Bernadette Protti found! New name Jeannette Tomanka!
Virginia Protti Varela the CEO
Bernadette has changed her name to Jeannette Tomanka. A quick Google search and you will see what she has been up to. She also runs a fake Facebook and Twitter account where she uses her name but changes the location to through web sleuths off into thinking that's not her. But pay close attention to the page. She never shows her face or has photos and her friends and family call her Bernie, but she quickly deletes those comments. I don't know why other blogs will not out her. It isn't illegal and I would never post her numbers or addresses even though they are easily google-able. I'm not protecting a murderer. If she committed that crime today she would still be locked up.
Oh, and Virginia and Jeannette or Bernie don't even bother with the dumb and senseless comments you leave. I suggest you change your name again or better yet just apologize to the Costas family and own the fact your're a killer. That's a fact. And now your sister is a a millionaire and it was her knife. So she claims. The Costas family should sue you clowns for every penny your worth since you guys are not "poor" anymore.
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Bernadette is happy as a lamb. We are all one with God and one with each other under God which is why it's natural to feel sympathy when a life is so cruelly taken away. Especially if the person doesn't get justice.
May everyone who visits/reads this blog be blessed.
Dude.. I just watched this movie, and obviously the girl wasn't murdered for no reason tho I'm not saying she deserved it but I see both sides. She absolutely should have done more than 7 years for murder either way but it is what it is and leave her alone she's obviously a productive member of society not some psychopath or serial killer or she wouldn't be where she is today.
Dude....move on. Get a life.
Hi
Kirsten wasn’t a “ Bully” she was down to Earth, so was her (Mom, dad, and brother). Kirsten got along with most kids, she had a few she didn’t like, but it was usually kids no one else liked. That’s different, she only didn’t like the kids that (no one else liked), usually that’s how it goes. Some came across her the (wrong way) with thier stupid conversation, and some just didn’t act right around her. Kirsten didn’t like Stupidity at all. She didn’t deserve to die... Her close friend I know her personally, she said the Costas was a fun house to be at all the time. Bernadette was a Sweet Soul to, she just feared she was going to become an (Outcast) at School and “freaked out“. She was stalking Kirsten, and, Kirsten didn’t appreciate it at all. Kirsten was just a (Teen Girl) yes Teens are under pressure to fit in with thier Peers, and going g to Single our peers who don’t (fit in) that’s just normal, she wasn’t that way to everyone, just Misfits. Some came across her the Wrong way, like starring at her, or acting just plain Stupid around her, or acting like a (Baby) and she wasn’t down with all that stuff.
So November 20th Unknown, you clearly Stated Kirsten wasn’t Murdered for “no reason”, well there is no reason for anyone to be Murdered, I don’t care who it is. Kirsten was (well liked) and got along with almost everyone, (as I said) it was the ones who nobody liked, that she didn’t like, and that’s a different story. No one liked those people, and she didn’t either. My friend misses her to this day, and never ever recovered from “her death” it changed a lot of lives and destroyed a lot of people. Bernadette is doing well, well good for her, she destroyed a lot of lives for what she did. She can’t “recover” from that part of her past. Yes God forgives her, but the town of Orinda doesn’t. They to this day hold it against her, I’m from SF and know some friend of hers in Orinda, I work with one of Kirsten’s closest friends. You will never imagine what the impact it brought on to the Community of Orinda. Kirsten isn’t the only one who didn’t like the one’s no one else liked, I don’t like them either in School, I thought they were Weird and Stupid, ( the ones at my School) that is.
I didn’t like the Oddballs in School either. There were quite a few, one girl was so annoying, I could just slap her “silly” always gazing at me, thought she was (Gay) one was always up in your face acting stupid or saying dumb stuff, she was slow, one asked you stupid questions for attention, it’s those types of people Kirsten didn’t like.
