Bernadette Protti IS Jeannette Tomanka: Bernadette Protti found! New name Jeannette Tomanka!

Saturday, December 6, 2014

Bernadette Protti found! New name Jeannette Tomanka!

Bernadette Protti aka Jeannette Tomanka

For many years I have been reading about Kirsten Costas and Bernadette Protti. Since the time I watched the lifetime movie "A Friend to Die For", I found myself obsessed with this case. Years later the Costas family is still in pain and they will never have their beloved child back. But Bernadette and her family have moved on had children successful careers (Google Virgina Protti Varela) she is a CEO now! I have dedicated this blog to honor Kirsten's memory.

Virginia Protti Varela the CEO

Bernadette has changed her name to Jeannette Tomanka. A quick Google search and you will see what she has been up to. She also runs a fake Facebook and Twitter account where she uses her name but changes the location to through web sleuths off into thinking that's not her. But pay close attention to the page. She never shows her face or has photos and her friends and family call her Bernie, but she quickly deletes those comments. I don't know why other blogs will not out her. It isn't illegal and I would never post her numbers or addresses even though they are easily google-able. I'm not protecting a murderer. If she committed that crime today she would still be locked up.

Oh, and Virginia and Jeannette or Bernie don't even bother with the dumb and senseless comments you leave. I suggest you change your name again or better yet just apologize to the Costas family and own the fact your're a killer. That's a fact. And now your sister is a a millionaire and it was her knife. So she claims. The Costas family should sue you clowns for every penny your worth since you guys are not "poor" anymore.

1812 Comments:

At September 10, 2017 at 10:36 AM , Anonymous said...: Excellent comment, Anonymous. What a shame this lingering toxic presence can't get her jollies from an adult relationship instead of continuing to troll a site that sympathizes with a murder victim.
At September 12, 2017 at 8:33 AM , Anonymous said...: LOL, says the obsessive Brit who's posted the same rants dozens of times.
At September 13, 2017 at 1:17 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous, Sept 12.

As my comment was the last one to be posted, I’ll assume you are talking to me.

You continue to come back to this blog even though you’ve made it clear in the past that you hate it. It must be my marvellous charming dazzling presence that continues to lure you back because, let’s face it, you just can’t stay away :)

If you think that my responses to people who address me, or my comments that defend Kirsten -- a murder victim -- are indicative of what I accused Anon of: “a lingering toxic presence that can't get her jollies from an adult relationship instead of trolling”, by all means, knock yourself out.

I'm not British. I have mentioned a couple of times that I live in Europe, but that doesn't mean that I'm British because I speak English. That's an ignorant assumption, tbh

Is writing comments in defence of Kirsten in response to negative comments suggestive of obsession? Is empathy considered obsession? Perhaps if those who wrote negative comments possessed a modicum of sense and weren't bereft of basic decency, they wouldn't be criticising a teenage girl who was brutally murdered. Perhaps if those who wrote negative comments possessed critical thinking skills, didn't take a fictional depiction at face value and weren't so wilfully ignorant, they would discover that Bernadette wasn't some doe- eyed innocent little lamb and beneath her sweet exterior was a dangerous mental illness that surfaced with tragic results for the real victim in this case -- Kirsten.

“who's posted the same rants dozens of times”

Perhaps if those who wrote negative comments didn't ask repetitive questions and had sufficient comprehension abilities, I wouldn't need to repeat myself.

Are you going to continue to come back to this website and engage in puerile, school- yard mud-slinging, or are you going to engage in a debate and dispute what I or others have written about Bernadette?
At September 13, 2017 at 1:20 AM , Karen : ) said...: I didn't realise how long my comment was. There is one criticism I do agree with and that's that I can't get to the point quickly.
At September 17, 2017 at 5:16 PM , Anonymous said...: September 7 is Stephanie again. How do I know? Well, not only does she create countless profiles, but she also copies and pastes other people's comments and passes them off as her own. She will continue to come back and continue to write bilge to provoke. She has no shame and will write anything and pretend to be anyone, including Bernadette or someone close to Kirsten. There are no depths low enough to which she will not sink.
At September 17, 2017 at 5:20 PM , Anonymous said...: September 12,

I see you haven't taken taken me up on my suggestion to engage in a debate and dispute what I or others have written about Bernadette, instead of continually coming back to this website to engage in petulant name calling. You're not as low as Stephanie, but you are just as sad.
At September 21, 2017 at 9:08 AM , Anonymous said...: Everyone shut up leave the poor girl to rest in peace. Your all pathetic arguing over the internet, trolling people why dont you get off your lazy ass and GET A JOB stop with the shit people will get sick of seeing this bill!!! Bumbers
At September 21, 2017 at 5:17 PM , Karen : ) said...: What is it about blog that supports Kirsten that suggests that people don't have jobs? I'm not arguing or trolling. I respond to people who unfairly criticise Kirsten, or who call me puerile names. Perhaps it's you, Ms Durney, that doesn't have a job. You must have a hell of a lot of time on your hands to create countless profiles, pretend to be different people (including people close to the case), continue to troll a blog that sympathises with a murder victim for your own amusement even though you are a woman in her 30's, copies other people's comments and posts them as your own, continues to come back even though you've been called out many times. You're not interested in Kirsten resting in peace because if you were, you wouldn't have pretended to be someone close to her on Bernadette's fb page. You're not interested in Kirsten resting in peace because if you were, you wouldn't criticise her under different aliases and suggest that she deserved what she got. You're not interested in defending Bernadette either because if you were, you wouldn't pretend to be her or her sister. Instead of continuing to come back to this blog, your time would be better invested in seeking out some psychiatric care because you truly are in great need of it.

Is "bumber" a Liverpool/English slang word? Here's an appropriate phrase for you: "away with the fairies",as in, Stephanie, you are away with the fairies.
At September 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM , Itsaboutime said...: Thank you Purple Haze!!! She is a lunatic. Seriously sick in the head.
At September 22, 2017 at 6:12 PM , Karen : ) said...: You're welcome, itsaboutime. It must be tough to read such moronic,nasty crap about someone you cared about. All the best.
At September 22, 2017 at 6:17 PM , Karen : ) said...: I agree. Stephanie is one of the oddest people I've ever encountered on the internet. She's worse than any ardent Bernadette supporter. As she said herself: "this is all fun to me anyway". Shame a woman in her 30's can't find more suitable pursuits than trolling about a teenage murder victim.
At September 26, 2017 at 5:51 AM , Anonymous said...: Interesting website. Saw the documentary recently. Can't help but wonder what the conservative Texans in Grapevine think when they google Jeannette Tomanka/Bernadette Protti and realize there is a wolf in sheep's clothing in the city. Hope she doesn't volunteer at her kid's school. That hair trigger temper could flare again.
At September 26, 2017 at 11:07 PM , Anonymous said...: I don't know. Her child has been publicly acknowledged for playing a sport, so is it possible that an article about Bernadette will come up if someone looks up an article about her child? Might her child's peers discover that Mrs Tomanka is a murderer? Jeannette/Bernadette's name and past was available online before this website, so her past was eventually going to come out online at some point. The monstrous attack that she subjected Kirsten to and her behaviour after Kirsten's murder shows that she is a reprobate and I have no sympathy for her if people in her community discover her past. I feel sorry for her child, though. Maybe the child's peers will never find out what her despicable mother did.
At September 29, 2017 at 3:09 PM , Anonymous said...: Bravo Purple Haze! I admire your stance in dealing with the heartless posts of some people who would rather be cruel about an innocent child who was murdered than to have enough decency and integrity to simply not post their stupidity here. It really breaks my heart that such heartless people even exist. Kirsten and her family are and will always be, the only true victims who suffered the most at the hands of a demented Bernadette /Jeannette. That alone should be enough to disgust and frighten a normal person - but as you've said Purple Haze, some of the posters are not normal. Love, Light and Prayers to Kirsten and her family, Always.
At October 1, 2017 at 5:02 PM , Karen : ) said...: Thank you Anonymous. That's sweet of you to say. It should disgust people, but unfortunately, murderers will always have supporters.

The English woman who often posts here wants to provoke people into replying in anger. She knows what she is doing is sick, but she couldn't care less. Her sick shtick can be found on blogs dated back to 2008, which is long before you or I have commented on this case. It must be very boring in "merry ol' England" for her to have done this for as long as she has. If you look at other blogs, you will see her asinine drivel where she pretended to be different people (including Bernadette and someone close to Kirsten). She even had a reddit page where she pretended to be Bernadette and described herself as "something of a murderer". There are no depths to which she will not sink.

"Love, Light and Prayers to Kirsten and her family, Always"

I concur.
At October 11, 2017 at 1:29 PM , Anonymous said...: You are a cunt purple haze.
At October 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM , Anonymous said...: Anonymous, not only are you disgusting in what you posted, but you should not waste even 1 more moment in seeking help - you are clearly extremely disturbed! Seek help immediately for the safety of those around you.
At October 16, 2017 at 4:21 PM , Anonymous said...: So murdering for bullying is ok Your logic is messed up anyways I'm a Hispanic man gree up getting sexually molested which is much worse than bullying and I didn't go murder that person. No I decided that person would never have power over me again by talking about my problems. I did have substance abuse issues for atime but that's in past anyways as my granpa use say "two wrongs don't make a right" Watch who your kids are friends with that's all I can say and talk to them like really talk to them that I think is part of problem not that Iwant last blame on parents but it may have changed things
At October 16, 2017 at 4:37 PM , Anonymous said...: Bernadette is still as selfish and status driven as she was in high school - she's still very dangerous, eve more so now that she is a full grown woman. She's done quite well for herself and married well too. Bernadette's as status driven & narcissistic as ever. Bernadette still blocks it out - how else would a murderer be able to have children??? Bernadette's selfishness knows no bounds - I feel sorry for her children, with all the information all over the internet, her children will know the truth one day that their mommy is a murderer - how awful & selfish to do that to her children - Bernadette has created more innocent victims ! How poor could Bernadette's family have really been that poor if they lived where they lived in Orinda and the mother was giving so much money to the church and the girls are college educated, etc.... Just more Protti BS.
At October 18, 2017 at 6:55 AM , Anonymous said...: I see Stephanie's back. She's a c*nt, too.
At October 18, 2017 at 7:06 AM , Itsaboutime said...: That about sums its up.
At October 18, 2017 at 7:14 AM , Anonymous said...: I wouldn't normally use the word cunt to describe anyone, but.... judging from Stephanie's disgusting behaviour, I think it's a fitting description.
At October 18, 2017 at 4:03 PM , Anonymous said...: Is it possible that Stephanie is Bernadette? She's so NOT normal & vulgar in her posts - beyond inappropriate. Perhaps Bernadette is venting behind a fake name??
At October 18, 2017 at 7:33 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous Oct 11th, Anonymous Oct 18th

Too? I take it that you are also calling me a cunt.
You and Anonymous Oct 12th can call me what you like, but I’m curious as to what you think makes me a “cunt”?

Am I a “cunt” for sympathising with Kirsten’s horrific murder that shouldn’t have happened? Am I a “cunt” for being disgusted with Kirsten’s vilification 30+ years after her death and the portrayal of her murderer as an innocent doe-eyed little lamb when she was anything but?

Am I a “c” for being disgusted with Bernadette for concocting a ruse to get Kirsten out of her house alone and then stalking and butchering Kirsten to death because Kirsten was understandably upset and confused about Bernadette’s lies and wanted to get away from her? Am I a “c” for being disgusted with Bernadette for having a large knife hidden in her car when she met Kirsten, which she returned to the kitchen after the murder for others in her house to use? Am I a “c” for being disgusted with Bernadette’s nonchalant behaviour after Kirsten’s murder and her ability to go to Kirsten’s funeral knowing she was responsible for putting Kirsten in her coffin? Am I a “c” for being disgusted with Bernadette’s ability to coolly engage in classroom discussions about Kirsten’s murder, which included Kirsten’s friends? Am I a “c” for being disgusted with Bernadette’s ability to keep up an innocent pretence for 6 months after Kirsten’s murder and allowing the community to blame two girls for Kirsten’s murder? Am I a “c” for being disgusted with Bernadette referring to herself as a “lifehacker” on her FB page and hinting at Kirsten’s murder when asked about it and giving the impression she was amused?

Perhaps you think I’m a cunt for responding to people who unfairly criticise Kirsten even though my responses are generally civil.

If you think my empathy for Kirsten and her loved ones portrays me as a "cunt", that's fine with me.
At October 18, 2017 at 7:37 PM , Karen : ) said...: October 16th/Stephanie,

Lord Jesus Christ... stop it.
At October 18, 2017 at 7:48 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, Oct 18th,

No, Stephanie isn't Bernadette. Unfortunately, Stephanie is very much a real person from England.

