and Kirsten antagonised each other, but both would have grown out of it.
At October 15, 2018 at 5:04 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

That's interesting that the teacher's past was discovered. I wonder how that happened. What a disturbing murder she was involved in. I agree there should be a register for murderers.
At October 15, 2018 at 7:05 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
At October 15, 2018 at 11:15 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: t October 15, 2018 at 4:59 PM , Blogger Karen : )

Hi Karen. If the link you couldn't open was in the same comment as the one you listened to the audio in, it was the same thing - the audio. (I just thought that link would take you straight to it is all.) Is that the link you're referring to?

Yes it was a rehash mostly - I always like hearing that not everyone buys the BS that Bernadette tried to spin. ;)

I thought that the man who drove her home was just some random person too. I can't find anything at the moment that says otherwise.

https://chslapuma.com/lifestyle/2014/10/14/murder-still-haunts-moraga-resident/

Yes I agree that it was a shame how kids got picked on for dressing differently. I also think they would have grown out of it. When Nancy spoke about Kirsten on the true crime channel, she just told it like it was, and I didn't detect any ongoing negativity at all. Honestly, kids can get picked on for no reason too. Which is why Bernadette was so ungrateful - she never had enough/so jealous and did not appreciate how fortunate she was. Just remember how quickly Bernadette didn't care about her close friend (who even stood up for her during her trial to others), Bernadette did not appreciate or deserve her at all & she should have dropped Bernadette like a hot potato and stayed clear of Bernadette, she wasn't worth it at all.
At October 15, 2018 at 11:19 PM , Anonymous said...: Karen - if the link you couldn't open was the one about the name change, I got it off of this blog. ;) I was able to view it.

To me, Bernadette was the one to Bully Kirsten - she didn't get what she want and she killed her. :(
At October 23, 2018 at 3:28 AM , Anonymous said...: TO Purple Haze and ItsAboutTime

Instead of people defending Bernadette and attacking Kirsten, I think it would be a really good thing if Bernadette would one day just stop being selfish and thinking about herself and just finally tell the truth about what really happened that night:

Why did she lure Kirsten out on false pretenses?

What really happened in the car that night that upset Kirsten?

Why did she have that huge knife in the car with her?

WHO helped her clean the car and get rid of all her clothing and other evidence to the point that allegedly no one in her family had a clue that Bernadette was the murderer??

Why did she let innocent girls take the blame for 6 months?

I doubt someone like Bernadette would ever find the DECENCY to come forward and SPEAK THE TRUTH so that Kirsten's family would finally know and also for those who personally knew Kirsten and loves Kirsten.

I think Bernadette and her sister just make it worst when they are snotty and feel as if Bernadette owes no one. Bernadette does owe it to speak the truth and lose the attitude. It just makes her more hated when her and her sister have a pissy attitude.

It would take a lot of soul searching, humility and Remorse. Bernadette needs to Own It in an honest way, not a self serving one. Kirsten's family and those who love and knew her deserve the truth.
At October 23, 2018 at 4:04 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

Referring to your previous comment, I got the impression from other sources that the conflict between Nancy and Kirsten was not one sided. Nancy should have been left alone if she wanted to dress in a certain way, but I think she should have left Kirsten alone too. I think they both would have grown out of it, like most people do. Perhaps they would have even laughed about it at a reunion.

Bernadette will never tell the truth about what happened that night. I'm sure it's something she will take to her grave. You have brought up logical points. There is just no rational reason why the large knife was in the car. How did Bernadette manage to clean up her car so quickly and have a shower before taking a walk with her mother the night she killed Kirsten? How did she manage to clean the car so quickly and thoroughly in the dark? A lot of things don’t make sense about the case, which also continues to highlight how utterly incompetent LE were. I read somewhere that Lifetime has made/or is in the process of making a new “death of a cheerleader” movie. Unfortunately, it will be based on Randal Sullivan's article and script like its predecessor, so Kirsten is going be vilified all over again. I’ve read the synopsis for the movie and I get the impression she is not going to come across well. For those who delight in the prospect of Kirsten being vilified again, this movie is also going to draw undue attention to Bernadette, so both Kirsten and Bernadette are going to be impacted negatively.