I don't know if this information is 100 percent correct or not. I do know the movie (the original one at least) attempted to make us sympathize with the killer. Yes, Kirsten seemed like she was possibly a bully (according to the movie, who knows about real life) but even so, she didn't deserve what was done to her. I was bullied for nearly two decades straight, the closest I came to killing anyone was attempting to kill myself (which luckily failed). Do I still feel hate towards the people that hurt me so much? Yes, on bad days, I admit I do. What they did to me scarred me (and though most days I've moved on enough where I do not think of it all, it does still happen), but even so, no one deserves to be murdered for being/acting like a jerk. Kirsten (am I writing her name right? Sincerest apologies if I'm not) never had the chance to grow and chance into a better, more well rounded and developed person. That chance was taken from her. While I sympathize with the feelings the killing went through PRIOR to the act of the murder, I DO NOT sympathize with her guilt over the killing or any feelings related to it. I sympathize with the family who lost their child, taken from them way too soon!!! I despise child killers (don't care if the child is a murdered). I have to be honest and say I felt a lot more sympathy for the killer when I first saw the movie (I was a kid myself, in the process of continuous bullying. and while I could never see myself hurt anyone, I thought I could understand how she was feeling). I'm older now , wiser. No sympathy!
First and foremost, I've apologized years ago to the Costas, I was young and naive, and I just wanted to fit in, along with mental health issues, please do not blame me for what happened years ago, they've forgiven me, it's in the past. I did my time, I served, I am free, I got the help I needed, I do not care what anyone says about me or to me, you can believe whatever you want. and you're right I do delete comments, and this is my final comment and I do hope eventually somebody sees this, Please leave me alone, However, I will not tell you what to put on the blog, but you're not me, you did not experience what I was experiencing, you did not feel how I felt. I was young, I made mistakes, it's in the past. and I even send the Costas money every month, I may not be able to bring back Kirsten, but I've sincerely apologized to them....
From, Jeannette
Either your people are mentally handicapped or severely mentally ill. You are running a blog and can't spell and have zero grammar comprehension. No punctuation. The pathetic level of psychosis happening here is just on a whole nother level. Yes, she did something wrong. She as in Bernadette. You have zero proof that this person is Bernadette though. And guess what? She was a child!!! They do stupid things. You keep saying how it wasn't provoked...were you there? Her own friends said it was a great likelihood that it was provoked. You speak of the public record...that is public record. Every single friend using the terms, bitch, mean and cruel in their statements. Does that excuse murder? Absolutely not. But it does mitigate the punishment and guess what, she served it. Her family on the other hand, did nothing wrong. Get a life crazy lady.
Maybe nasty people like Kristen get what they deserve. I like the movie with Tori Spelling. Bullies are Bullies. I hope Bernadette lives a happy life. St. Paul was a murderer and chosen by God as one of the greatests Saints.
Jeanette really, this isn’t Jeanette. I doubt Mrs Costas accepted your apology if you do send her money. You could send her a Million and she wouldn’t care. She probably just let it go and moved on. I doubt she forgave you. You let 2 innocents take the blame and did nothing, what was your excuse for that? You were accepted, you just wanted to be Kirsten and have her life, all out of jealousy. I’m sorry you went through a bad ordeal and people harassed you, I hope you did find Peace, won’t bring Kirsten back ever, but it will help you to deal with your issues. I hope you got the help you needed. I know you can’t push time backwards but can move forwards, I’m sure Kirsten forgives you now, and maybe one day in Heaven you and she can reunite. Did you apologize to the girls who got blamed as well? If not, maybe you should. Wish you the best Jeanette.