I get updates from this blog to my phone email and Stephanie has been conversing with her previous aliases on the blog today. Her disturbing, perplexing, abnormal behaviour gives me a "Norman Bates" vibe.
At October 18, 2017 at 8:04 PM , Anonymous said...: Purple Haze I think you are a Beautiful person and that the vulgarity of Stephanie and whomever is a reflection of them - NOT you. So sorry that you have to deal with the "Norman Bates" type (totally understand why you would get that vibe), for simply telling the truth about what Bernadette did to Kirsten. ((HUGS))
At October 18, 2017 at 8:15 PM , Karen : ) said...: That's so sweet and kind, thank you. It will take more than Stephanie or petulant Kirsten detractors to get to me. I almost pity that they are so bereft of basic decency. Thank you x x
At October 24, 2017 at 2:09 PM , Anonymous said...: Wow, the blogger needs professional help! It's over, so get over it.
At October 24, 2017 at 6:22 PM , Anonymous said...: I'm sure you have read through this comment section and have noticed that your comment has already been uttered by someone else and addressed with clear, simple, polite explanations. It would be a better use of your time to find something more constructive to do instead of parroting someone else's comment in an attempt to troll bait for attention, especially if you are an adult. I hope you have a blessed life and never experience the heart wrenching anguish and unspeakable grief of losing a loved one to murder.
At October 25, 2017 at 6:58 AM , WineMakesMeHappy said...: Sooo... Are u all through arguing? I opened a bottle of Cabernet back in the Jan 2016 comments and have been quite amused, please carry on. Side note: Anonymous is definitely Bernadette are one of the sisters and it's sickening that you are still defending a murderer! Carry on...
At October 25, 2017 at 9:39 AM , Anonymous said...: There are at least a dozen different people posting here under the name Anonymous, so exactly which Anonymous is Bernadette or a sibling?
- Yep, another Anonymous
At October 25, 2017 at 2:52 PM , Unknown said...: Yes, Bernadette did a horrible thing but she's served her time and by outing Jeannette as Bernadette you could be putting her innocent family members lives in danger. For example, say someone isn't happy that she's out now so they take it upon themselves to punish her by killing her child. Would you really want that to happen?
At October 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM , Anonymous said...: No one is going to kill her child. But people on this forum HAVE insulted/attacked family members who had nothing to do with the crime. That is plain wrong.
At October 26, 2017 at 6:39 PM , Anonymous said...: What innocent person has been attacked/insulted?
At October 26, 2017 at 7:14 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: " October 25, 2017 at 2:52 PM , Blogger Emily Uricoechea said...
Yes, Bernadette did a horrible thing but she's served her time and by outing Jeannette as Bernadette you could be putting her innocent family members lives in danger. For example, say someone isn't happy that she's out now so they take it upon themselves to punish her by killing her child. Would you really want that to happen?"---------- Why did Bernadette endanger the welfare of her own children by having them in the first place? Bernadette knows she's a murderer - did she really think she could hide it from everyone? Bernadette is selfish -just imagine what her children will go through when they find out their mommy is a child killing murderer. IT IS ALL BERNADETTE'S FAULT.
At November 3, 2017 at 10:08 AM , Anonymous said...: People magazine had a recent special issue devoted to crime. I wonder if there was any information about Bernadette Jeannette Protti Tomanka in it. When she went to trial People magazine ran an article on Protti and the murder of Kirsten Costas.
At November 3, 2017 at 3:36 PM , Anonymous said...: I would be very surprised if it did mention "Bernadette Jeannette Protti Tomanka in it" only because that one sided movie, Death of A Cheerleader, has been out for so long and the facts were never clarified by People Magazine. That would have been a great article if they would address the fact that that is just a movie, NOT a documentary, and not only does it not fairly represent both sides - it does not state all the relevant facts about the case. Too many people are taking this movie at face value so in my opinion, this would be a great article for People Magazine to write - to set the record straight about the facts/this movie once and for all. So awful that an innocent child can be murdered so heinously yet no one cares about the actual facts. It's hard to pity someone like Bernadette who continues to lie and downplay the horrific butchering of Kirsten. Bernadette is so smug she even had children! So not fair to do that to her children. Bernadette should have been grateful she still had a life to live.
At November 6, 2017 at 7:25 PM , Karen : ) said...: Wine makes me happy,

Who is arguing? Calmly addressing someone's ignorance and stating a couple of points doesn't necessarily mean the person is arguing.

You have been "quite amused", have you? You find this funny? What's funny about it? Funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fucking amuse you? How am I funny, what the fuck is so funny about me? Tell me, tell me what's so funny!
I'm joking. The above is a quote from the movie "Goodfellas".

I don't see what's so amusing about people criticism Kirsten or her family. Perhaps you find me amusing? If so, laugh away.
At November 6, 2017 at 7:29 PM , Karen : ) said...: *criticising.
At November 6, 2017 at 9:00 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous.

"too many people are taking this movie at face value"

I understand teenagers taking it at face value, but the adults should have more sense and be capable of critical thought.

I don't feel sorry for Bernadette at all. Bernadette killed in cold blood, she subjected. Kirsten to a heinous stabbing attack and her nonchalant behaviour after the murder is disturbing. For example, her ability to coolly discuss Kirsten's murder in class, which included Kirsten's friends.

If Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten, surely she would have hated the sight of Kirsten and stayed away from her as much as possible, yet she seemed to have worked in the school office to be close to Kirsten. When that didn't work, she lured Kirsten out of her house under false pretences. I find it astounding that Bernadette who was supposedly intelligent couldn't forsee that luring someone out of their house under false pretences would be considered weird (at the very least)

Some people blame the murder on pressure to be successful. There is pressure to succeed everywhere in the world. I think Bernadette would have been sick no matter what environment she was in. She had rage and jealousy issues and she was denied parole twice because of her inability to deal with them.

I also don't know why anyone would feel sorry for Bernadette after the following quote from her neighbour:

A murder this heinous is not something anyone just "forgives and forgets", least of all my family. I was there that night. I saw Kirsten's blood squinting out all over my father as she struggled to breathe. She knew she was dying and the horror on her face as she bled out before us was something none of us will ever forget. You may have served your time under the law but it will Not be forgotten. The grotesque/premeditated nature ilof the savage murder you perpetrated demand that this follow you for the rest of your life.
At November 8, 2017 at 5:51 AM , Anonymous said...: Can the folks who regularly comment on this blog answer a question for me? Do you support exposing Bernadette Protti's new identity? If so, why?
At November 9, 2017 at 4:29 AM , Anonymous said...: Why do you want to know?
At November 10, 2017 at 6:46 PM , Anonymous said...: Cat got your tongue, I suppose?
At November 11, 2017 at 5:45 AM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, November 8th,

I'll answer your question when I get the chance. My replies tend to be long and I don't have time at the moment to write a long comment or two.
At November 18, 2017 at 1:14 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: -->At November 8, 2017 at 5:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can the folks who regularly comment on this blog answer a question for me? Do you support exposing Bernadette Protti's new identity? If so, why? ****
Why? Seriously? Do you think it is okay for someone to take the life of an innocent person away and then be allowed to act as if Bernadette never stabbed poor Kirsten over and over to her death with that 18" butcher knife?? I think what you should be asking is HOW DO THE PARENTS AND BROTHER OF KIRSTEN MANAGE TO LIVE WITH THE NEVER ENDING PAIN AND LOSS OF KIRSTEN. What is all this crap about worrying about Bernadette? People have a right to be aware of a murderer in their midst! Why aren't people caring about the REAL VICTIMS who will suffer forever - the Costas. Bernadette is responsible for her own actions - anyone who can't understand this is quite stupid.
At November 18, 2017 at 5:23 AM , Anonymous said...: I completely agree, Anonymous. Well said. Love your comments, btw.
At November 20, 2017 at 5:43 AM , Anonymous said...: So the answer is, "People have a right to be aware of a murderer in their midst." Fair enough (You could have simply stated this without all the hysteria). Anyone else care to weigh in?
At November 20, 2017 at 7:00 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: --> "At November 20, 2017 at 5:43 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
So the answer is, "People have a right to be aware of a murderer in their midst." Fair enough (You could have simply stated this without all the hysteria). Anyone else care to weigh in?" -------------
Hit a Nerve did I ?
At November 20, 2017 at 9:01 PM , Anonymous said...: Has anyone else seen this article I came across? /link below. I wonder if this is why someone is asking --> "At November 8, 2017 at 5:51 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can the folks who regularly comment on this blog answer a question for me? Do you support exposing Bernadette Protti's new identity? If so, why?"

"Kirsten Costas was one of those kids who seemed to have everything going for her. A native Californian, Costas was from an affluent family. She was cute, did well in school, and was extremely popular. Costas tended to get what she wanted, whether it was a coveted spot on the yearbook committee, membership in the Bob-o-Links sorority group, or the opportunity to be on the cheerleading squad.
By all accounts, Costas’s school was extremely competitive back in the early 1980s. Students were encouraged to “be the best,” and being a cheerleader was as good as it got. Costas’s star was rising, and she had everything to look forward to.
Unfortunately, not everyone cheered her success. One girl actually hated her for it. On June 23, 1984, Costas was stabbed to death by a classmate–a girl who’d desperately wanted to be a cheerleader and make the yearbook committee. To Bernadette Protti, Costas was the ultimate symbol of her failure, and when the popular girl refused to be Protti’s friend, she signed her own death warrant.
The “Life Hacker”
Costas was only fifteen years old when she was stabbed a few feet away from her own front door. Her killer was sentenced to nine years in prison, but got out in seven. Today, Protti has a new name and a new life. She’s a wife and mother who blogs as a “life hacker,” sharing tips about home decor and recipes.
Not everyone is happy that Protti got a second chance. While researching her case, I was shocked to find at least one website devoted entirely to terrorizing her: revealing her new name and occupation, mocking her blog posts, encouraging others to bully her online and then reporting the woman’s responses with vicious glee. The owner of the site points out that Protti is indeed a “life hacker,” as she hacked Costas’s life away, a Freudian slip I’m sure Protti didn’t even think of.
If Costas’s family were out for vengeance, it would be understandable. Seven years wouldn’t seem like much of a penalty to pay for viciously murdering their daughter. But, surprisingly, the person running this website wasn’t even born when Protti committed her crime, so there’s no way she could have known the victim. And yet, she’s doing everything she can to ensure Protti’s “new life” is a living hell, and I’m sure she’s not the only one."

http://www.jhmoncrieff.com/killers-get-second-chance/
At November 20, 2017 at 9:07 PM , Anonymous said...: Contact Information for the Author of the above article: http://www.jhmoncrieff.com/contact/
At November 20, 2017 at 9:12 PM , Anonymous said...: I wonder how true this article is? (Yes Bernadette Protti is on the list. This is an entirely different article than the one posted above.)

https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-killer-kids-who-are-under-protection-from-the-government/
At November 20, 2017 at 9:38 PM , Anonymous said...: Nov 8th, Is empathy considered hysteria? Do you support Bernadette? If so, why? I would be interested to read your response. LOL at the suggestion that this blog is terrorising Bernadette. If this is considered terrorising, you are an easily offended little snowflake . A little look at Bernadette's visitor posts on her FB page will put to bed the notion that 'lifehacker' is a Freudian slip. Do little blogs that discuss Bernadette's crime really affect her life? Probably not. I'm sure she is getting on just fine.
At November 21, 2017 at 3:11 AM , Anonymous said...: Anonymous from Nov 20, 9:01 pm: I had not seen this article. Thank you for sharing.
At November 21, 2017 at 8:38 AM , Anonymous said...: TO: Anonymous @ November 21, 2017 at 3:11 AM
You're welcome. I can't say for sure that the author of the article is the one asking the question (Nov 8), but it certainly makes me wonder. I was very surprised when I read the article, it appears to favor Bernadette as it doesn't mention even the basic facts of the murder of Kirsten, nor does it address the fact that no amount of time heals the loss of a child, especially a child murdered in such a heinous way for no reason other than Bernadette being insecure, jealous and full of deadly hate (to put it mildly).

My empathy is for Kirsten and her family. I also feel for the girls who got blamed while Bernadette behaved so "sick" for those 6 months before the FBI was onto her. The lack of empathy for the real victims is a very sad and frightening reflection on the behalf of some people.

I do wish the law would take measures to create permanent changes on murderers lives, such as: a murderer can not hide/change their identity (so people can be aware of who is a murderer); when getting married a murderer has to prove full disclosure of their crime to the person they wish to marry at the time of applying for a marriage license; and I don't think it's fair for a murderer to have children (what child deserves to find out their parent is a killer?)... Anyways, these are just some thoughts I have because it is beyond unfair for a murderer to just walk away and move on with life as though they never did a thing while their victim lies in the earth and their other victims have to live with the consequences forever.
At November 23, 2017 at 9:33 AM , Anonymous said...: Happy Thanksgiving everyone. If Bernadette didn't cruelly take Kirsten away and rob her of her future, it's likely she would be celebrating Thanksgiving with her own family, her own children.
At December 6, 2017 at 2:38 AM , Anonymous said...: May Kirsten and her family be blessed this holiday season. Blessings to everyone effected by this senseless tragedy and wishing that a measure of peaceful moments be found for the family throughout the years to come. Bless everyone who posted and prayers for empathy and compassion for the victims by those who fail to grasp the true nature of this tragedy and the events that led up to it.
At December 6, 2017 at 7:22 AM , Anonymous said...: What a lovely comment. Same to you.
At December 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM , Anonymous said...: LOL, are you having fun talking to yourself?
At December 7, 2017 at 12:50 PM , Anonymous said...: I don't always sign in because I can't be bothered to. There is a clear difference between my comments (purplehaze) and Anonymous above. However, if you want to assume we are the same person, knock yourself out, you gobshite. There you go... You got what you wanted (attention). Happy holidays to you.
At December 7, 2017 at 6:02 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: At December 7, 2017 at 12:50 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don't always sign in because I can't be bothered to. There is a clear difference between my comments (purplehaze) and Anonymous above.