I have brought this up so many times, but it reminds me that Bernadette couldn't possibly have remorse. There was a question on Bernadette's FB page asking her what lifehacker meant to her and before she gave a mundane answer, she posted a winky smiley emoji which alluded to Kirsten's murder. A couple of people picked up on that. One of her fans thought it was quite amusing. I don't know if it's still visible on her FB page.
At October 24, 2018 at 5:34 PM , Anonymous said...: Will Jeanette be exposed again and will this hurt her teenaged daughter if people in her high school found out.
At October 25, 2018 at 5:04 AM , Anonymous said...: Purple Haze,

I agree, and realize Bernadette will never speak up about the truth. Her lack of doing so is what makes her even worse of a person - NO REMORSE.

So sad to hear they're going to do a remake of the movie based on Randall Sullivan's article - honestly, what is the point of that? Unless they want to make a more accurate movie based on the real facts of what actually happened, I can't understand why they would even bother. I wish someone else would remake the movie based on the real facts and just tell the truth as it is known and able to be verified.

I totally agree with you regarding Kirsten and Nancy, they would have outgrown it. Wouldn't surprise me if Kirsten had not been murdered that her and Nancy could have had a whole different relationship at some point while still in high school. Sometimes what matters one year doesn't matter the next.

I saw Bernadette's life hacker reply at one time - she's a coward. Bernadette will always be a coward, which is not big surprise considering the fact that she ambushed Kirsten with that huge knife, stabbing her in the back with it (among other places on poor Kirsten's body). As for Bernadette's fans - they're as creepy and sick as Bernadette - most likely "Murder Groupies".

If they do the remake of the movie and if it effects Bernadette negatively all I can say about her is that she will reap what she sowed.
At October 28, 2018 at 7:10 PM , Anonymous said...: Did anyone ever think Bernadette had weed that night and it was probably Bernadette's sister that got it for her.
At October 28, 2018 at 7:37 PM , Itsaboutime said...: I don’t think anyone had weed and it was just a BS thing Bernadette made up to make Kirsten look bad. How did someone hear that they were remaking the movie? Did you read that somewhere? Kirsten did not know the man who drove her home but he had kids around our age that went to our high school, Miramonte.
At October 28, 2018 at 11:49 PM , Anonymous said...: I also think Bernadette lied about the weed. She lied about so much.
At October 30, 2018 at 1:38 PM , Anonymous said...: Kelly Martin who played Bernadette?Jeannette in the movie is going to play an FBI agent in the remake. When the movie comes out one of the tabloids or People magazine will probably do a "Where Are They Now?" segment on the murderer so Bernadette Protti/Jeannette Tomanka might get another 15 minutes of fame.
At October 30, 2018 at 11:48 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: "At October 30, 2018 at 1:38 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kelly Martin who played Bernadette?Jeannette in the movie is going to play an FBI agent in the remake. When the movie comes out one of the tabloids or People magazine will probably do a "Where Are They Now?" segment on the murderer so Bernadette Protti/Jeannette Tomanka might get another 15 minutes of fame."
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Hi, Sorry but I don't quite understand your comment about "Jeannette in the movie is going to play an FBI agent in the remake".

What are you saying? FBI Agent?? What??? If it is going to be a, where are they now, then it won't be a remake of the old movie (?) Not quite clear your comment.

Where are you getting this info from?