Bernadette did do her time, no it won’t bring Kirsten back, but it’s something that happened 36 years ago or better. Yes people at Orinda today still are mad, but they have to deal with that in their own way and staying mad isn’t going to erase the past. We lost a lot of classmates in the past, mostly by accidents, or natural causes, nothing can be done now about it, Kirsten would want us to go on and not stay mad. Life is way to short, look at the Rioters that killed 1000s of innocent people and innocent children. This World today we don’t know what will happen next, I just decided rehashing Bernadette isn’t going anywhere, the case is 3 decades or 3.5 decades old now, so it’s time to move to the next chapter. Maybe Mrs Costas did forgive, she’s a nice and understanding Woman. She wouldn’t hate no one for long, or hold a grudge. She knows it won’t solve a thing rehashing this horrible affair, and I’m sure Bernadette regrets it now.
It's a sad situation on both sides. I do believe bernadette was bullied by kirsten. Kirsten didn't deserve to die but bernadette did her time and it's over.Nothing can be changed. Both families were never the same again. I think bullies should think before they react but also the person being bullied should either let it go and avoid the person or tell someone. It could of made a difference if that had happened in this case. No one deserves to die or be bullied.
The same person is talking to themselves over and over again. LOL.
Why can’t you all stop discussing this tragic event, it is done it’s been done. As for Orinda folks and Kirsten’s former classmates, they don’t discuss it at all. They just want to put it behind. They’re not into discussing (Morbid fatalities) it’s something they would like to just forget and move on. Don’t get me wrong lots haven’t forgiven Bernadette, but they just try and move on with thier lives. They have a thing on Facebook you know if you’re from Orinda Ca. And it has a paragraph all about the Murder. Go on that and read it. It really don’t matter if Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten, or if Bernadette was jealous of all her accomplishments, point is, it’s all over and done with, and each time you all write on here and comment, it just rehashes it all over again. It’s like we go back to that very day.
Kirsten’s friends still get together occasionally. But they don’t discuss Kirsten, and I guarantee they don’t discuss Kirsten or Bernadette at any of he reunions. They mostly catch up with what everyone’s been doing and their families, jobs and life. They try and discuss happy times, “not tragic events”.
Anonymous above you must love living in the past, and have a morbid fascinations. It’s your thoughts and fascinations.
Actually she changed her name to Jeannette Butler and instead of writing about the murdering bitch write about the poor girl she killed!!!!!!
My gothic Emma, Kirsten was a delight. She had a big heart and a beautiful soul. She was hardly a bully by any means. She was just a typical teen girl who wanted to have a good time and she joked around a lot. She was funny and cute. She never meant any harm if she did tease other people. She didn’t mean it harmful, or to hurt them, she was like that. You had to know how to take her. It’s just sometimes we have flashbacks over all this tragic moments. It wasn’t easy for us. It took a huge toll on all of us, changed our lives, and also things were not the same after that. We had a terrible time adjusting to the changes. We don’t care about Jeanette, I hear the Costas family forgave her, it’s possible, Mrs. Costas was a wonderful person, and she was understanding, and did not hold grudges. She wasn’t like those in the Movies on this case. Kirsten was more like the girl I. The 2 nd movie, she wasn’t a thing like Stacy Lockwood, Tori Spelling did not look or act a thing like Kirsten. Her family was not stuck up, as I said, Mrs. Costas was a “down to earth” Woman and she was forgiving also. She was quiet also. She loved her kids and she loved all Kirsten’s friends, well most of them. She always offered you something to eat. When Kirsten had slumber parties we would have a lot of fun there. Mr. and Mrs. Costas were nice to all of us girls. Fond memories of the entire family. They were a wonderful family, Peter was a great kid. He is married with a daughter. As for the Costas forgiving Bernadette, doesn’t mean they will invite her over for luncheon, (or go places with her) they would more or less just let it go and move on,“ if they did forgive her”. I doubt they would have her over their house and have her the (guest of honor) they just would move on and not be ate up with so much (hatred). They didn’t hate anyone, and Kirsten didn’t hold grudges like the Movie deployed her doing so. She cared about people, maybe the outcasts didn’t think so, but some of them just assumed the worst and didn’t like the (incrowd) so to speak. Kirsten never gave those people much thought if any thought. She was to busy with School Spirit. She was into Swimming and Cheerleading. She had more things to do besides bully people. We all miss and love Kirsten and lots of her friends still get together every now and then. They don’t discuss this tragic event though hardly at all. They’re so not into rehashing this tragic affair, and I can understand why. Her friends were as nice as she was. Her closest friends were just exactly like her. She had no known enemies, she was a social butterfly. There’s people who say she was mean, some from Miramonte, they just didn’t take the time to know her, or they somehow said something dumb to her, she wasn’t a fan of stupidity, or “they rubbed her the wrong way”. She liked almost everybody. She may of had a few she “couldn’t get along with”, but we can’t get along with everyone or like everyone. I always thought she was a (doll). She was so sweet.