Hi Purplehaze, Thank you.

Apparently"At December 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
LOL, are you having fun talking to yourself?"
don't realize the difference & would rather "stir the pot" sadly.
At December 7, 2017 at 11:47 PM , Anonymous said...: One more thing to --> "At December 7, 2017 at 11:54 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
LOL, are you having fun talking to yourself?"

"Anonymous" is used by many people who post on here, you have used it yourself - so your point is senseless.

Personally, I use "Anonymous" because of unstable, hateful people who lack empathy and compassion for the victims - perhaps you should be asking what it is you dislike about yourself that makes you feel the need to be the way that you are in response to my post that Blesses ALL who post here.
At December 8, 2017 at 5:18 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous. You're welcome. I find it cringey that the other Anonymous (if it's always the same person) keeps starting their comments off with "LOL". She can "laugh out loud" all she likes, but the "LOL" phrase is overused and cringey for a middle aged woman to keep using it. Anyway, I hope you are enjoying the holiday season.
At December 10, 2017 at 5:29 PM , Anonymous said...: Gobshite is an irish word. You said you live in Europe and you are not British. Are you irish?
At December 14, 2017 at 11:30 PM , Karen : ) said...: Whether I'm Irish, Icelandic, French, Portuguese.......etc is irrelevant. "Gobshite" isn't just used in Ireland either, btw.
At December 21, 2017 at 10:01 PM , Unknown said...: Could be time to forgive & move on. Holding this anger only hurts you. :-( Talk to someone about it. A professional, or seek a support group. Clearly your anger is truely hurt & you're grieving.
At December 23, 2017 at 9:35 AM , Unknown said...: Thank you because she has no life
At December 23, 2017 at 9:44 AM , Unknown said...: You don't have to feel sorry and what happen to the right for privacy she did her time let it be y'all don't know all the true facts only what media papers and other people have pointed out bully is still a problem 30 years later I'm sorry Kristen was killed but she was no Saint and I believe she picked on that girl I honestly believe she just wanted to show Kristen she wasn't wired and just wanted the two of them to hang out
At December 23, 2017 at 9:52 AM , Unknown said...: Thank god for the internet, where the murderer's cant hide, and hope everyone forgets what they did.7 years for what should have been first degree murder.That was a gift, a slap on a teenage hand.she wanted costas dead, and killed her! As for her just wanting to live a normal life and put all this behind her.Never!!!!! YOU ARE PART OF THE OJ SIMPSON ELITE, fantasticly published murderers, WHO ARE NOW FREE TO WALK AMONGST US.and all the religious feedback, stunning.
At December 23, 2017 at 9:55 AM , Anonymous said...: "Lesley". Your comments are a headache to read. I know this isn't an English class, but it would be appreciated if you used some punctuation. If Kirsten gave Bernadette a hard time, where is the proof? Why didn't Bernadette give any examples? Why didn't she give a proper answer as to why she killed Kirsten?
At December 24, 2017 at 1:50 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: "December 23, 2017 at 9:35 AM , Blogger Lesley Brown said...
Thank you because she has no life"

You truly lack basic common sense to have even put that comment on here. Let me spell it out for you: H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E
You comment on a site for a victim of a heinous crime while accusing someone else of not having a life, even though you also comment on this site.
At December 24, 2017 at 1:54 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: "At December 21, 2017 at 10:01 PM , Blogger Walsh Life Counseling said...
Could be time to forgive & move on. Holding this anger only hurts you. :-( Talk to someone about it. A professional, or seek a support group. Clearly your anger is truely hurt & you're grieving."

Clearly YOU do not understand the nature of this site. If you are troubled by this site, take your own advice.
At December 24, 2017 at 2:05 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: "At December 23, 2017 at 9:55 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Lesley". Your comments are a headache to read. I know this isn't an English class, but it would be appreciated if you used some punctuation. If Kirsten gave Bernadette a hard time, where is the proof? Why didn't Bernadette give any examples? Why didn't she give a proper answer as to why she killed Kirsten?"

People like that will never give you a proper answer. Those people do not want to deal with the known facts, they choose to live in denial so they can continue to whine. I totally agree with you that Bernadette never gave any examples, clearly Bernadette had none to give. The facts are indisputable that Bernadette's motive was jealousy and a twisted sense of inadequacy. Bernadette was ungrateful, never satisfied and left her best friend behind without blinking an eye in her attempts to climb the social ladder.
At December 25, 2017 at 7:28 PM , Anonymous said...: Very well put, Anonymous above. I agree. I hope you are having a happy Christmas.
At December 25, 2017 at 11:45 PM , Anonymous said...: RE:- "At December 25, 2017 at 7:28 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Very well put, Anonymous above. I agree. I hope you are having a happy Christmas."

Thank you! Merry Christmas to you and your family! ((Hugs))
At December 26, 2017 at 9:12 AM , Anonymous said...: To Unknown, Dec 23, 9:52 a.m: Are you retarded?
At December 27, 2017 at 12:21 PM , Anonymous said...: I wouldn't use the word "retard", but there is defenitely something wrong with Stephanie.
At March 14, 2018 at 1:40 AM , Anonymous said...: I can't believe I read most of this drivel before finding a reply section lmmfao. Christianity is about mercy and forgiveness. The end. If you can't do either and instead choose to target someone in hopes of ruining their life etc, you're actually the problem and in fact not very Christian if that's your claim. You make this Bernadette person seem sane in comparison. That is all. No, this isn't a fake account, I just watched "Death of A Cheerleader" and started investigating what happen after it ended. I do feel bad that someone was murdered but like the trial proved. Bernadette was not in her right mind when it occurred. It wasn't premeditated by any means. Intent had way more to do with law than public opinion seems to now. I imagine now it be a shit storm, and I'm grateful I stumbled onto this blog so you could help me see I would have been right. You have a lot of soul searching to do yourself, before you go around making harsh judgments on others.
At March 14, 2018 at 7:49 PM , Karen : ) said...: Whether you are a new poster or not, similar comments like yours have been posted and answered numerous times. Just scroll through the comments for your answers because I'm not going to continue repeating myself. There is nothing wrong with a difference in opinion and I would have been open to a civil debate with you. However, your comment was clearly written with the intent to provoke and I'm not entertaining that nonsense. That is all. Have a good day.
At March 19, 2018 at 6:50 AM , Anonymous said...: Karma will bite each one of you judgmental harpies right in the ass. Have an awesome day.
At March 22, 2018 at 5:51 PM , Unknown said...: This is straight crazy, stalker shit...she served her time, made a mistake that she did as a teen and have to live with for the rest of her life. Why pretend this is about dedicating this page to Kirsten?
At March 22, 2018 at 5:58 PM , Karen : ) said...: March 19th,

You can name call all you like, but it just makes you look like an adult child whose mentality hasn't progressed past adolescence. I will have a nice day. I hope you have one, too.
At March 22, 2018 at 6:41 PM , Karen : ) said...: Melissa,

There is nothing wrong with a difference in opinion and your comment has been answered numerous times, which I'm sure you have read, so did you come here just to call names? I'm open for a civil discussion, but if you have come here just to call people names who have sympathy for Kirsten's heinous murder, you are in no position to judge anyone else.

Locking your car keys in your car or washing colours with whites is a mistake, not brutally butchering someone to death. Bernadette could also block it from her mind easily (her words). She could discuss Kirsten's murder in class with Kirsten's friends. She took a walk with her mother shortly after Kirsten's murder and nothing strange was reported about her behaviour. She was also described as her "usual smiley self" in the 6 months after Kirsten's murder and the FBI agent that interviewed her reported that she felt only remorse for herself and not Kirsten, so I'm not so sure she is feeling the effects of Kirsten's murder, especially when she has alluded to Kirsten's murder in a joking manner on her FB page.
At March 26, 2018 at 8:15 AM , Anonymous said...: I wonder what the Costas family thinks of this forum. When they read some of the childish hatred spewed here, do they feel their daughter is "honored"?
At March 26, 2018 at 8:28 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous.
Should I be ashamed of what I have written? What "childish hatred" have I spewed? Seriously, I want you to point it out. If you're challenging me (if that's what this is) please give examples.
At March 27, 2018 at 2:26 PM , Soupeas said...: I have watched and read and listened... Sounds to me like Kirsten was like many of the children today. A mean spirited torturer who got off on her popularity. Bernadette served her time and this whole page is nullshit but hey keep the hate going because who knows it might inspire others to get fed up too. Pathetic, any who support this crap. Good Luck to Bernadette and her family I hope they have more than enough money to avoid people like you.
At March 28, 2018 at 6:52 PM , Anonymous said...: I don't agree with your characterization of Kristen, but your observations about this blog and the people who support it are spot on.
At March 28, 2018 at 7:02 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

Are the Anonymous that I attempted to have a debate with a few months ago? Do you think I'm hateful?
At March 28, 2018 at 7:06 PM , Karen : ) said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At March 28, 2018 at 7:20 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Soupeas,

Your description of Kirsten has been proven to be wrong. If you want to insult people who post on this blog(like me), knock yourself out. It will get you nowhere, though. I don't know why an adult would insult Kirsten. It's cruel. Being weirded out by someone who lured you out of your house and then drove you to an empty car park at night is not justification for murder.
At March 28, 2018 at 7:56 PM , Karen : ) said...: Sorry for the multiple posts.

I've asked people a couple of times to please give me examples of why they think I'm "hateful" or why I should be ashamed of what I have written, or why this or why that ... etc, but no one has given examples. I've said this a number of times, but I am open to a civil discussion. I'm not going to agree that Bernadette was a doe-eyed innocent little lamb, but if you wanted to have a civil discussion, I can listen to (read) your opinions about Bernadette without judgement. I don't regret responding to people who have been cruel about Kirsten and I don't think I have succumbed to the levels of nastiness exhibited by some Bernadette supporters, but I can acknowledge that I could have been less aggressive and sarcasm wasn't necessary. Believe it or not, but I initially didn't intend to post on this blog. I was going to be a silent observer (like I am on most blogs), but I thought the unnecessary levels of cruelty directed towards Kirsten and her parents warranted a response.
At March 28, 2018 at 8:18 PM , Anonymous said...: You would have been better off not commenting on this shit show.
At March 28, 2018 at 9:10 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I don't regret writing comments in support of Kirsten. However, if my comments are considered to be in any way damaging to Kirsten, I would delete them.
At March 29, 2018 at 8:14 AM , Anonymous said...: (New Anonymous here) What you and some others don't seem to understand is that publicly outing a person who served her time for a crime committed as a teenager 30-something years ago is WRONG. It presumes that criminals cannot ever be reformed, that people don't ever change over time, that the sins of the mother deserve to be forever visited upon the family. THAT is the issue -- the outing of this woman who committed a terrible crime as a teen, served her time and quietly moved on with her life. There is nothing noble or just or redemptive in exposing her and her family to the Internet mobs. The blog itself is a hateful piece of work.
At March 31, 2018 at 9:24 PM , Unknown said...: I won't bother with reading the comments but I will say this no the girl shouldn't of been murdered but who are you to judge??? God is the finally judge and all I see are people bad mouthing and saying that what's her name she be murdered too is this the type of society we live in now!!!!
At March 31, 2018 at 9:37 PM , Anonymous said...: Yeah... murderers should be judge. If society didn't judge them, they wouldn't be jailed and would be free to do what they liked. If you didn't read the comments, why would you speculate that people are calling for Bernadette/Jeannette to be killed? There is enough nonsense being spouted by ignorant adults on this blog, so why make things up?
At April 2, 2018 at 11:53 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi Purple Haze. I haven't written on here in a while and I'm saddened to see all the negative comments towards this blog and some towards you. It is very sad that there are too many people who just refuse to acknowledge the facts of this case. When I first saw this blog a long time ago - I thought it was very honorable to see that there are people who go by the facts of the case - unlike the movie. It's very good that there are people who are intelligent enough to comprehend the facts and stick up for the victim which is Kirsten. As for the others who post otherwise on here in support of Bernadette - well those kind of people are a dime a dozen, so seeing support for Kirsten is so important especially when there is a movie about this which portrays the victim (Kirsten) as a villian. This blog has put forth factual data and links about the facts of this case that are indisputable. It's a shame that the negative comments don't focus on the facts but instead they worry about Bernadette - I can't understand that mentality. As for Bernadette's family well that was Bernadette's choice to have children and a husband- she knew she was a murderer so did she really expect that everyone just forget Kirsten??? I have to shake my head at the irony of the comments in support of Bernadette - now THAT is truly a sad & scary reflection of the lack of empathy for Kirsten. This blog put forth indisputable facts of this case - people should try to be mature enough to read them, comprehend them and have a discussion. The Bernadette supporters seem unable to do so. If Kirstwn had been their daughter perhaps they would feel differently but its hard to say since they seem to lack empathy.
At April 3, 2018 at 12:36 AM , Anonymous said...: If you had bothered to go through all of the comments on here, you would have seen so much more than just the opinions of others - you would have seen links to FACTUAL DATA that supports Kirsten as the victim of Bernadette. There is NO data that supports Bernadette's claims of being bullied. The FACTS do show that Bernadette was jealous, insecure, lacking in remorse and was actually thriving in the 6 months after the murder she committed until she realized the gig was up. In spite of her claims to be an alleged religious or Christian person - the facts support that Bernadette wss quite the contrary. This crime had been in the newspapers and the information on the facts can be found about this public case. It is individuals such as yourself that disparage this blog and disrespect the life that Kirsten had viciously been ripped out of by Bernadette. You make absolutely no sense in losting what you did.
At April 3, 2018 at 12:41 AM , Anonymous said...: SO SORRY - this comment was in reply to UNKNOWN MARCH 31ST 2018 AT 9:24 PM and not to you anonymous april 3rd at 12:36 am
At April 3, 2018 at 12:46 AM , Anonymous said...: Ugh typing on phone and hit wrong reply anonymous march 31st at 9:37 pm I was directing my comment to UNKNOWN AT MARCH 31ST 2018 at 9:24 pm
At April 3, 2018 at 1:10 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: March 14, 2018 at 1:40 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
I can't believe I read most of this drivel before finding a reply section lmmfao. Christianity is about mercy and forgiveness. The end. If you can't do either and instead choose to target someone in hopes of ruining their life etc, you're actually the problem and in fact not very Christian if that's your claim. You make this Bernadette person seem sane in comparison. That is all. No, this isn't a fake account, I just watched "Death of A Cheerleader" and started investigating what happen after it ended. I do feel bad that someone was murdered but like the trial proved. Bernadette was not in her right mind when it occurred. It wasn't premeditated by any means. Intent had way more to do with law than public opinion seems to now. I imagine now it be a shit storm, and I'm grateful I stumbled onto this blog so you could help me see I would have been right. You have a lot of soul searching to do yourself, before you go around making harsh judgments on others.-----------