Thank you.
At October 30, 2018 at 11:53 PM , Anonymous said...: The girl who played Jeannette/Bernadette in the first movie is playing an FBI agent in the second movie.
At November 1, 2018 at 3:28 AM , Anonymous said...: The impact of a remake will be huge. I have it from the horse's mouth that one of the students is involved so that should hopefully be more factual.
At November 1, 2018 at 3:39 AM , Anonymous said...: It's not going to be factual if it's based on Randall Sullivan's Rolling stone piece and script. It's going to be a one-sided biased piece of shit. I suppose the student involved is Nancy or the other aggrieved student in the deadliest decade episode. The impact will be huge on who? For Kirsten's family for further shitting on her name? For Jeannette/Bernadette's family for drawing attention to Bernadette and the negative repercussions it could have on her teenage daughter?
At November 1, 2018 at 4:03 AM , Anonymous said...: Why so aggressive? Nancy suffered tremendously through all this. The hugest impact will be the salt on wounds of the Costas family and yes her children. This could turn them into disfunctional adults and do we need that? I am on the Kirsten's side, before you accuse me of being Bernadette, and had her family endorsed this film I would be behind it. Anyone else involved is seeking to profit and sensationalise.
At November 1, 2018 at 4:18 AM , Anonymous said...: Obviously you are not Bernadette. I doubt she would be enthusiastic about a movie that is going to draw attention to her again. Sorry if it was aggressive to call the remake for what it is. If it's based on Randall Sullivan's article it's not going to be factual and that is a fact. I feel sorry for Nancy, but she obviously wasn't pro Kirsten, which would add to the one-sided bias of the movie. I've never seen her acknowledge that she acted like a clown too.
At November 1, 2018 at 4:24 AM , Anonymous said...: The movie may not get any attention at all.
At November 1, 2018 at 4:41 AM , Anonymous said...: She did admit to the hostility and I agree that she behaved in a way that was deemed suspicious. I very much doubt if it's based on Randall Sullivan's piece as that's been done. As a mother my heart goes out to her parents, losing my child would have destroyed me.
At November 1, 2018 at 4:59 AM , Anonymous said...: I read that the movie will indeed be based on Randall's article. Really. I agree with your comment about Nancy. It's sad to think about the suffering the Costses endured. I really don't know how parents can manage to function after a tragedy like that, but if they have other children they have to find a way for the sake of their other children. As much as I don't care if Bernadette suffers, I wouldn't wish it on her child. If you heard something from the horses mouth, does that mean you know what former student will be involved? I've never seen Kirsten's friends or objective former students interviewed in any documentaries, so I can't help but assume this will be the case for the remake.
At November 1, 2018 at 5:25 AM , Anonymous said...: I'm not close to the said person and I promised to be discreet but Randall Sullivan is pond life as he was so biased. I believe the atmosphere at Miramonte was toxic and pressured, yes, that could have contributed to low self esteem but it wouldn't have turned a normal kid into a killer. Systematic violent bullying perhaps might but there was no evidence of that, just cliquey girls with big egos, she should have had more pride and walked away from people that didn't want her in their group.
At November 1, 2018 at 7:47 AM , Anonymous said...: PS Are you based in the US? I'm in London and a lot of information is nor accessible to us.
At November 4, 2018 at 10:18 PM , Anonymous said...: https://deadline.com/2018/10/lifetime-death-of-a-cheerleader-remake-victoria-gotti-my-fathers-daughter-1202475841/

"Inspired by Randall Sullivan’s Rolling Stone article about the real-life murder of a popular, affluent and beautiful Northern California high school cheerleader at the hand of a classmate, Death of a Cheerleader stars Aubrey Peeples as Bridget Moretti, a shy outsider from a lower middle-class background who aspires to be beautiful, popular and perfect in everything. She believes that her key to all of this would be the rich and popular Kelly Locke (Sarah Dugdale), who is the leader of the school’s most prestigious clique. When Bridget tries to develop a friendship with Kelly, things don’t go as planned as she gets rejected. It leaves her humiliated and fuels a jealous rage that will lead to murder.

Martin starred alongside Tori Spelling in the original, and returns to play the FBI agent who cracks the case.

Death of a Cheerleader is produced by Just Singer Entertainment and Reunion Pacific Entertainment. Executive producers are Matthew O’Connor, Paddy Bickerton, Steve White and Sheri Singer. Paul Shapiro directs the script written by Caitlin D. Fryers."
At November 4, 2018 at 10:22 PM , Anonymous said...: https://meaww.com/lifetime-victoria-gotti-my-fathers-daughter-death-of-a-cheerleader-2019

"'Death of a Cheerleader' is inspired by Randall Sullivan's Rolling Stone article about the real-life murder of a popular high school cheerleader by her classmate. It stars Aubrey Peeples as Bridget Moretti, who is a shy outsider from a lower middle-class background. She aspires more from her life, to be beautiful, popular and perfect in everything which drives her to befriend the rich and pretty girl in high school, Kelly Locke played by Sarah Dugdale. However, Locke rejects her friendship and the humiliation from it fills Bridget with rage, which will lead to murder. 'Death of a Cheerleader' explores the events leading up to and after the shocking crime that took place in the upper-middle class community. Kellie Martin, who starred alongside Tori Spelling in the original movie, plays the role of an FBI agent who cracks the case.