There was very few she didn’t like, some no one else liked. So I hope this helped you out Mzgothic Emma. The ones no one liked, she didn’t like them either, lots of it was the way they acted. You got people like that in every school, ones no one likes and tries to avoid, or want nothing to do with cause their weird and annoying.
Thank you Missy for finally spreading some truth. As a close friend of Kirsten’s it’s nice to finally here someone on this thread tell it like it is. Although we do still talk about Kirsten and miss her dearly.
Itsaboutime, are you Andrea?
No. Are you Jessie’s girl?
It’s about time you’re welcome. I knew Kirsten also, but won’t reveal my identity for safety reasons, as you shouldn’t either. I loved Kirsten and miss her dearly, of course at times it gets overheated on this blog discussing her all the time. You know how it was, and what we all endured through The Whole horrible time, it just was life changing, and nothing was ever going to be the same, but we had to adapt and goon with our lives. Kirsten and I were friends, but not close friends, we swam together, I was a year behind her, lived not to far either. I saw her 2 weeks before that awful night, she was just so cute and adorable. She liked most people, some rubbed her the wrong way, or said stupid stuff around her, cause she was so cute and funny, they thought they could be to, but they either tried to hard, or went about it the wrong way. I avoided those kinds to, Miramonte had a few of them, they were usually (annoying). I didn’t like the ones who clung to you like a life jacket, we had one there, no mentioning names, we had a few that were clingy, and wanted desperately to be liked and accepted and didn’t know how to be. Kirsten teased people to, she didn't mean no harm in it, she was being funny, it’s some people are so sensitive and take things so seriously. She told it how it was, and that was that. She told me if I would let my hair grow I’d look really nice, with short hair my hair was to thick and it looked ( bushy) I didn’t get offended. I looked like a poodle with short hair for real.
Also it’s about time, remember a girls from Miramonte first name starts with a “D” . She said she didn’t want to hear from former Miramonte students cause her years at Miramonte wasn’t the best, it’s totally her loss. Surprised people can carry that burden so long. Well she had issues to. There was one there they called a (slut) whenever they saw her out, she disappeared and no one heard from her. That was sad, even if she was no right to mistreat her. Miramonte had its moments, as does any School. Was Miramonte affluent! Absolutely, there was good times and bad along with the rest, and we all had such a (great time) maybe some don’t share the same experience as we did. Tori Spelling she looked a lot like one of Kirsten’s close friends first letter “J”. She had amazing School spirit to J did, as did Kirsten. It really is great to get on here and hear from former Miramonte students, and hope life is still treating you right. The ones who didn’t have a good experience, sorry but hope life is much better for you today. That stuff happens in a high school setting a lot. Even though I’m a 87er wonder if I could go to the 86 reunion? I knew people in that class, I liked a gal named MC a cheerleader to. Also a gal named Stacy was cool. It was so great to hear from you it’s about time, even though I don’t know who you are, and for safety purposes don’t want to now. I am glad you were close to Kirsten and them, and one day we will all be together again. Class of 86 lost quite a few recently. Marcie Fuller she was sweet.
Why are you talking to yourself? Are you ok?