** WHERE did you get your facts from? Also, nothing about this is funny - murder is serious and horrible. If all is forgiven in Christianity then why is there a hell? If you or anyone needs religion to be a good person they you are already BAD. Please spare us the religious diatribe on forgiveness - don't abuse religion by using it as an excuse for a murderer, there is accountability as a result of one's actions in THIS life. Your post makes no sense and you are making harsh judgement of others so what is your point? If you would take the time to go through this blog you would find FACTS about this case via the links to legitimate sources, they are sprinkled throughout this blog. Why focus on just opinions that are on here? Get the facts that are on here. Perhaps you might see things differently. I can't understand how some individuals come on this blog, leaving a post that makes no other point other than to show their lack of empathy or to show what hypocrites they are. So sad. Focus on the facts, not creating drama.
At April 3, 2018 at 1:17 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: At March 31, 2018 at 9:24 PM , Blogger Unknown said...
I won't bother with reading the comments but I will say this no the girl shouldn't of been murdered but who are you to judge??? God is the finally judge and all I see are people bad mouthing and saying that what's her name she be murdered too is this the type of society we live in now!!!!*********

Your comment made no sense so in any way so whoever you are, I truly hope that you are alright.
At April 3, 2018 at 1:35 AM , Anonymous said...: RE: t March 22, 2018 at 5:51 PM , Blogger Melissa Sistrunk said...
This is straight crazy, stalker shit...she served her time, made a mistake that she did as a teen and have to live with for the rest of her life. Why pretend this is about dedicating this page to Kirsten?-----------

The movie death of a cheerleader has been playing for years. Throughout this blog are links to reputable sources and resources of undisputed FACTS about this case unlike the lies that the movie perpetuates and too many people thinking that this movie is factual when it is not. This blog provides the links to the facts which is great since the movie is based on the "opinion" of one man from a Rolling Stone article. If people had more empathy and were more mature there would be more mature discussion on this case - however because anyone can post their thoughts freely on here, sadly the links to the facts get buried amidst all the comments- but they are sprinkled throughout this blog for anyone who wishes to know the facts/truth. Some people come here for the facts and others come here to create drama. When you say that Bernadette made a mistake, etc... Imagine if that were your child and someone were to tell you those words that you are saying here - how would YOU feel? So why post what you did?
At April 3, 2018 at 1:05 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: "t March 29, 2018 at 8:14 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
(New Anonymous here) What you and some others don't seem to understand is that publicly outing a person who served her time for a crime committed as a teenager 30-something years ago is WRONG. It presumes that criminals cannot ever be reformed, that people don't ever change over time, that the sins of the mother deserve to be forever visited upon the family. THAT is the issue -- the outing of this woman who committed a terrible crime as a teen, served her time and quietly moved on with her life. There is nothing noble or just or redemptive in exposing her and her family to the Internet mobs. The blog itself is a hateful piece of work."-----

Read the other comments I recently posted. Bernadette may have changed her name but no matter what name she goes by - it can never bring Kirsten back or change the fact that Bernadette murdered her in a heinous way for no reason other than her own jealousy and desires to be more and have more. To say Bernadette moved on quietly with her life is ridiculous when she made herself VERY public with all of her blogs on social media. How is it that you are concerned with Bernadette's having to forever live with what she did following her yet have not expressed empathy for Kirsten and Kirsten's family? Kirsten's family are the ones who have to live with this forever - do you think that time took away all of their pain and that they are over it? Kirsten is a human being and irreplaceable. The ignorance of lack of empathy by posters such as yourself is what is ugly on this blog.
At April 3, 2018 at 1:46 PM , Anonymous said...: What Bernadette did was not a mistake - it was Murder. To those who think Bernadette did not form intent - think again. Here are some FACTS with the links:

"Malice aforethought" means the killer "with wanton disregard for human life, does an act that involves a high degree of probability that it will result in death."

Murder can be charged as "first-degree" or "second-degree." First-degree murder generally carries a sentence of 25 years to life in state prison. First-degree murder may be charged when the killing:

is accomplished by means of a destructive device, weapon of mass destruction, armor-piercing ammunition, poison, lying in wait, or torture; or
is done in a way that is willful, deliberate and premeditated; or

https://www.shouselaw.com/murder.html

Bernadette had an 18" knife! Bernadette had to make a conscious thought to not only take the knife and put it in her hand before exiting her vehicle, Bernadette then had to decide to exit her car while holding that 18" knife and choose to approach Kirsten with it and just started stabbing her with this 18" knife. She stabber her over and over and over and Bernadette had no clue that this 18" knife would cause such brutal harm and death?? Of course she did! Bernadette also had the presence of mind to immediately flee the scene of her heinous murder, instead of immediately seeking had help for Kirsten. Bernadette also had the presence of mind to hide her crime immediately afterward and continued to do so for 6 months until the FBI knew it was her - only then was Bernadette forced to admit it because she knew the gig was up. There is no proof that Bernadette would have ever told the truth about what she had done had she not been caught. To attend her funeral, see her family and discuss the murder and to let others be blamed is beyond heinous - it speaks of an individual who is dangerous and highly deceptive without remorse. Bernadette was old enough to know right from wrong and because of these facts I have no reason to believe that this leopard has ever changed her spots regardless of how much time goes by.
At April 3, 2018 at 2:19 PM , Anonymous said...: CONTINUED:

Bernadette's lawyers did not put forth an insanity defense, or a self defense or a I made a mistake defense theory or even a I was bullied defense. They can not put forth a defense they can not prove.

The only thing Bernadette was worried about was getting caught - she even says so in her own words when she had said that was waiting for the police to come to arrest her. Yes it makes sense that anyone would be afraid after but NO it makes no sense that there was no proof of remorse other than being caught.

It is very sad and horrible to realize that any kid could be so bad as to lack remorse after committing such a brutal, heinous crime and people do not like to accept that fact. But that is the reality - some kids/people are just no good, they are bad and do the unthinkable - such as Bernadette is. To downplay it by using the passing of time or calling it a mistake is an insult to everyone with any common sense and the ability to have empathy.

In my humble opinion it would have been better if Bernadette had not changed her name, and put herself all over the social media - she should have lived out of the public eye, (people are not going to forget Kirsten just so Bernadette can feel better) and Bernadette should have not run from her crime but owned it and showed humility and true remorse - she has no control over what other people will think of her and she has to live with that. Again she seeks approval by presenting herself as someone she is not, meaning she is not just some woman trying to live her life who never hurt anyone. Bernadette continues her deception.

People have a right to know that a murder is among them. What person in their right mind would like to find out that they have hired someone to watch their children or allowed their children to play at a house of someone who is a murderer? I hope one day that murderers will have to register so we can know who they are for our own safety and to better protect our children.
At April 3, 2018 at 11:43 PM , Anonymous said...: Thank you for taking the time to publish those comments in defence of Kirsten. You have made excellent points.
At April 4, 2018 at 12:16 AM , Anonymous said...: Thank you. I just hope more people will read the facts contained within this blog.
At April 4, 2018 at 11:57 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I hope you are well.

“I can’t understand that mentality”

Those who refuse to read clear facts or examples about the case, or are unable to differentiate a movie from fact (even though the movie states that it’s *inspired * by a true story and *certain events and conversations are dramatised*, yet people treat it as a documentary) reminds me a little of the Donald Trump detractors. I don’t support Trump (or Hillary and I couldn’t care less if you or anyone else does) and I’m reluctant to mention his name as it is often irrelevantly mentioned in different topics, but the black and white thinking exhibited by quite a few who oppose him, for ex: (“you support Trump, therefore you are a racist and hate immigrants”) is reminiscent of some of the Bernadette supporters that post here. People who engage in that sort of binary thinking can be difficult to converse with. Bernadette supporter: “You don’t see Bernadette as a victim of Kirsten, therefor you are a bully”. "You think Bernadette committed a heinous murder and you express your sympathy for the pain and suffering she subjected Kirsten to, therefore you are hateful or a stalker”. “The movie told me that the character based on Kirsten was unpleasant with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, therefore it must be true……because it was on the TV”.

“Did she really expect everyone to just forget Kirsten”

Yeah. It looks that way, hence her blog entry about people not reminding others of “past mistakes”.

“If Kirsten had been their daughter perhaps they would feel differently”

I think some certainly would, yes. The thought of your child being attacked from behind because she was freaked out by another person’s needy behaviour (judging from Bernadette’s account of what happened, it looks like she was sickly obsessed with Kirsten and tried to insert herself into Kirsten’s life) and stabbed her in the neck (which hit a carotid artery), stabbed her in the stomach twice, stabbed her in the arm, and stabbed and sliced two great big two foot wounds down the back, which lacerated organs should logically appeal to people’s morality. However, some people appear to identify so strongly with the character Bernadette was based on due to their own difficult experiences and they project their own negative experiences onto Kirsten. Other people probably get so caught up in the illusions that the movie is spinning because TV is after all the best propaganda force in the world where lots of nonsense is peddled for truth. It’s also possible that some don’t have the capacity to empathise with Kirsten, either due to their age or something else.

The only member of Bernadette’s family that has been mentioned is the sister that said on the stand that she “might” have left the large knife in the car to cut fruit and veg for lunch. Her evasiveness was obviously going to attract criticism and I don’t know why that’s difficult for some people (you, "New Anonymous”) to understand.

Some people seem to be very sure that Bernadette is remorseful. Okay, if that’s the case what does it suggest about a person who refers to herself as a “life hacker” or alludes to her murder victim’s murder in a mocking manner on her Facebook page? I would like to read their thoughts about that.

I thought your comments made very good points. You often mention things that I forget to write or articulate points in a way that I can't.
At April 9, 2018 at 12:59 AM , Anonymous said...: I feel bad for everyone,Bernadette and Kirsten.
At April 11, 2018 at 7:51 PM , Anonymous said...: I don't feel bad for Bernadette once she murdered Kirsten. Bernadette coveted everything that Kirsten represented - and Bernadette even told that to the police. It is hard to feel bad for Bernadette when she murdered Kirsten for having things that Bernadette wanted. Kirsten was a just a kid too, and she had no control over her lifestyle which was provided for her by her parents.
At April 13, 2018 at 12:21 AM , Anonymous said...: Bernadette was almost 17 years old when the true nature of who she truly is as a person and her brutality within stole Kirsten's life in such a beinous way. Bernadette is a walking time bomb and one of those people who are just BAD. All that religious talk is so creepy considering what she did and the remarks on her social media (they are mentioned in this blog already). I think that religious utterances by her are like that saying tbou doust protest too much! She is one of "those" alleged religious people who creep me out! Not because of a religion but the fact that her talk does not match her walk making Bernadette even less of a human (in ways that actually matter). The fact that Bernadette and her sister who lied about the knife are doing so well is proof of their lack of humility.
At April 13, 2018 at 12:36 AM , Anonymous said...: Clearly Bernatte and Virginia don't have morals - it is still about appearances and materialistic thigs. TO THOSE WHO SAY SHE DID HER TIME, GET OVER IT, etc... Then why did Bernadette change her name and try to hide what she did???? You people who spew that stupidity and lack of empathy lack the intelligent resources to not only grasp the truth of what she did and why- but you individuals who say such things are showing utter disrespect for Kirsten and her mother, father and brother. Shame on you!
At April 13, 2018 at 6:24 PM , Anonymous said...: I think Bernadette is very scary. I wonder if anyone near her knows about her past? I would be frightened if she lived near me.
At April 13, 2018 at 7:30 PM , Anonymous said...: You have nothing to worry about. Just don't call her weird and turn your back to her and you will be fine.
At April 14, 2018 at 7:30 PM , Anonymous said...: It has been mentioned by someoneoon this blog that Bernadette might have sexually assaulted Kirsten. That's a disturbing thought. Poor Kirsten.
At April 16, 2018 at 5:12 AM , Anonymous said...: The last five "Anonymous" posts are clearly from the same person talking to herself. Sad!
At April 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM , Anonymous said...: TO : At April 16, 2018 at 5:12 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
The last five "Anonymous" posts are clearly from the same person talking to herself. Sad!
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I wrote this one and some before it (see below) but I did NOT write the last 4 posts. Why don't you put the empathy where it belongs on Kirsten and her family. Why come here for no reason other than to show how you lack empathy?
I wrote this and some before it:
At April 13, 2018 at 12:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
Clearly Bernatte and Virginia don't have morals - it is still about appearances and materialistic thigs. TO THOSE WHO SAY SHE DID HER TIME, GET OVER IT, etc... Then why did Bernadette change her name and try to hide what she did???? You people who spew that stupidity and lack of empathy lack the intelligent resources to not only grasp the truth of what she did and why- but you individuals who say such things are showing utter disrespect for Kirsten and her mother, father and brother. Shame on you!
At April 16, 2018 at 4:54 PM , Anonymous said...: HI again, Anonymous.
I do think multiple posts by the same person is irritating. Why don't you point out how you think one person is posting multiple comments to themselves?