'Death of a Cheerleader is produced by Just Singer Entertainment and Reunion Pacific Entertainment. The Executive producers are Matthew O’Connor, Paddy Bickerton, Steve White and Sheri Singer and Paul Shapiro has directed from a script written by Caitlin D. Fryers. "
At November 4, 2018 at 10:28 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi. I just posted the 2 links above, they pretty much say the same thing. Sadly, it also won't be telling an unbiased version as it is following Sullivan's biased lead. :(

I honestly do not see the point in remaking it. I agree that it will be another inaccurate piece of shit for a movie full of bias. I don't know how that Randall guy can live with himself hurting Kirsten's reputation (way too many people believe the BS in the movie) - I guess he relates so much to "Bernadette" because Randall does not seem to have a conscience either!
At November 5, 2018 at 12:38 AM , Anonymous said...: It is pointless to regurgitate the original movie. As I said before; unless someone is subjected to violence, murder is not justified. Anyone who thinks Bernadette was right in stabbing Kirsten 5 times then they are also unhinged. Interestingly, when I expressed this to the former student who is involved, she ceased contact, that sadly must mean it will be pro Bernadette, let's see. I still feel sad for her kids as they are innocents in all this and could destroy them. That is the only reason I feel this should be left alone, she hasn't re-offended, she would have done so by now if the tendencies were still there. I'm not on her side, just think it brings all that heartbreak to the surface for Kirsten's family for the sake of entertainment.
At November 5, 2018 at 2:23 AM , Anonymous said...: Thanks for the comments. Much appreciated. What a shame the movie is going to be another biased s*** show. You come across like a nice objective person, so it's a shame that the former student ceased contact over a difference in opinion. I'm sorry, but the student would be at least 50 and I would expect better from him/her. It sounds like this person needs therapy to exorcise their demons from high school. So.. I'm assuming this person was a friend of Bernadette's, or was treated badly in high school and is projecting their inferior feelings onto Kirsten. I'm sorry if the student is still damaged from high school. I'm not expecting you to say who the student is as I understand you must keep the identity private, but I can't imagine that it's Nancy. Surely Nancy wouldn't be annoyed about your opinion of Bernadette, considering Nancy had alcohol problems and was involved in abusive relationships as a result of the trauma of being accused of murder, which Bernadette is to blame for. Bernadette watched as Nancy and someone else were blamed and harassed. If the Costses didn't hire a PI, it looks like Bernadette would have gotten away with it and Nancy would have been blamed to this day. Bernadette's children don't deserve to suffer. It's possible they won't be aware of the movie at all.
At November 5, 2018 at 3:52 AM , Anonymous said...: Do you have any of Bernadette's photos that have been removed from the web? There was talk of her sister in law's Facebook posts. BTW I'm convinced the Jeanette Facebook page is not her. I believe someone set it up to create a stir. If it was her she would have deleted it.
At November 5, 2018 at 7:59 PM , Anonymous said...: If Virginia truly rode around using a humongous 18" knife to cut mere vegetables - then should we really be surprised that Bernadette did what she did to Kirsten with it? That is one dangerous, messed up in a scary way family!
At November 5, 2018 at 8:02 PM , Anonymous said...: Isn't Bernadette the one that should have thought about having kids BEFORE having them? Mind boggling how a MURDERER feels that she is entitled to even have children - as if she deserves them! All she's going to do is mess up their life sooner or later. Truth always comes out.
At November 6, 2018 at 12:26 AM , Anonymous said...: She should have thought about it but clearly didn't and these kids are now vulnerable. Yes the knife story was bizarre to say the least.
At November 6, 2018 at 12:46 AM , Anonymous said...: I don't have any photos of Bernadette and I don't know anything about her sister in law. Are you looking for photos from the time she was arrested or adult photos? If the Facebook page was created to cause a stir, why would the person delete the comments. Surely the negative comments would be entertaining to someone creating a stir. I think it's either her or a member of her family. It was a stupid thing to set up in the first place, much like the blog.
At November 6, 2018 at 12:51 AM , Anonymous said...: As you are English, did you watch England v South Africa in the Autumn internationals? England did enough to get the win in the end. England v New Zealand should be good. It would be better of course if England didn't have so many injuries to their first choice team.
At November 6, 2018 at 2:30 AM , Anonymous said...: The comments were probably deleted to make it look authentic. I did not watch the England SA game, not keen on sport tbh. Has anyone got news on the fallout after her exposure?
At November 6, 2018 at 10:09 PM , Anonymous said...: If you don't mind me asking........how did you come to know about the former students existence? I know you're not the type to pour over a Miramonte year book and randomly contact people.
At November 7, 2018 at 12:55 AM , Anonymous said...: I write as a hobby and am working on something relevant when a mutual acquaintance put me in touch with her.