I’m not talking to myself just replying to comments on here. Are you bored with “ Life” . I am definately not talking to myself, but you are on here to start drama. Maybe you need “serious help“. I was replying to Its about time on here on her article and telling about (Kirsten). She has fond memories of her also, but don’t ask me who she is, I don’t know, and even if I did know I wouldn’t broadcast. So mind your own business and stop coming on here posting hateful comments, or just “stay off this site”. Cause we’re here to discuss not fight. Grow up whoever you are.
I want to express my apology to others on here for seeing the above hateful comment. It makes me so cross when people get on here running their mouths and saying stuff. We discuss the memories of Kirsten, “ as we should” and reminisce the good old days. She was a sweet girl ( Kirsten) and so darn cute. Probably one of the sweetest girl I ever knew. She had nice parents also. They weren’t exclusive at all and loved everyone. Berit would always talk to me anytime she saw me in town or at a restaurant. She would come right up to the table. Her husband was a nice guy.
Hello. Karen here.
I wrote a comment recently in response to someone else on the blog that I've changed my mind about. She asked me what I thought happened the night Kirsten was killed. I had forgotten details about the case because it’s been a while since I've read about it and I don't come here much anymore. I’ll re- post the comment here because it seems to be the most viewed part of the blog
Bernadette rang Kirsten's house while she was away at cheerleading camp with the intention of luring her out of her house under the pretence of a Bobbies meeting. Bernadette drove to Kirsten’s house and beeped for Kirsten to come outside. Kirsten saw it was Bernadette and was probably sceptical about the Bobbies meeting, but she got in the car with Bernadette anyway. Bernadette drove Kirsten to the church car park under the illusion that other Bobbie members would be there to finish the initiation rituals that were stopped abruptly in school. After a while, when no-one showed up, Kirsten got suspicious and asked Bernadette what was going on? Bernadette probably confessed that there was no meeting and the reason why she drove her to the car park was to get to “know her” (Bernadette's words). Kirsten would obviously be bewildered by this behaviour and question why Bernadette went to the trouble of getting her phone number, and lying to her mother about the Bobbies meeting. Bernadette probably panicked and then her feelings of admiration for Kirsten came pouring out, which came across as obsessive. A mutual friend of both Kirsten and Bernadette said that Bernadette “idolised Kirsten”. Kirsten reportedly didn’t know Bernadette very well or pay her much mind, so you can imagine that Bernadette's obsessive feelings of admiration for her would have made her feel stunned and flabbergasted, which understandably prompted her to flee from Bernadette's car. Put yourself in Kirsten’s shoes and imagine someone you barely knew in High School lied to you to get you out of your house so she could try and force a friendship. Kirsten was alone with a stranger in an empty car-park at night that was trying to force a friendship with her. Most people would have reacted like Kirsten in that scenario.
What did Bernadette say? We can only speculate, obviously. She was obsessive, so probably something along the lines of: “I know that I lied to you, but I've always liked you and just wanted to get to know you.”.....”I know you don't know me very well, but I just really admire you and think we could be friends......and so on.
Looking at this logically, Bernadette would have come across as odd, obsessive and using Kirsten for popularity. Kirsten's feelings were understandable and justified.
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Bernadette was described as intelligent and placed a lot of importance on what people thought of her, so it didn't make sense why she lacked the foresight to understand that her plan to lure Kirsten out of her house under the guise of a Bobbies meeting would be a disaster. Bernadette thought a lot more highly of herself than people realised. For example: Bernadette obviously thought she was cheerleading material if she had the balls to try out for cheerleading in front of a group of other girls. She thought she was good enough to write in the school paper. She thought she was good enough to be in the elite sorority groups. In my opinion, she thought highly enough of herself to think she had the ability to win Kirsten over in the car-park that night despite lying to her about a Bobbies meeting to be alone with her.