You also come across as sad. You hate this blog, but continue to come back. You tell people to shut the fuck up, you continue to come back to this blog to write petulant comments or support those who criticise Kirsten. You are so certain that Bernadette feels remorse or continues to feel remorse, eventhough her behaviour has suggested otherwise and you apparently don't know her personally to make the statement that she feels remorse today, yet you seem so certain of it.

Your personal investment in Bernadette is curious for a stranger and if you're going to write nonsense about a person posting numerous comments just because they write under Anonymous, I will start calling you Bernadette. I wrote the two comments above yours. From reading another posters (Tracy b) comments on this forum, I unfortunately do think it is possible that Bernadette might have done something to Kirsten if she was under the influence of something. If someone butchers someone else to death for no justifiable reason, they are capable of anything.

I was joking about "not turning ones back to Bernadette", but I suppose I really wouldn't if I knew her.
At April 16, 2018 at 4:57 PM , Anonymous said...: I can't always be bothered to sign in. You know who I am. My comment was to Anonymous 5:12 am.
At April 17, 2018 at 7:16 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi Anonymous, Do you recall the approximate date of Tracy B.'s comment regarding what you said? I believe you saw it - I just don't recall seeing it. It would certainly clarify why poor Kirsten ran from Bernadette's car - what a monster that Bernadette is.
At April 17, 2018 at 11:36 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi.

Tracy B's comments are under the "Happy Belated Birthday Kirsten' article on the second page.
At April 18, 2018 at 11:26 PM , Anonymous said...: I had, at one point, read all the comments on this blog - that was a while ago so thank you for telling me where Tracy B.'s comment(s) were. Tracy B. had made a lot of points and asked some really good questions. I agree that Bernadette had premeditated this murder while Kirsten was away at cheerleading camp. I am not quite sure what Tracy B. was wondering at times, for example: If Kirsten and Bernadette had been friends or friendly (as in got along well enough but were not close) then what changed that? I had the impression that Bernadette was more like someone "just in the group" of friends that Kirsten had (Bobbies included) rather than an actual friend of Kirsten. Also, and forgive me if I am wrong, - but is Tracy B. suggesting the possibility of perhaps some prior interaction between Bernadette and Kirsten of a curious/sexual nature? I'm not sure if that is what Tracy B. meant to imply or not. Tracy B. did make an excellent point when she stated how Bernadette planned the murder ahead of time yet Bernadette had also called other Bobbies. This is a very curious thing indeed - but I always just thought that just like Bernadette knew Kirsten was away at camp, that she knew the girls that she called would also be unavailable (?) I don't get the focus/questions about the Bobbies and possible other elements of the crime were thwarted?? Message to the Bobbies?? I don't understand what Tracy B. meant by some of these comments. If it's true that Kirsten was so popular - I can't imagine any of the Bobbies who were Kirsten's friends, being involved in anything against Kirsten or remaining silent about something if they were aware of it. As for some kind of message Bernadette would be sending the Bobbies - what could that possibly be and what would be the reason? Reading Tracy B.'s comments (again) made me wonder if perhaps Bernadette's true colors slipped out at times and was a turn off to the girls in the Bobbies and that Bernadette was possibly starting to get excluded from things by the Bobbies? I do not know. No question Bernadette planned something that night she lured poor Kirsten out - I guess we will never truly know exactly what happened because I doubt Bernadette would ever step up and tell the truth. Maybe Bernadette singled Kirsten out to strike out at the Bobbies as a whole in a warped sense of jealousy and getting even?? Like Bernadette said, Kirsten represented all the things she was not and did not have. Bernadette had acted out when she was in juvenile facility - so I think it is very possible that Kirsten and the other girls might have seen of glimpse of Bernadette's true colors (but did not realize just how dark and bad she is).
At April 18, 2018 at 11:36 PM , Anonymous said...: Also - if they were in the car together for 40 mins. (I can't imagine Bernadette had parked in front of anyone's house and it took time for Kirsten to have walked to someone's house, ring the bell, talk to them and then be driven home so were they together that long in the car?), and at first when Kirsten fled she wasn't as fearful at first. Some of Tracy B.'s comments really started me re-thinking some of this such as I had already mentioned in the comment above. Personally, I would think that if Bernadette had sexually molested Kirsten that one would think Kirsten would have been more upset... I would not be surprised if Bernadette had tried to put the moves on Kirsten and Kirsten rejected her and immediately left the car.
At June 11, 2018 at 6:46 PM , Anonymous said...: I think the website like this is not going to go away. It is simply the outcome of choice Bernadette made long ago. Her new ID will be found no matter how many times Bernadette changes her name. She can still live her life but she cannot have a life as though she never committed murder because she did. Irreversible actions creates irreverible consequences. I would say it's kind of poetic justice.
At June 12, 2018 at 11:26 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

That's true. Bernadette's name was available online before this website and would still be available online if this blog wasn't created. Her name will continue to be online for as long as the internet exists.
At June 16, 2018 at 12:12 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: Dumbest sh!t I've ever read: "She should have thought about that before she "murdered" Kirsten".
It wasn't premeditated, first of all.
Secondly this Kirsten girl sounds like a spoiled "queen bee" type bitch.
No one deserves to die, but you know what, no one deserves to have to feel like crap thanks to a shitty bully who gets their kicks out of putting other people down.
Maybe Kirsten "should have thought" about the consequences of her actions before being an asshole!
At June 19, 2018 at 1:40 AM , Anonymous said...: Bernadette was a lesbo who had a crush on Kirsten
At June 23, 2018 at 5:10 PM , Karen : ) said...: It's Kirstens anniversary today. May she RIP. May her loved ones focus on the good times and how she enriched their lives.

Tbh, I really don't know if I could live with myself if I was Bernadette. I feel bad if I accidently step on a snail, so selfish ly and cruelly taking the life of another would never leave my thoughts. I would probably get a serious disease over the guilt.
At June 26, 2018 at 10:42 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: June 23, 2018 at 5:10 PM , Blogger Purple haze

That is because you are a decent human being with a moral compass, compassion, empathy and respect for another person's life. Bernadette will never be any of these things. Bernadette chose one of the worst things to ever do to another human being and she can never change that, her supporters can never change that - those are the facts and they will have to live with it FOREVER.
At June 27, 2018 at 10:50 AM , Karen : ) said...: Thanks Anonymous.

She supposedly has a conscience, but surely someone with a conscience wouldn't kill an innocent human being and then go on like nothing happened. I know there are disorders where people can detach and hurt serious hurt someone if they are attacked (abused wife killing abusive husband) but Bernadette was the aggressor here. She followed Kirsten to the stranger's house, she followed Kirsten home and she got out of her car and followed Kirsten to Kirsten's neighbours house and subjected her to a brutal stabbing attack.

The thought of Kirsten's screams of pain and horror as Bernadette sliced and stabbed her would plague my thoughts for the rest of my life. I would seriously be driven crazy over the guilt.
At June 27, 2018 at 11:05 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Actually it has been reported that Kirsten made fun of an outfit that Bernadette was wearing on a ski trip.... So there's that!
At June 27, 2018 at 11:22 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: People can be out for themselves and it doesn't make them "nice". Just because you get in someone's car that you don't like doesn't make you "nice". She could have gotten in the car for a variety of reasons that had absolutely NOTHING to do with being nice.
What strikes me about all of your rhetoric in all of your responses is how you internalize this specific case as being so personal for you. Do you know any of these people? Where you a personal witness to ANY of these interactions? I don't think so.
A young girl messed up. You don't know her life. There are things people do in the heat of the moment they INSTANTLY regret. You don't know that Bernadette "butchered" anyone. And until you have experienced the type of rage associated with repressing a response to bullying then all you're doing is ranting on a subject you know nothing about. We as humans are taught to behave a certain way, yet when those around us don't act that way and we react negatively to it, then all of a sudden our reaction makes us the "bad guy" when in fact the other person is the catalyst of that reaction.
So until you've had to hold back, time after time of someone being sh!tty to you, and then finally snap when you're not rational anymore, keep your opinions to yourself!
You don't know how scary it is to get in a zone that isn't you. To do and or say things that you normally wouldn't yet don't really have control over, only to look back on the situation after the fact and say to yourself, "What did you just do?"
At June 27, 2018 at 11:22 PM , Anonymous said...: She made one thoughtless comment about Bernadette's skis. ONCE. Sometimes teenagers say foolish things that they shouldn't. There was no other incident. One comment doesn't justify murder. Judging from your behavior, you come across like a stupid ignorant cunt, so does that mean you should be killed?
At June 27, 2018 at 11:41 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Well since I at no point in time used VULGARITY then I'd say I'm notvthe ignorant one here "Anonymous".
This whole blog is nothing but a sounding board for people who were not involved with the situation at all and want to support an obvious spoiled brat (Kirsten) who got her kicks putting other people down/making them feel like crap because they weren't as entitled and spoiled as her.
Bernadette was a CHILD who made a mistake and has since paid for it.
Whether or not she is a true Christian or not is no one's business. That is between her and her higher power. If she uses that as a shield and is not genuine about it she'll suffer the consequences of her actions when she's judged by the only true judge.
Anyone who doesn't look at the situation as a WHOLE and both sides of what possibly happened and conclude that the entire situation was a tragedy needs to have their head examined. So the pain in the ass bully didn't get a chance to grow up and see the error of her ways but the one with the mental health issues did, doesn't make either better or worse. It makes ot a situation where 2 humans were flawed and now one has to live and deal with that flaw for the rest of her life. None of you know her life (including me!) to say what she should and should not be feeling.
As far as whether or not I should be killed ask yourself the same question because I'm not the one insulting strangers on some random blog!
BTW I'm also not the one hiding behind an "anonymous" moniker!
At July 9, 2018 at 3:56 AM , Unknown said...: It's clear Bernadette is still being bullied. It is not just words which hurt. Being ignored, never included, never asked to walk home, stop for a soda, going shopping, etc. Is a form of bullying. Clearly Kirsten only accepted those in her elite social circle. She felt Bernadette was not her social equal.
At July 9, 2018 at 6:16 AM , Karen : ) said...: "it's not just words that hurt"

What? It was never implied that Kirsten physically bullied Bernadette. Kirsten was described as a skinny, petite girl and Bernadette was described as "heavy set" and tall, so logically Bernadette would have overpowered Kirsten physically, like she did the night she murdered her.

So..instead of giving tangible examples of Kirsten bullying Bernadette, you make up nonsense about "not getting a soda" or "walking home alone".
At July 9, 2018 at 5:16 PM , Unknown said...: Unless you hesrd it from the husband, you didn't hear anything. What legitimate statistics and/or polls says Bernadette is one of the most hated women in America. You need to back up what you say.
At July 9, 2018 at 5:19 PM , Unknown said...: What gives you the right to judge who is psycho?
At July 9, 2018 at 5:27 PM , Unknown said...: Do you have children?
Would that it happens to them.
At July 9, 2018 at 5:39 PM , Karen : ) said...: Instead of backing up your comments with examples or facts, you have made nonsense up.

Most hated woman in America? That is another example of you making up nonsense.

Your multiple posts of drivel are coming across like Stephanie. It was clear you were a troll by the nonsense you made up about Bernadette's bullying (walikg home alone, she had no one to have a soda with. .. Etc). You are obviously here for shits and giggles.
At July 9, 2018 at 6:54 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Purple haze and what are you here for?
To put bullies on a platform? By your own account you're a third party just obsessed with the story. You didn't intimately know either of these girls so why are you sh!tting all over someone you don't know and their journey?
At July 9, 2018 at 9:14 PM , Karen : ) said...: 1.

Girl,

What am I here for?

I answer people who address me in the comments. I point our simple facts of the case, especially when people appear to have difficulty separating a movie from fact and wet themselves with glee over Kirsten's murder. What do you care if I write a comment on this barely active blog?

What bully am I putting on a platform and can you point out REAL examples of bullying in this case? This is something Bernadette failed to do in court, so I'm interested in reading your examples.

Do you consider it obsessive to feel empathy for another human being who was cruelly murdered? It is a natural human response to a horrific murder and fortunately something that a lot of people in society also have the ability to feel, otherwise murderers would be running amok in society. Is it obsessive to point out facts of the case in an attempt to encourage someone else to use critical thought?

"Why are you shitting over someone you don't know and their journey?"