At November 8, 2018 at 4:52 AM , Anonymous said...: That's interesting that you're a writer. Have you done much research on this case and what do you think about this case? Did your aquaintance write about this case? Was the former student mentioned in the rolling stone article (plenty of them were). Sorry for all the questions.
At November 8, 2018 at 6:05 AM , Anonymous said...: Hi, I have not written anything at all about this case but it has inspired me to write a piece of fiction about Bernadette/Jeannette (not in her favour). Can't say more than that. Yes the girl was mentioned but not in great depth. This is the most bizarre case I have ever encountered in the sense that the outcome contradicted the evidence. I often wonder what if Bernadette had stayed in St Perpetua and not moved to Miramonte. Life would have been so different for all concerned. Her father apparently died heartbroken, her mother I think is back in Orinda.
At November 8, 2018 at 6:35 AM , Anonymous said...: PS My acquaintance was a former Miramonte student but was friends with neither Bernadette or Kirsten. I don't want to betray confidences as there is too much at stake, I am intrigued to know whether Bernadette's kids or community know the truth now.
At November 8, 2018 at 6:55 AM , Anonymous said...: Hi. Thank you. Fair enough. It's a shame she didn't like what you said about being unhinged, which gives the impression she identifies with Bernadette in some way. It's a shame Bernadette didn't just go to the Catholic school. It's sad to think of the life that Kirsten missed because of that. I don't think Bernadette was well and I think something sinister was bubbling beneath the surface, so it's possible someone else could have ended up seriously hurt or killed. I'm sorry for Bernadette's parents. I know it's not her parents fault, but I wouldn't be able to live in Orinda (a small little town) if Bernadette was my daughter. Was her father heart broken because of what Bernadette did? I don't know if people are aware in Bernadette's community. When it was discovered that Jeanette was Bernadette, she got a lot of harassment (phone calls). If someone created a FB page to mess with Bernadette, wouldn't they write more controversial things, otherwise how are they getting to Bernadette? Apart from a few eyebrow raising comments, her FB, blog and twitter are very generic. What do you think happened the night Bernadette killed Kirsten?
At November 8, 2018 at 7:47 AM , Anonymous said...: I have no idea but it's very mysterious. I can't understand why Kirsten waited home to be picked up when all her friends told her there was no Bobbie's dinner! Bernadette's casual attire doesn't add up, a party requires making an effort. The usual questions that have been exhausted time and again. Something major happened that night but it was all so simplified in court. Bernadette was /is supposed to be intelligent yet she pursued a friendship from someone who clearly didn't like her. The documentary Deadly delinquents stated that they were friends but they couldn't have been as Kirsten's parents didn't know who she was until the arrest. I would like to know whether Bernadette had to move again and what impact it had on her marriage. Did he really not know about her past when they married?
At November 8, 2018 at 8:00 AM , Anonymous said...: Sorry missed something out. Her parents were indeed devastated by what she did. Re the facebook page; It's simply keeping the fires burning and inciting hate towards her. If it was her she would have closed it down, she's too clued up to be so flippant. People have mentioned Kirsten's brother giving interviews but I find that hard to believe.
At November 8, 2018 at 9:23 AM , Anonymous said...: Bernadette or Jeannette's parents must be very old now. It will be interesting if they list her name in their obituary.
At November 9, 2018 at 12:45 AM , Anonymous said...: I don't believe they had one for the father probably because of her. The documentary Deadly delinquents stated that her and Kirsten were friends but they couldn't have been as Kirsten's parents didn't know who she was until the arrest. I would like to know whether Bernadette had to move again and what impact it had on her marriage. Did he really not know about her past when they married?
At November 9, 2018 at 12:54 AM , Anonymous said...: Apparently he didn't know about Jeanette's past. When it came to light that Jeannette = Bernadette, the community didn't know. The picture of Jeanette's "handsome husband" floating around isn't him at all. I wonder is it a thing to google the parents of your children's friends? If so, I'm sure Jeanette's murderous past is known by some in her community.
At November 9, 2018 at 2:40 AM , Anonymous said...: In this day and age I would google my child's friends' parents. I thought her husband was the bearded guy, the picture is on all his profiles, it must be him. I really want to know what's become of her since being exposed.
At November 9, 2018 at 4:15 AM , Anonymous said...: The bearded gut isn't him. Honestly. Just like the Fb page, blog and other social media sites, the picture was used to throw people off. Due to the interest in this case, I'm sure Mr Tomanka would not put his picture out there. Jeannette appears to be living a quiet life.
At November 10, 2018 at 12:53 AM , Anonymous said...: TO: At November 8, 2018 at 6:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hi. Thank you. Fair enough. It's a shame she didn't like what you said about being unhinged, which gives the impression she identifies with Bernadette in some way.