Bernadette wasn't a rational person. Her jealousy issues were severe enough that her parents felt the need to get her professional help. Bernadette’s father made a comment about Bernadette thinking that other girls didn't deserve what they had. Bernadette displayed snobby behaviour when she said to a friend that the Bobbies should remain exclusive. Bernadette had rage issues in the juvenile facility she was in. My point is, Bernadette was not the innocent hapless character depicted in the fictional movie and fictional movies loosely based on Bernadette and Kirsten aren't facts. Critical thinking is so important, especially in this day and age when people are constantly bombarded with nonsensical shit in the media, twitter, facebook.....etc.
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Karen and anonymous, here is what I clearly think happened that night, Bernadette was desperation for “Kirsten’s approval“ and nothing was going to get in the way of that. She planned a fake meeting under false pretenses cause if Kirsten would have known she would of never rode along with her, and she thought if she got her out and trie to be friends with her Kirsten would concede. Here’s what I truly think went wrong: I think Bernadette tried to hard and begged Kirsten so hard she got tongued and confessed how she felt and Kirsten freaked out on her about it. Then Bernadette overcame enormous fears that Kirsten would expose her to the entire School and she would be a “ laughing stock” and she so feared of becoming an outcast that had just crazed out and snapped. Whether she planned to kill Kirsten all along remains unknown, I think after Kirsten threatened to expose her weirdness to her she planned to kill her.. as for the (knife) belonging to her sister, it’s not impossible her sister could of left it there, but Bernadette had no business with it either way. If she would of left Kirsten alone, Kirsten wouldn’t of cared either way and she would be civi, towards her at least. No Bernadette wanted so much more than “ being civil” she wanted her friendship int he most desperate way possible. Bernadette posted the Costas family forgave her, well that’s not impossible either, Mrs Costas was a (wonderful woman). She was no where near an snobbish as the first movie portrayed her. Lots of holes in that movie and lots of holes in the story about the knife being there by chance. As I said, not saying it’s impossible it wasn’t but I think something shady was there all along. Kirsten was lovable and had all kinds of friends, and wasn’t exclusive towards people, as a matter of fact, she had no known enemies, I think she teased Nancy Kane and Nancy got offended. She never meant any harm in it. She had nothing really against Nancy Kane or Joanna, she just didn’t want to hang out with them, she owns that right. Wasn’t just them, several people she didn’t want to bother with, some if she didn’t like, rubbed her the wrong way, or came off the wrong way toward her. As a kid I knew her and we were friends, even in high school we still talked and got along good. I liked her friends I knew who most of them were, they were all very sweet girls. Kirsten loved to laugh and make other laugh not meaning at others expense. Some disagree totally with me. They didn’t know how to take her maybe. She cared about people. Bernadette is obviously one who approached her the wrong way. I would think you were a weirdo if you lured me out just to beg for my friendship, I would wonder how all there you were.
As for Kirsten and her close friend making prank calls to less popular kids, there’s holes there to. I think they may of done it being cute not meaning any harm and that got blown out of proportion also. Teen age girls make prank calls all the time they live off that. That is typical and it’s part of being an adolescent. As I said, most teenage girls are (caddy) and snobbish, no reason to kill them. Kirsten I guarantee was no worse than any teen girl there was anywhere. I guarantee she would never physically harm anyone. I think Bernadette should of done it the right way, just hanging out with her friends( Kirsten’s) and be in their ( presence) and see what happens instead of being desperate. Kirsten wouldn’t of cared at all. We all miss Kirsten she was ( bubbly and joyful). She was a positive person with a positive “force of nature“.
I've read a lot of the information from your comments in interviews. Did you give an interview?
Don’t
Don't what? I don't get what you mean. The media twists everything. They are vipers.
Hi Nissy,
Yeah, we’ve pretty much said the same thing. Bernadette lied about a Bobbies meeting so Kirsten would get in the car with her. Kirsten probably wouldn’t have left with Bernadette otherwise. There was no party and there was no pot. If there was a party, would Kirsten have gotten in the car with Bernadette after realising Bernadette lied and rang Kirsten’s house and lied to Mrs Costas about a Bobbies meeting? I doubt it. It’s possible that Bernadette told Kirsten that other Bobbie members would be at the church car-park to finish the initiations. I’m sure Kirsten was sceptical, but she went with her anyway. She couldn’t have known how sick Bernadette was.