What "journey" would that be? The fact that I feel sympathy for Kirsten who was brutally murdered by Bernadette -- a mentally unhinged person who blamed Kirsten for her own failures and inadequacies-- is considered by you to be shitting on Bernadette and her journey? Is horror and disgust for other murderers considered to be shitting on their journey too? Do I have to know a murderer to think what they did was unacceptable?

I cant believe I'm actually expected to explain why I think a brutal murder is wrong.

Bernadette concocted a plan to get Kirsten out of her house under false pretences and it appears that Kirsten got annoyed when she discovered the lengths Bernadette went to to get her alone. Do you really think it's acceptable to lure someone out of their house under false pretences by someone they don't know very well and then expect a positive reaction when your lie is discovered? Whatever happened in Bernadette's car frightened Kirsten enough that she fled to the house of a stranger. Kirsten ran from Bernadette's car and wanted to be left alone, yet Bernadette stalked Kirsten to the stranger's house, then stalked her to Kirsten's house and brutally killed her on her neighbour's porch. She attacked Kirsten from behind as she was frantically banging on her neighbour's door. That is not justification for murder. Her nonchalant behaviour after she killed Kirsten was very eerie, such as the ability to discuss Kirsten's murder with Kirsten's friends in class and watch on as innocent girls were accused of Kirsten's murder.
At July 9, 2018 at 9:15 PM , Karen : ) said...: 2.

Does one comment about skis equate to bullying? Everyone (including Bernadette) has made a thoughtless comment to someone else in their teen years. It doesn't justify murder. Tbh, from the way you portray yourself as an adult, I can only imagine how ignorant and insensitive you were as a child.

I have an example of a real bully:

When I was a teenager, there was a guy that would constantly terrorise people. He was well known in our small town of 70,000 people. He liked to push his weight around because he was from a large gypsy (Caucasian gypsy, not roma gypsy) family (with dangerous members) and minors were generally cautioned by the police up until a certain age in my country, so the guy got away with a lot.

One of the things he liked to do was tell someone to give him a cigarette and if they said "no", he would tell them to "stand for search" and proceed to search people. If you were female, he would touch you in inappropriate places during his "search" and if you protested, he would either hold a bicycle chain to your face with the threat of beating your face in with it, or hold a small hammer to your head with the threat of cracking your skull with it. Sometimes he threatened with a knife. He was a stupid, violent and unhinged, so people thought he was crazy enough to carry out his threats. If he discovered you were lying about having cigarettes, he would punch you in the face (at the very least) for lying and rob your cigarettes and whatever money you had.

I crossed paths with him one day and refused to give him a cigarette and refused to let him search me, so he roughed me up. He roughed me up badly enough that I was urinating blood days after the beating. I didn't tell my parents the guy was responsible (I told them I was jumped by people I didn't know) and I didn't go to the police. If I reported the guy to the police, I was concerned about the consequences for my family. At the very least, the guy and some of his siblings would find out where I lived and break the windows in my house and parent's cars. At the worst, I was concerned they would set fire to my house at night while my family was sleeping. I was also concerned about his extended family. Some of his cousins raped a girl I knew. She reported it to the police and the cousins constantly threatened and harassed her that she unfortunately took her own life. She was only 14.
The guy inflicted a lot of stress and pain on a lot of other people. It didn't matter if you were male, female, a seven year old child....he would hurt you.

Do you know what's interesting? Even though he subjected a lot of people to physical and mental abuse..... no one killed him, yet you think it's acceptable that innocuous Kirsten was murdered by Bernadette for.....getting upset when she discovered Bernadette lied to her to get her out of her house alone? The guy has been in and out of jail since he was 17. He is 30 now and very much alive and well and has even reproduced. People were "pushed to their limits" by this guy, yet they still didn't kill him.
At July 9, 2018 at 9:39 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Again, you are going based off of information you know nothing about. If this was a "brutal murder" then the murderer would still be in jail having been found by a judge and or jury of committing premeditated murder instead of what she was actually found guilty of.
This is a case of 2 girls, one who sounds like an entitled spoiled brat (whom I've met plenty of) the type who comes from wealth and looks down upon those who they deign to deal with otherwise be revealed for the snobs they are!
For the adults that are involved in their lives and monitor their behavior they put up a front. However with their peers they're mean and nasty. From the sounds of your "bully", #1 that's a straight criminal sociopath who should have been locked away long ago. Secondly as previously mentioned you are too young to have even been a thought in the minds of your eventual parents when this crime occurred. You're going off a movie and what you've read. Romanticizing an incident you know nothing about and judging others who disagree with you. You seem to think your opinion of my life, "Tbh, from the way you portray yourself as an adult, I can only imagine how ignorant and insensitive you were as a child" means anything to me.
I actually was bullied as a child Thankyouverymuch so I can spot one a mile away. I've never been characterized as insensitive, as far as ignorance goes you sound like lord and emperor of that title so I'll take your word that you know how to spot your own, but in this instance I hate to burst your bubble that's not the case with me honey!
While were throwing stones the way you defend this bully that was killed and how proud you seem that you didn't give a cigarette to a lunatic you sound like you would have been great friends with Kristen standing around in your little queen beehive making fun of the other girls from the wrong side of the track's trying to just get by in high school.
At July 9, 2018 at 11:49 PM , Karen : ) said...: 1.

@ThatGirl,

What information do I know nothing about? I have given FACTUAL examples, which you have continued to ignore. You have failed time and time again to actually give factual examples.

Okay, perhaps attacking someone from behind and subjecting them to a frenzied attack where their diaphragm, lung and liver was sliced, and carotid artery in the neck was punctured isn't considered "brutal" to you, but it is to a logical person with common sense. Bernadette was a minor and under Californian law at the time, she got the maximum sentence for second degree murder.

Why does this look premeditated?
There was a 15-18 inch knife left in the car by Bernadette's sister to supposedly cut veg and fruit. Bernadette brought the knife with her to confront Kirsten and kill her on her neighbour's porch after stalking her for a couple of miles "bumper to bumper". The stranger that drove Kirsten home actually stated that Bernadette was driving so close to his car that she was "riding" his bumper. Instead of returning the knife to the car where it was supposedly kept, Bernadette returned it to the kitchen. The sister gave an evasive answer on the stand when asked about the knife. She wouldn't commit to a "yes" or "no" answer when asked if she really used it to cut vegetables and fruit. Not every perpetrator gets a sufficient sentence and sometimes they get a slap on the wrist, surely that's not something that has escaped you.

"This is a case of 2 girls, one who sounds like an entitled spoiled brat (whom I've met plenty of) , the type that comes from wealth and looks down on those who they deign to deal with otherwise be revealed for the snobs they are"

Kirsten wasn't "wealthy". She was middle class. Also, Bernadette lived in a more affluent area that Kirsten, so what does that tell you? Can you give any examples of Kirsten being a bully or a spoiled brat to Bernadette, or are you going to continue to ignore my questions because you obviously have no examples to give?

"For the adults that are involved in their lives and monitor their behaviour they put up a front. However with their peers they are mean and nasty"

Who? And can you give examples?

The bully I told you about certainly was a piece of work and the law failed society by allowing him to run amok until he was 17.

"You are too young to have even been a thought in the minds of your eventual parents when this crime occurred"

I wasn't born when this crime occurred. So what? That doesn't preclude me from discussing this case. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if I'm older than you.

"Your going off a movie and what you've read"

Unlike you, I've actually given real examples and thought critically about this case. If I had gone off the movie, I would have believed that Kirsten and Bernadette were portrayed accurately in the movie, which I clearly don't and have stated that many times, so saying that I'm "going off a movie" doesn't make sense.
At July 9, 2018 at 11:49 PM , Karen : ) said...: 2.

"Romanticising an incident you know nothing about and judging others who disagree with you"

Please point out what exactly I'm romanticising? The only person romanticising anything here is you. Bernadette was very sick and wrongly killed Kirsten in an unprovoked murder, yet you continue to state that Kirsten bullied Bernadette and can't give examples. You say that Kirsten was wealthy and used her wealth to look down on Bernadette, but in reality she was middle class and Bernadette lived in a more affluent area. You say that Kirsten was spoiled and entitled, yet you can't give examples. Bernadette's problems with jealousy were serious enough that it warranted professional help. She admitted she had an inferiority complex. Her father stated she had jealously issues and that she felt other girls didn't deserve certain things. Bernadette was reported by a mutual friend to have "idolised" Kirsten. You say that Kirsten was entitled and snobby, yet when Bernadette was in the "bob o links", she wanted it to remain "exclusive" and not open for everyone to join. She was able to block a heinous murder out of her mind and go on like nothing happened. She coolly took a walk with her mother after the murder and coolly discussed Kirsten's murder in class with Kirsten's friends. Another thing you fail to grasp is that Bernadette didn't give examples of bullying at her trial, which would have portrayed her as a more sympathetic character and might have strengthened her case and lead to a lesser sentence. If she really was a victim of Kirsten, she would have said so, which is why there is still no clear answer as to why she killed Kirsten.

I don't judge people for disagreeing with me. I judge people who are too lazy to think critically about the case. I judge people who can't differentiate movie characters from real life people. I certainly judge people for gleefully taking pleasure in Kirsten's murder as she was the victim of someone who was jealous and sick.

"I've never been characterised as insensitive"

Do you understand that delighting over the murder of someone else is insensitive?

Yes, I called you ignorant. Why? Because you purport to be knowledgeable about this case, but you make things up, skew information about the case, and when asked countless times to give examples, you fail to do so. There are much worse things to be called than insensitive and ignorant and I'm surprised it bothered you.

I never mentioned or implied that I was proud of "not giving a cigarette to the lunatic". I was sick of his behaviour, stuck up for myself and got a bad ass kicking. I was attempting to compare the innocuous Kirsten to the violent bully.

I don't know why you are assuming I would be the type to make fun of people in high school. I was never like that. If we are talking about Bernadette before she murdered Kirsten, sure I would have spoken to her in school. I would have spoken to Kirsten too. It wouldn't surprise me if I liked both of them.
At July 10, 2018 at 12:25 AM , Karen : ) said...: @that girl,

I wanted to add something that I intended to mention in a previous comment. I may not have been born when Kirsten was murdered, but I was born in the 80's. Your comment about me "being too young" isn't accurate.
At July 10, 2018 at 6:57 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: 2 things "Purple Haze" (BTW I'm using your accurate screen name I'd appreciate you addressing me correctly instead of your lazy attempts thus far of only using "girl" or any combination thereof) and then I am done with you because you're obviously delusional.
#1 I NEVER delighted in anyone's murder. You harp on "examples" give me one example of my "delighting" in anyone's murder?! Bernadette may have lived in a more "affluent" area however her father was the sole wage earner for a family with multiple children. I'd have to look up whether or not the house was actually owned by the family or rented. Also Bernadette was driving a "Pinto" at the time that the muder was committed. The car furthest from any connection whatsoever to "affluence"!
#2 you just admitted "I may not have been born when Kirsten was murdered".... So how is my comment not "accurate".
Contradiction at it's finest.

I had a family member murdered in cold blood, somewhat similar to the way Kristen was killed, so I more than sympathize with the Costas' family's loss.
The difference between the 2 murders (which coincidentally both happened in 1984) is that a judge and jury could not find the malicious intent that you're claiming in your ridiculous tirades.
However in our family's case the murderer was drunk and admitted obsession towards my cousin. He was released after 34 years. Not the 7 that Bernadette waa
Any response to your further posts will be my laughing because you're obviously a sick little girl who is obsessed with a case she knows nothing about and wasn't around when the murder happened and lived nowhere near the incident to remember when it happened and the subsequent aftermath.
I will provide you no examples because you will continue to twist them to fit your narrative.
I remember the case and I remember when the made for TV movie came out and the inaccuracies of certain misrepresentations and the controversy surrounding it.
Go obsess over a different murder trial. Bernadette has paid her dues to society and gotten the help for (by your OWN words) whatever sickness may have lead to her committing the crime that she did. Judge and jury decided her fate based on the facts in 1985 and she waa released by a parole BOARD in 1992. If all those people with FACTS ON THE CASE made the decisions that they made based on those facts who do you think you are or what makes you more qualified to further condemn someone?
At July 11, 2018 at 10:22 AM , Anonymous said...: You're not well. Get some help. God bless.
At July 11, 2018 at 11:12 AM , Anonymous said...: How cute that you are responding to yourself.
At July 12, 2018 at 3:54 AM , Karen : ) said...: THISGIRL956,

“ I'd appreciate you addressing me correctly instead of your lazy attempts thus far of only using "girl" or any combination thereof) and then I am done with you because you're obviously delusional"

I didn't purposely set out to annoy you by writing your blog name wrong and I apologise if you were offended by it. I glanced over your name and the only word that stuck with me was "girl". I couldn't remember if "this" or "that" was in your name and certainly couldn't remember the numbers. Referring to you as “girl” was not done to dismiss you. I don't care if you call me "purple haze" or not. It's not my real name and I don't know you personally, so it's neither here nor there to me whether or not you refer to me as purple haze, some variation of it or something completely different.

"and then I am done with you because you're obviously delusional"

Done with me? That's a shame because I think you're swell. You haven't shown why you think I'm delusional. You've just confirmed that it is you that's delusional. You claim to know all about the case, but I haven't seen any evidence for that, especially when I've asked you for examples countless times (I'm not claiming to be an authority on this case either.)