Can you please clarify who you are pointing the finger at when you say "she" who are you talking about? Can you copy and paste your answer here so it is clear? Thank you. I did not see anyone make any such comment so what and who are you talking about??
At November 10, 2018 at 12:57 AM , Anonymous said...: Also to: At November 8, 2018 at 6:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hi. Thank you. Fair enough. It's a shame she didn't like what you said about being unhinged, which gives the impression she identifies with Bernadette in some way. It's a shame Bernadette didn't just go to the Catho.."

I do not get a good vibe from you at all. I sense that you are dishonest and misleading. I think that anyone who talks to you should be careful - you are deceitful but you have not fooled me.
At November 10, 2018 at 1:01 AM , Anonymous said...: Ugh it is late and I am very tired the person I don't trust is the one who is claiming to be the writer. Sorry for the confusion.
At November 10, 2018 at 3:39 AM , Anonymous said...: I'm not pointing the finger. The "she" in my comment is the former Miramonte student who is involved in an updated biased one sided version of Death of a Cheerleader. English anonymous has a mutual acquaintance with the former student
At November 10, 2018 at 3:44 AM , Anonymous said...: Why do you not trust English anonymous? Who do you think it really is? I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I'm interested in reading your comments too.
At November 12, 2018 at 1:35 AM , Anonymous said...: I wondered when the bitching would start. This is not a serious forum just a chance for frustrated people with no lives to start attacking one another. I am am the English writer. Who do you really think I am? Bernadette? Her sister? I had hoped to get some deeper insight into this sad story but it seems that a war has broken out. I'm not misleading and neither will I justify myself to your righteousness, I will try and find a more intelligent source, I left the school playground years ago!
At November 12, 2018 at 2:37 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous.

I wrote you a comment or two last week and we were civil. What a shame that you are criticising everyone that writes here just because someone disagrees with you. Who cares if someone else is questioning you? You know what would prove them wrong? Not getting so defensive. However, I've been accused of being aggressive and defensive when it wasn't my intention at all, so maybe you don't mean to come across that way. I'm interested in reading your comments about why my opinions on this barely active blog about Bernadette's murder of Kirsten being evil and heinous equates to " having a frustrated life". Just in case you misinterpret my comment as argumentative, that's not the case. I'm not annoyed with you and I'm not arguing with you. OK? Alright then.
At November 12, 2018 at 3:01 AM , Anonymous said...: I was not referring to the actual blog subject but the nature of some people, I shouldn't generalise. I have noticed certain past threads on this blog consist of people being quite catty and I don't have time for that. I had hoped to exchange information with like minded people for my project and I honestly don't have time to squabble. Best wishes but I'm done here.
At November 12, 2018 at 3:09 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

It generally gets "catty" when people come here to criticise, but that's not the case for your comments. Good luck with your project. Best wishes to you.
At November 12, 2018 at 5:41 AM , Anonymous said...: Her husband Gary Tomanka must try to hide too. There is no picture or website at Tarrant County Community College. Maybe he has dirty background too.
At November 12, 2018 at 6:26 AM , Anonymous said...: Gary Tomanka is a sexy beast and married to a beauty.
At November 12, 2018 at 6:29 AM , Anonymous said...: Gary is innocent man and very good man.
At November 12, 2018 at 2:04 PM , Anonymous said...: Yes, stabbing beauty and a man who has rocks in his head. Interesting comments about him on Rate My Professor.
At November 12, 2018 at 11:08 PM , Anonymous said...: More like stabby jealous dork and her spineless cuck husband.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:19 AM , Anonymous said...: Hi. So sorry for the confusion. I am an Empath and I just do not get good vibes from the "writer". I do not know how to explain this as it is a "feeling". I am not saying who the writer is or is not. ** Judging by the intense reaction, I suspect my "feelings" might not be wrong.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:25 AM , Anonymous said...: An empath? Hmmmm. Too hilarious my dear friend. Take some pills looool.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:28 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: THE WRITER -->"At November 6, 2018 at 12:46 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't have any photos of Bernadette and I don't know anything about her sister in law. Are you looking for photos from the time she was arrested or adult photos? If the Facebook page was created to cause a stir, why would the person delete the comments. Surely the negative comments would be entertaining to someone creating a stir. I think it's either her or a member of her family. It was a stupid thing to set up in the first place, much like the blog."
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If you read the "writer's" comments (the one I pasted here is just an example of one), the "writer" is not very objective and open minded as she/he would like you to think. There is bias and a leaning towards Bernadette. I don't trust the "writer". Read the comments posted and form your own opinion and I mean that in the nicest way. Perhaps you will see what I feel.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:29 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: At November 13, 2018 at 12:25 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
An empath? Hmmmm. Too hilarious my dear friend. Take some pills looool.