Bernadette was desperate for popularity and tried a force a friendship with Kirsten. When that didn’t work, she freaked out, Kirsten must have realised the extent of Bernadette’s obsession with her and fled the car to a stranger’s house.
Bernadette probably thought she could win Kirsten over, despite lying to her and being needy and obsessive. Most people would not respond well to someone they barely know going to great lengths to be alone with them and using a mutual club/sorority as a ruse. How convenient that Bernadette’s sister left a large knife in the car. Bernadette didn’t leave the knife back in the car where she apparently found it. It was left back in the kitchen where it was most likely used by other family members to prepare food. Bernadette apparently idolised Kirsten, but it looks like was seething with jealousy and rage. She was getting professional help for her jealously issues. Her rage is evident in the vicious wounds she inflicted on Kirsten with the large kitchen knife.
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I don’t interview cause the Media twisted all the interviewers words around and turned it into (Pro Bernadette) . They made her out to be a lonely desperate wannabe who struggled to make friends, and that was not the case, Bernadette was friends with that “very group”. Kirsten they portrayed her as Regina George in ( Mean Girls) she wasn’t that at all. They didn’t base the movie on facts, they twisted it around to make it good for Hollywood, that’s what gets the people interested and watching and it makes producers happy. Kirsten it was said she was only mean to people she didn’t like, truth is, Kirsten liked practically everyone. She had a few who she didn’t like cause they were annoying and got on your nerves, and al so some were pushy and clung to you like (Saran Wrap). You had kids I. Your school you all tried to ditch and avoid cause they weren’t “all there”. That’s how it was with Miramonte, most fit in though.
There were a lot of holes in the article that wasn’t so. The movie went by the interviews, some parts were true, like Kirsten was well liked and had no known enemies. The part about not liking less rich people isn’t so. Kirsten wasn’t all that (wealthy) just “well to do” so to speak. They weren’t Beverly Hill Billionaires living in Mansions, Bernadette wasn’t the poor white trash as portrayed, her family was well to do also. They weren’t billionaires by any means. Orinda is an affluent community and crime rate was so low, that it shocked the entire community. I believe the party was a ruse to get Kirsten out of her house and try and get her to accept her. People say Kirsten was a (bully) I can’t picture that one at all. She may of said mean things to people who got on her nerves, but she didn’t pick people out in crowds who were dressed differently, act differently maybe.
Hi Missy,
It must be very weird for you to read comments from strangers talking about this case. There is a certain person that used to frequently post different comments under different aliases pretending to be different people. If your name in any article, it wouldn't surprise me if she pretended to be you.
Anonymous, she can pretend all she wants. As far as I know, she hasn’t used my alias. I won’t reveal, as I said for privacy. No it doesn’t bother me strangers get on here discussing this case, “not at all”, what bothers me is people getting on here blaming Kirsten to being a ( bully) and getting what she deserved. That really gets me “irritate“. No one deserves to die to start with, esp, Savagely Murdered , cause you can never undo it or make up for it. Whenever someone gets murdered (cold blooded) that is someone’s Mom,dad, sister brother, Son or daughter, and they are the ones who truly have to suffer through it. Someone makes you that mad, stay away from them, don’t even talk to them, cause it’s not worth it, and you get caught mostly and become a villain in your own town. I don’t care how badly someone has treated you, stay away from them. That’s what people don’t seem to get in this blog, that Kirsten and her family are the true victims. That girl I heard of her using aliases, she isn’t “wrapped to tight” to say the stuff she said. I haven’t heard her lately babbling on her, maybe she died from this virus. Don’t wish that, but this virus has taken a lot out.