As for "delighting in Kirsten's murder" , your comments: "No one deserves to die, but you know what, no one deserves to have to feel like crap thanks to a shitty bully who gets their kicks out of putting other people down. Maybe Kirsten "should have thought" about the consequences of her actions before being an asshole!" And "We as humans are taught to behave a certain way, yet when those around us don't act that way and we react negatively to it, then all of a sudden our reaction makes us the "bad guy" when in fact the other person is the catalyst of that reaction." So, you are suggesting that Kirsten was the catalyst to her murder? Maybe "delighting in her murder" was the wrong phrase, but there is a definite air of smugness and nastiness to your comments. You also appear to be very angry and bitter because of your past. I wish you luck in getting treatment for that.

"Any response to your further posts will be my laughing because you're obviously a sick little girl who is obsessed with a case she knows nothing about and wasn't around when the murder happened and lived nowhere near the incident to remember when it happened and the subsequent aftermath."

You can laugh all you like. You are a stranger on the internet, so you laughing at me is neither here nor there to me. I could "laugh" at you too for making a comment that suggests that your mental capacity is on par with an adolescent, but I'm above that. A sick little girl? I suppose that's you're way of attempting to dismiss me because you have failed to refute my points? From reading your comments above, you clearly have serious issues from your bullying experiences that you are taking out on Kirsten and also taking out on me because I don't agree with your assessment of Kirsten or Bernadette. If living during the time of the murder is so important for discussing this case, why haven't you gotten the facts right in the case? I don't know what point you are trying to make by saying I wasn't born when Kirsten was killed. Are you suggesting that I can't or shouldn't have an opinion on this tragic story because I wasn't born when it happened? If so, that line of thought is irrational. Not being born during that time doesn't preclude me from commenting on this case. Or are you saying I'm too young to comment on this case because I wasn't born when Kirsten was killed? That's also irrational. I'm an adult.
At July 12, 2018 at 4:08 AM , Karen : ) said...: 2

You keep saying that I'm "obsessed", but fail to give examples. Is it obsessive to feel sympathy for Kirsten? Is it obsessive to look at this case critically, or respond to people who write to me, or because I don't agree with you, or because I think Bernadette committed a horrific crime and her short sentence doesn't erase that fact?

" you just admitted "I may not have been born when Kirsten was murdered".... So how is my comment not "accurate".
Contradiction at it's finest."

Why didn't you just post the full comment? I wrote: “I may not have been born when Kirsten was murdered, but I was born in the 80's. Your comment about me "being too young" isn't accurate”. I don't exactly know what your point is or how you think I'm contradicting myself. As I wrote above: “Are you suggesting that I can't or shouldn't have an opinion on this tragic story because I wasn’t born when it happened? Or are you saying I'm too young to comment on this case because I wasn't born when Kirsten was killed?

"I will provide you no examples because you will continue to twist them to fit your narrative."

What exactly have I twisted to fit a narrative? You keep accusing of things, but don't provide any examples. You haven't provided examples about Kirsten bullying either even though you claimed she did. If Bernadette couldn’t give examples of bullying at her trial, how can you give examples? You give the impression that you strongly identify with Bernadette, but which one do you identify with? The pitiful, doe eyed, meek Angela Delvecchio in the movie? Or do you identify with the mentally ill, Bernadette Protti who had an inferiority complex, jealousy issues and an infatuation with Kirsten?

"I remember the case and I remember when the made for TV movie came out and the inaccuracies of certain misrepresentations and the controversy surrounding it"

Then why haven't you provided accurate information? What are all of these examples that you purport to have?

If you think my "tirades” are “ridiculous", why didn't you refute them?

I'm sorry that you and your family suffered that loss. I'm sorry for your relative that was killed. I have also experienced a family tragedy. Just you because you sympathise with the Costas' loss, it doesn't mean that I can't have a different opinion to you about Bernadette. If you do sympathise with the Costas' loss, why did you suggest in a previous comment that Kirsten was the catalyst to her murder? Why are you calling Kirsten names when you have no evidence that she bullied Bernadette?

“However her father was the sole wage earner for a family with multiple children.”

Yes, Bernadette lived in a more expensive area than Kirsten. Mr Protti was a retired Engineer who could send multiple children to Catholic school. Catholic schools cost money. It was stated that Mrs Protti donated large sums of money to the Catholic Church. Bernadette's parents were devout Catholics who appeared to prefer donating money to their church rather than on appearances. Bernadette didn't have a car, it was her family car. Yes, it was described as an older model, but like I said above; the Protti's appeared to be more interested in donating to the church rather than on appearances. Bernadette went to Catholic school before she attended Miramonte and private schools cost money. Bernadette was also very eager to be a Cheerleader and if she made it, her parents would have had to pay 500 or so dollars for uniforms and cheer leading camp, so your theory about Bernadette being “poor” isn't valid. However, I’m not suggesting she was wealthy either.

"Go obsess over a different murder trial."

You've mentioned that you think I'm “obsessed” a couple of times, yet haven’t given examples. The fact is you are just pissed off because I don't agree with you, so you lash out and hurl insults.
At July 12, 2018 at 4:15 AM , Karen : ) said...: 3. Sorry for the multiple comments

"Bernadette has paid her dues to society and gotten the help for (by your OWN words) whatever sickness may have lead to her committing the crime that she did."

Again, you claim to know about this case, but you have gotten another thing wrong (I'm also not suggesting that I'm an authority on this case). My comment was referring to her getting help for her jealously issues before she killed Kirsten. It clearly didn't work, did it? It's unfortunate that she didn’t receive the mental help appropriate to her needs. If she did, she may not have gone through with her futile plan to lure Kirsten out of her house.

Just because Bernadette was released, it doesn't erase her murder of Kirsten from the fabric of time. She took a human life and that doesn't just go away because you serve seven years in a pleasant juvenile facility.

"Judge and jury decided her fate based on the facts in 1985 and she waa released by a parole BOARD in 1992. If all those people with FACTS ON THE CASE made the decisions that they made based on those facts who do you think you are or what makes you more qualified to further condemn someone?"

There was no jury. Someone who claims to know the facts of the case should surely know that (I'm not attempting to suggest that I'm an authority on this case either.) A member of the parole board was not satisfied with releasing Bernadette due to an incident at the juvenile facility. He thought she still exhibited behaviour that was concerning, but yes, she was released before serving the full sentence. Do you think that if a person is released by people who knew the facts of their case that that's automatically the right decision? I suppose you agree with that about other people who were released like Karla Homolka or Kenneth McDuff? After all, a judge, jury and parole board knew the facts of their cases and released them. Bernadette got a slap on the wrist. You are obviously free to disagree with that, but I'm also entitled to my opinion.

"what makes you more qualified to further condemn someone?"

I have every right to express my opinion about Bernadette’s murder of Kirsten, just like you have a right to express your opinions. Like I wrote above, serving a short sentence doesn't erase Kirsten's murder from the fabric of time and if I want to express my sympathy for Kirsten's horrific murder, I will.

All the best.
At July 12, 2018 at 8:05 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: Purple Haze:
😆😁😂
LOL
You have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands as proved by your lengthy nonsense.
You have proved my point for me several times over therefore there is no need for me to give any examples of anything to you.

A 3 page tirade breaking down each sentence of my response proves how obsessed you are with me and this case standing up for a murder victim you don't know and vilifying the killer who was also a victim in her own way.
Besides serial killers (which Bernadette WAS NOT most) people that are driven to the point of murder have to live with their actions for the rest of their lives (if they live much longer after the fact.)
You have no idea what she may or may not have suffered or what demons she deals with on a regular basis.
Quit obsessing over a crime committed long ago that people are trying to move on from and speaking like an ultimate authority because you're not!
At July 14, 2018 at 8:09 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hello again.

So instead of disputing my points, you continue to call names. That's very becoming of a grown woman.
Feel free to LOL all you like. The “LOL” and three smiling emojis suggests you are trying too hard to make it look like you are laughing, though, and it actually conveys the opposite.

I don't think you're funny. I don't think it would be right to laugh at a grown woman who is mentally stunted. Is that why you have “girl” in your blog name....because even though you are physically a woman, you have the mind of a child?

If you are going to accuse someone else of having too much time on their hands, it's best not to spend your own time going to a blog that you don't like to write nonsense about a teenage girl that was brutally murdered, or initiate a conversation with someone else and then call them names because they don't agree with you.

If you think I have too much time on my hands because I gave you a thorough response, that's fine. You would insult me anyway whether I wrote a small concise comment, or a long and thorough comment. However, instead of writing you a thorough response, I think my time would have been better spent engaging in more useful productive pursuits like counting rain drops falling from the sky, or counting the grains of sand on a beach.

I already wrote in a previous comment (more than once) that I'm not an authority on this tragic story, so I don’t know why you are telling me something that I’ve already acknowledged.

You never said how Bernadette was “driven” to this because you can't. That's another example of you projecting your own experiences. Why are you so incensed over my comments defending Kirsten and what's it to you what I write? You are also hypocritical. You call me names for feeling sympathy for and defending Kirsten, yet you defend Bernadette – a murderer and someone you also don't know.

You don't know if Bernadette currently “suffers” from Kirsten's murder either. My opinion about Bernadette was based on her behaviour after the murder, which was obviously abnormal. If Bernadette could detach herself from killing Kirsten when she was a teenager, it's possible she could have that ability as an adult (I said it was a possibility, not a fact). Who doesn't have demons at that age? Bernadette couldn't give a straight answer as to why she killed Kirsten because there was none. She selfishly took a life and no amount of name calling from you is going to change that.

You can call me obsessed all you like, but the fact is you are the one that wrote to me first and initiated this pointless debate. Tbh, I think you're obsessed with me and admire me greatly. I can't blame you, of course. I'm clearly a very lovable and endearing individual. You said you were “done” with me, yet you came back and will probably continue to come back either under your current blog name or something else because you just can't get enough of me, can you.
Thanks for keeping this blog active. All the best.
At July 14, 2018 at 9:44 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Purple Haze:
😆😁😂
LOL
You have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands as proved by your lengthy nonsense.
You have proved my point for me several times over therefore there is no need for me to give any examples of anything to you.
At July 14, 2018 at 11:48 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hello ThisGirl965.

By all means have a good laugh, but as I wrote in a previous comment: The "LOL" and three smiling/laughing emojis suggests you are trying too hard to make it look like you are laughing, but it conveys the opposite. Repeating that isn't going to change that. It only confirms it.

As I also wrote in a previous comment: You would insult me whether I wrote a short concise comment, or a thorough long one. I'm not going to change how I write comments because of your attempts to insult me. The only thing you have unequivocally confirmed is that you're a cop-out by continuing to comment on the length of my posts rather than refute what I wrote, or give examples to back up your points. That's obvious cop-out behaviour.

In all seriousness, you have exhibited a deep anger from your past in previous comments that I wish you luck in getting counselling for.
At July 15, 2018 at 4:44 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Purple Haze:
😆😁😂
LOL
You have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands as proved by your lengthy nonsense.
You have proved my point for me several times over therefore there is no need for me to give any examples of anything to you.
At July 15, 2018 at 7:26 PM , Itsaboutime said...: THISGIRl965 is not worth the time of day. NEXT.
At July 16, 2018 at 10:09 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: 😆😂😂
Yet "Itsaboutime" took it to respond!
LMAO
And pages and pages of response have been dedicated by a dime store Criminologist/Psychologist/Detective!
At July 16, 2018 at 11:56 AM , Itsaboutime said...: I don’t claim to be any of those. Just one of Kirsten’s best friends who also knew Bernadette. So 🤣😂😂right back atcha.
And I will throw a LMAO to you for good measure.
At July 16, 2018 at 1:13 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi itsabouttime

It's just about getting the last word with "ThisGirl965", which is why she is regurgitating the same comment. It shouldn't be important for an adult to get the last word on a blog with strangers. However, as you know, an immature adult's physical age and emotional age are very different and they call names when they feel threatened, which has been consistent and evident in "ThisGirl975's" comments. All you can do is pity someone like that.
At July 16, 2018 at 2:21 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Seems the definition for name calling on this blog post is different from that of the dictionary and anyone with common sense... That being said:

Purple Haze:
😆😁😂
LOL
You have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands as proved by your lengthy nonsense.
You have proved my point for me several times over therefore there is no need for me to give any examples of anything to you.
At July 16, 2018 at 2:36 PM , Karen : ) said...: MMM... I appear to have an admirer. Not that I can blame you, of course. You are coming across exactly what you accused me of--sick,delusional and obsessed.
At July 16, 2018 at 2:37 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Itsaboutime, so you were one of Kirsten's "best friends" huh?
Then you have first hand knowledge about exactly what it is that I'm talking about.
However if you choose to deny or pretend that there was no ascendancy of social status going on at Miramonte then that would be the ONLY school on the planet where that never happened!
As far as your reading comprehension goes, I never referred to YOU as any of the above mentioned occupations yet if the shoe fits or you feel any ownership towards either of those descriptions then by all means take them.

Before you make a blanket statement that someone or a comment is not worth responding to, don't take the "time" to do so.
Twice!
At July 16, 2018 at 2:39 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Purple Haze:
😆😁😂
LOL
You have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands as proved by your repeated responses and nonsense.
You have proved my point for me several times over.