________________

No offense taken I realize not everyone is educated or open minded. Perhaps if you do some research it might enlighten you.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:38 AM , Anonymous said...: Apologies. I agree, the writer is Gary Tomanka planning to exterminate the haters on here. I'm feeling it too.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:43 AM , Anonymous said...: "English Anonymous", you said you were done with this blog. What are you trying to achieve with your latest comments about Mr Tomanka? Just stop mentioning him. He is nothing to do with this blog.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:47 AM , Anonymous said...: At November 12, 2018 at 1:35 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wondered when the bitching would start. This is not a serious forum just a chance for frustrated people with no lives to start attacking one another. I am am the English writer. Who do you really think I am? Bernadette? Her sister? I had hoped to get some deeper insight into this sad story but it seems that a war has broken out. I'm not misleading and neither will I justify myself to your righteousness, I will try and find a more intelligent source, I left the school playground years ago!
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Karen, the "writer" is easily reactive even though that person claims to be aware of some negative comments on this so why is the "writer" reacting that way? Why is the "writer" telling you, and I am quoting this one sentence from you Karen, "I'm interested in reading your comments about why my opinions on this barely active blog about Bernadette's murder of Kirsten being evil and heinous equates to " having a frustrated life". " That does not sound objective either, nor was it a way to approach someone to get information for a story.
Then the writer makes a hasty exit the minute someone questions their intention (after having a reaction first)? Hmmmm...... The writer has spent more time trying to convince the people on this blog of such and such not being Bernadette or whatever than gathering any information. That's why I said, people can read the "writer's" comments and form their own opinion.
At November 13, 2018 at 12:56 AM , Anonymous said...: This is Mrs Protti. My love to you all.
At November 13, 2018 at 1:11 AM , Anonymous said...: Mrs Protti? Bernadette's mother? Aren't you a little old for trolling Mrs Protti?
At November 13, 2018 at 1:13 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: At November 13, 2018 at 12:56 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is Mrs Protti. My love to you all.

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You keep posting foolish inappropriate comments. That just happen to pop up after the alleged War you claim is happening in here yet you haven't even conversed with fairness to Karen by responding to her question as to Karen, "having a frustrated life".

Gently drift away like a leaf writer, no need to do what you are doing here.
At November 13, 2018 at 1:20 AM , Anonymous said...: Mrs Protti loves you all. You do very good work here. Come to my party and celebrate.
At November 13, 2018 at 1:25 AM , Anonymous said...: Looks like Stephanie is back again.
At November 13, 2018 at 1:26 AM , Anonymous said...: At November 13, 2018 at 1:20 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mrs Protti loves you all. You do very good work here. Come to my party and celebrate.
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Still have that hug knife do you?
At November 13, 2018 at 1:39 AM , Anonymous said...: No I'm a good girl
At November 13, 2018 at 6:09 AM , Anonymous said...: Fish head fish head Purple Haze is Karen with a fish head.
At November 13, 2018 at 6:15 AM , Anonymous said...: At September 22, 2017 at 6:17 PM , Blogger Purple haze said...
I agree. Stephanie is one of the oddest people I've ever encountered on the internet. She's worse than any ardent Bernadette supporter. As she said herself: "this is all fun to me anyway". Shame a woman in her 30's can't find more suitable pursuits than trolling about a teenage murder victim.
At November 13, 2018 at 6:38 AM , Anonymous said...: The law at the time gave her such a light sentence for murder, Bernadette was born in 1968 so she was almost 16 years old yet had no remorse. I wonder if Bernadette sought mental help after having been released? That is what makes this murderess still a very scary person, not to be trusted - we do not know if she had ever been treated properly for her serious mental health problems. I know kids are not the same as adults but it is ridiculous to believe that an almost 16 year old (Bernadette) had to conscious. There is no cure for a sociopath so she is still scary and dangerous. People have the right to know if a murderer lives among them, so we can protect our children and ourselves.

At August 30, 2018 at 8:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Now that Bernadette is older and has all the material things she coveted, she has to realize by now that she will never have the things that really matter, the things that all the money in the world could never - that has to bother her and she can never change it."