Thank you!!!!
At July 16, 2018 at 4:02 PM , Karen : ) said...: I know writing to you is about as logical as discussing the theory of relativity with a tree stump, but I sometimes find an adult with an immature mentality interesting to observe. So you must be the one to start and finish a "conversation" otherwise you accuse the other person of having too much time on their hands. You also respond to someone who doesn't write to you. You have about as much self awareness as a soggy waffle. Good luck to you.
At July 16, 2018 at 5:00 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Purple Haze:
😆😁😂
LOL
You have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands as proved by your repeated responses and nonsense.
You have proved my point for me several times over.

Thank you!!!!
At July 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM , Anonymous said...: What an insult to a soggy waffle.
At July 18, 2018 at 1:59 AM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965 is a bully and a dumb one at that.
At July 18, 2018 at 9:49 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: LMAO
😆😂
Okaaaay.....
And it's always EASY to hide behind anonymity and be an asshole!!!
At July 19, 2018 at 6:52 AM , Itsaboutime said...: Agreed Purple Haze and Anonymous!
At July 19, 2018 at 8:20 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: 😆😂😆😂😆😂😆
👌
At July 23, 2018 at 7:23 AM , Anonymous said...: Bernadette and Norman Bates would have been great friends.
At July 24, 2018 at 6:18 PM , Anonymous said...: Happy Birthday Kirsten x
At July 24, 2018 at 6:34 PM , Anonymous said...: What a hilarious comment. The over the top theatrics did wonders for my constipation. Thank you.
At July 30, 2018 at 4:47 AM , Anonymous said...: Has any further news come out about her recently?
At August 1, 2018 at 7:06 AM , Anonymous said...: Not that I'm aware of.
At August 10, 2018 at 1:38 AM , Anonymous said...: Does anyone know what impact all this publicity has had on her life?
At August 15, 2018 at 2:36 AM , Anonymous said...: I think whoever created this blog ought to clean it up by deleting many of the comments and simply posting the facts by inserting the links to the actual newspapers and any other factual data for people to read for themselves. No need to argue with those who refuse to see the truth that Bernadette butchered Kirsten because Bernadette felt jealous and inadequate, (Bernadette says so in her own words).
At August 17, 2018 at 12:30 AM , Anonymous said...: The way Bernadette acted before, during and after she butchered Kirsten in such a cowardly, brutal way kind of reminds me of how Ted Bundy's normal behaviour (Mask), was one of the factors that allowed him to get away with his crimes for as long as he did. Bernadette's normal behaviour (Mask) is why no one suspected her either - despite the fake bob o links dinner, description of the dumpy blonde and even of the car. Were the people there around her that stupid or was it like Bundy where people did not suspect it could be the person because of the "Mask" of normalcy... Extremely creepy how young Bernadette was yet so much control in hiding what she did afterwards for so long, it never fazed her in that it never tripped her up. Bernadette is one evil person in my opinion.
At August 17, 2018 at 9:14 AM , THISGIRL965 said...: All these Anonymous comments about "butchering" by a teenage girl are hilarious.
Yes Kirsten was a murder victim however Bernadette was a disturbed young lady who felt a sense of provocation from the entitlement and bully-ism that Kirsten exuded.
While she may not have been as blatantly obvious or actively pursuing to make Bernadette's life miserable there were obvious hints of it.
It was a terrible tragedy all around where the perpetrator served her time and sought the help needed.

Let the woman learn from her mistakes and move on. Lest any of you want to be hounded for the rest of your life by a mistake committed prior to your adult development!
At August 17, 2018 at 10:29 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

I agree with you. I also think it would be best if the blog was cleaned up a bit and that it's best not to engage with those who can't have a civil discussion without it descending into childishness. It's scary how people like Ted can fool so many with such apparent ease. A socially adept,intelligent psychopath is hard to detect and will fool many, particularly if they are considered attractive. Didn't Ted also do charity work, which would have also fooled people.

I don't think the people around Bernadette (other teenagers) were stupid. Even though the description was clear enough, Bernadette didn't give other people a reason to suspect her because she portrayed a "sweet" persona and didn't give any indication that she was violent. I'm sure there were subtle signs before she killed Kirsten that all was not as it seemed, considering she had to get professional help to deal with her jealousy. Their small "town" with low crime rates also gives the impression that they were "sheltered". I'm surprised with the incompetence of LE and surprised if Bernadette's parents didn't suspect her. One of the many things that is disturbing about this case was Bernadette's ability to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with Kirsten's friends in order to determine who Kirsten's killer was. She was infatuated with Kirsten and it appears to have manifested itself in the church parking lot on that night, which prompted Kirsten to flee to the house of a stranger. Regarding "the talk" about Bernadette being bullied....have you ever come across anyone who wanted to be near their bully? Who wanted to spend time with their bully? Who "idolised" their bully? Who
wanted to drive in a car they were embarrassed about with their bully? Who was infatuated with their bully? No? Me neither.
At August 18, 2018 at 12:23 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: It's interesting that certain people don't understand the concept of "frenemies". That although a person may be bullied by someone else they have no concept of how to walk away other than to try to be the "best friend" possible.
So while the bully continues to get off in their bully antics the person being bullied further tries to be accepted by their bully. It's called "Queen Bee Syndrome".

And it's even more ironic how people want to continue to excuse the "Queen Bee's" behavior and continue to bully someone by posting nasty things online about said person who has already completed their penance long ago.
At August 18, 2018 at 3:55 PM , Anonymous said...: Middle aged trolls are hilarious.
At August 18, 2018 at 4:40 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Chicken $h!t Trolls who hide behind an "Anonymous" moniker are even funnier!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
At August 19, 2018 at 2:00 AM , Anonymous said...: August 17, 2018 at 10:29 PM , Blogger Purple haze :

Yes, Ted Bundy and Ann Rule had been volunteers together, at night, just the two of them in a building manning the phones for a suicide hotline and he even used to walk Ann to her car when they left. Ironically, Ted also had saved lives.

I don't believe anyone was stupid either. I do believe that Bernadette wore a mask, that she allowed others to see only what she wanted them to see, (she hid who she really was), and therefore she was not suspected of having murdered Kirsten. I also believe this is the reason Bernadette was also able to do every thing she did after the murder, attend the funeral, let others be blamed, etc... Bernadette was very manipulative and wore her mask all too well, unfortunately.

I can not imagine any one wanting to be anywhere near the person they claim is bullying them. It just does not make sense at all for Bernadette to say Kirsten had bullied her, there was never any proof of that at her trial, (Bernadette herself hardly said anything about being bullied, except for the comment about the skis), and Bernadette even picked up Kirsten in the car that night under false pretenses - who would do all that and be alone with a person who is bullying them? I do not believe Bernadette at all.

In that video, "Landscape Suicide", where the actors read the actual transcripts from when Bernadette was in police custody - being bullied wasn't even the issue, all Bernadette went on about was more like envy, coveting what she wished she had but did not, and a pity party for herself and concern over what others would think of her. It was a very creepy thing to watch/listen to as they read that transcript of Bernadette's own words - both for what she had said and also for what she did not say.

Poor Kirsten and her family. So very sad. Such a shame that people do not make the effort to discover and read the facts before they offer any opinion. It is also sad how many people have been bullied and seem to be "reacting" to the movie rather than the actual facts of the case.
At August 19, 2018 at 8:58 AM , Anonymous said...: THISGIRL965 is a name that is just as Anonymous as Anonymous.
At August 19, 2018 at 1:45 PM , THISGIRL965 said...: Anonymous isn't associated with ANY one person in particular.
However "Thisgirl965" however "anonymous" it may be will be associated with my comments wherever they are made. I can't pretend that I didn't make any particular comment and say someone else made it if there is any particular backlash.

Also Bernadette's individual experience with Kirsten doesn't take away her actions towards others.
Whether or not a person identifies with the bully or the bullied actually determine's where they stand on the topic....

AGAIN:
Refer to "Queen Bee Syndrome".
At August 20, 2018 at 1:11 AM , Anonymous said...: Purple Haze:
Here are some links that support my comments, to show to others that I am making an opinion based on facts relative to Bernadette having brutally murdered Kirsten.

Landscape Suicide I referenced:

https://youtu.be/ya9t5CUxnH4

Ann Rule and Ted Bundey:

"A former police officer turned crime reporter on the wrong side of 40 with four children at home and a dissolving marriage, Rule volunteered at suicide crisis hotline one night a week. There — fortunately and unfortunately — she befriended a young man who would commit dozens of horrific murders a few years later: Ted Bundy."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/28/crime-writer-ann-rule-and-killer-ted-bundy-were-friends-before-they-were-famous/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.508a262c77b0

RE: (Ted Bundy) Mask of normalcy

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/11/10/suffering-souls

The information is out there, all anyone has to do is google and read.

I think what would be a more intelligent thing for people that come to post on this blog would be to get the facts and learn what they can, rather than posting their unsupported opinions - wouldn't that be refreshing to see Purple Haze? ;)
At August 20, 2018 at 8:23 PM , Anonymous said...: RE: https://youtu.be/ya9t5CUxnH4 Landscape Suicide /Part of the Psychological Profile on Bernadette:

"a low frustration tolerance despite a higher than average intelligence"

"overly dependent upon the environment establishment of own independent identity despite often misleading overt heterosexual behavior, there may be evidence of unu*? repression of sexual impulses and of d**?es (desires?) establishing sexual identity."

"she is extremely intuitive(?) but lacks remorse and has been completely suppress her guilt."

"The lack of sophistication in the execution of the crime can only conclude that the m* (murder?) was not premeditated."

-------

The last statement is baffling. I wonder how it could not be premeditated when Bernadette called Kirsten's home and spoke to Kirsten's mother (Kirsten was away at cheerleading camp) to set up this get together under false pretenses. Bernadette made this call about 2 days ahead of the crime. Premeditation can be formed in the mere time it takes to to decide to pick up that knife.

Whatever happened in that car that night has to be something extremely embarassing to Bernadette the way she stalked Kirsten even after Kirsten had gotten a ride home from a stranger. I don't believe that Bernadette has or will tell the truth of what really happened in the car that night. The fact that Bernadette's sexuality does come into question in her psychological profile does make me wonder how and why that was important enough for them to note it in her psychological profile. What role did it play in the crime?
At August 21, 2018 at 12:49 AM , Anonymous said...: http://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/sfbagals/Sentinal/1985_SFS_Vol12_No25_April_11.pdf

Bernadette sexuality in question
At August 22, 2018 at 1:25 AM , Anonymous said...: PURPLE HAZE

There was a butter knife found at the crime scene, it was not the murder weapon - there were unidentified latent prints on it. It also discusses the wounds that Bernadette inflicted upon Kirsten in murdering her.

https://books.google.com/books?id=DIc9F5ZzO7YC&pg=PA174&lpg=PA174&dq=butter+knife+found+at+kirsten+costa+crime+scene&source=bl&ots=2K_0ZJ7z3F&sig=so94K5BasJmSc89TbRaasMpPg6s&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwixiuy3nYDdAhVpuVkKHcbQAe0Q6AEwCHoECAEQAQ
At August 29, 2018 at 12:00 AM , Anonymous said...: It was the butter knife that Virginia used to cut veggies in the car. Bernadette brought that huge knife with her that night. If the huge knife was always in the car, then why would Bernadette put in back in the kitchen drawer, rather than back into the car?? Virginia lied.
At August 29, 2018 at 11:32 PM , Anonymous said...: It should not have mattered that Bernadette had lesbian tendencies - if people weren't so homophobic I wonder if Bernadette would have still murdered Kirsten - probably considering how much she coveted everything about Kirsten. Now that Bernadette is older and has all the material things she coveted, she has to realize by now that she will never have the things that really matter, the things that all the money in the world could never - that has to bother her and she can never change it.
At August 30, 2018 at 1:23 AM , Anonymous said...: The law at the time gave her such a light sentence for murder, Bernadette was born in 1968 so she was almost 16 years old yet had no remorse. I wonder if Bernadette sought mental help after having been released? That is what makes this murderess still a very scary person, not to be trusted - we do not know if she had ever been treated properly for her serious mental health problems. I know kids are not the same as adults but it is ridiculous to believe that an almost 16 year old (Bernadette) had to conscious. There is no cure for a sociopath so she is still scary and dangerous. People have the right to know if a murderer lives among them, so we can protect our children and ourselves.
At August 30, 2018 at 8:36 AM , Anonymous said...: "Now that Bernadette is older and has all the material things she coveted, she has to realize by now that she will never have the things that really matter, the things that all the money in the world could never - that has to bother her and she can never change it."

Or maybe, like most people at mid-life, she's come to value material things less, family and friends more, and is merely thankful for her many blessings.
That's probably not what you want to hear, but oh well.
At August 30, 2018 at 7:09 PM , Anonymous said...: It's not about me or what I want to hear or not. I don't think sociopaths change - it is always about "them".
At August 31, 2018 at 12:13 PM , Anonymous said...: TO: At August 30, 2018 at 8:36 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Now that Bernadette is older and has all the material things she coveted, she has to realize by now that she will never have the things that really matter, the things that all the money in the world could never - that has to bother her and she can never change it."

Or maybe, like most people at mid-life, she's come to value material things less, family and friends more, and is merely thankful for her many blessings.
That's probably not what you want to hear, but oh well.
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Is it a blessing for when her children find out that their mother is a murderer who brutally stabbed a child to death ?

Bernadette Protti IS Jeannette Tomanka

Saturday, December 6, 2014

Bernadette Protti found! New name Jeannette Tomanka!

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