Or maybe, like most people at mid-life, she's come to value material things less, family and friends more, and is merely thankful for her many blessings.
That's probably not what you want to hear, but oh well.
At November 13, 2018 at 8:01 AM , Anonymous said...: At February 22, 2017 at 1:17 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
How were Bernadette's sisters outcasts?
I don't think Bern was as popular as Kirsten. If she was as popular why did she want Kirsten's approval so badly?
I agree with you that people would have matured over time.
Her best friend ostracized herself by defending a murderer.
At November 13, 2018 at 8:27 AM , Anonymous said...: Is it a full moon or has a patient escaped from the asylum?
At November 13, 2018 at 10:52 AM , Anonymous said...: Purple Haze there is definitely someone here who is re-posting older comments. Senseless and such a shame that they have to behave like this on a blog such as this one. Apparently this person doing this loves playing games.
At November 14, 2018 at 12:46 AM , Anonymous said...: Purple haze Purple haze I want to see you standing in the purple haze.
At November 14, 2018 at 4:48 AM , Anonymous said...: The world is full of meaning its time to do spring cleaning. Bip bop bip bop
At November 14, 2018 at 1:50 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, I know you're trying to piss people off and be disruptive, but I'm more embarrassed by your behaviour than annoyed. If you want to behave like an adult with a preschool mentality, knock yourself out.
At November 14, 2018 at 2:04 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I didn't look that deeply into it. I will look over the comments when I'm not so tired. I thought her comment about a "frustrated life" was directed at those perceived to be argumentative and not me specifically, but maybe I didn't read it correctly. I suppose if the English poster thought this was a "catty" blog, you'd think she would have thicker skin and not be so offended over your comment. I didn't think it was a big deal. Good luck to her, though.
At November 15, 2018 at 12:56 AM , Anonymous said...: Bernadette is crowned Miss Universe. The most beautiful girl in the world. Orinda wants her back.
At November 15, 2018 at 1:14 AM , Anonymous said...: Gary Tomanka is lovely man.
At November 15, 2018 at 2:47 AM , Anonymous said...: And, america shows just how ignorant it really is. This blogger likes to talk a lot of crap about how people need "justice" that they got. Our criminal system took care of her, she was tried and found guilty. She missed out on everything she held dear, and moved on. MOVED. ON. Here's some witch hunter after her who doesn't think she's going to be in trouble for defamation. Follows her obsessively, and has not one whit of compassion for her family who had nothing to do with it. Oooh, her sister (who didn't murder ANY ONE) is a millionaire!!! go after her! Or, oooh, a christian my ass. Go after her children. All while probably having children themselves and having no idea what it's like to ACTUALLY grow up in an affluent family and how much comments hurt and scar. Children don't think of long term. They ONLY think of what's happening now. Not later. Now. So, Anonymous, I'd be careful of your blog and hope to god someone doesn't out you and go after you. Like you deserve. It's a person like yourself that voted for Trump, no doubt in my mind.
At November 15, 2018 at 4:51 AM , Anonymous said...: Donald Trump is Gary Tomanka and his wife is Bernadette Protti in disguise and that's why she id free to live a good life. But don't tell anyone shhhhhhhh
At November 15, 2018 at 5:04 AM , Anonymous said...: Stephanie, you are one crazy pathetic moronic specimen. You are 35/36 and this is how you spend your time. You create fake profiles and attack Bernadette's social media accounts and then you write crazy pro Bernadette crap here. I've rarely come across an English person online that wasn't fucking gross.
At November 15, 2018 at 5:11 AM , Anonymous said...: I apologise for my last comment. That was a bit xenophobic. Your pathetic behavior is nothing to do with you being English.
At November 15, 2018 at 7:29 AM , Anonymous said...: I'm Irish
At November 15, 2018 at 7:55 AM , Anonymous said...: Sure, Stephanie. Has Liverpool detached itself from England and attached to Dublin? You have pretended to be so many different people on this blog, so why not pretend to be Irish too.
At November 15, 2018 at 8:25 AM , Anonymous said...: Fuck Off
At November 15, 2018 at 2:12 PM , Anonymous said...: Now, now, Stephanie. That's not very nice, is it?
At November 15, 2018 at 7:45 PM , Anonymous said...: Wow whoever that looney is I wish the owner of this blog would come and delete a lot of those comments because it is making the legitimate comments get lost and making the blog look nasty when it is not. There are truly some sick twisted individuals in this world besides Bernadette. No shame, no empathy or compassion for a child who was murdered by a kid who thought she was "entitled". Who cares if they have money now or not - what does that have to do real class and humanity? You can't buy a conscience.

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