I do miss Kirsten, she was always nice to me. I knew her since I was 7, and she was 8. She was always a lovely girl. She helped people all the time as a little girl. Even as a teen, I thought she was still nice, she may of been caddy, but as I said, how many teens aren’t snoddy and caddy! 99.9 % teen girls are at times, and I’m sure Kirsten said something to someone as a teen to hurt their feelings, as we all have. She wasn’t alone. I even could be caddy myself. Does that mean we deserve to be murdered for it. Even in the first movie, at Bernadette’s trial, you still had to feel for Dick and Dana Lockwood over their daughter Stacy. They were the real victims. Bernadette wasn’t a victim, she was the (victimizer). I said before, and I’ll say again, Kirsten was no worse than any teen girl there ever was.
Hi Missy,
Well, I hope the regular poster did not get the virus.
Sorry for your loss.
People who comment negative things about Kirsten on this blog appear to view their own teenage years through rose coloured glasses. Everyone has been snippy in their lives, especially when they were teenagers. I was very moody at times when I was a teenager which resulted in a lot of detention.
It may not look like it at times, but I have looked at this case objectively and I agree that Kirsten appeared to be no worse than the average teenager. Articles and movies always sensationalise.
Sorry, I know Miramonte was competitive, but I can't help but think it was tame in comparison to other schools. Tbh, I think you were lucky to go to such a good school. Sorry, if you thought it was tough, though.
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Sorry had trouble with the first sentence. Yes teens are very moody, and Kirsten was no worse than any teen girl ever. The ones on here accuse her of being a (bully) is going by their own bullying experience when they were in school, and probably they were a 10 time loser in highschool and in jr high. Miramonte was a great School, maybe the ones who didn’t fit I didn’t agree, but there were reasons why they didn’t fit in, not how they looked, more how they “ acted”. Not everyone is meant to fit in at school to. Kirsten was a cheerleader and had school spirit and loved her school, and was true to it. So she probably had some she didn’t like, but we all do. Kirsten never got in trouble at school, she was a “model student“. Those who went to Miramonte and said she made fun of others and called her names on here, probably were students there that others avoided and didn’t want anything else to do with. As I said, every school has kids that others want to duck away from and avoid, and don’t want them around, probably one of those kinds of students there said that about Kirsten cause she probably spotted they “weren’t all there“ and avoided them. Nancy Kane had fit in till she decided she wanted to be on the other side of the fence, sure the girls she hung with say negative things about Miramonte cause they weren’t socially accepted there cause of the choices they made, and some acted like big babies to there. They were still (Baby acting) and people didn’t want to deal with them. Kirsten didn’t have time to fool with those kinds and neither did anyone else, in the real world you can’t cry whenever you don’t get your way, or someone says something mean to you, it just don’t cut it. They were in high school and the teachers and principal mad teachers was trying to Prepare them for the real world and some found out the real world was harder the hard way. Crying and bawling don’t get you anywhere, or acting like a 3 year old doesn’t either. There were quite a few students at Miramonte that acted that way, and Kirsten probably didn’t want to be bothered with those kinds. And ones who say Miramonte was full of snobs probably were the very ones who weren’t socially accepted there. Growing up there for me was different than it was for them I made different choices and did as I was told, and listened in class, and didn’t cry or throw a fit when something didn’t go my way. I also didn’t get into fights there like some lie to do. Those kinds were singles out for those very reasons. Bernadette’s bff she fit in some to before all that went down with Kirsten. After she defended Bernadette, and said all those mean things about Kirsten, she was an outcast there to. No one hardly talked to her after that. Nancy Kane I liked her, but she felt when she returned that we all should just run up and hug her and tell her we missed her, no one owes her that, she got to come back to school, she was there to learn and graduate, not to be hugged and loved on, she took that way to serious, and also said she felt people still accuse her of (murder) no they didn’t the murder was solved. That’s the stuff Miramonte people didn’t like, people felt we owed them a living, it wasn’t about them and bowing down to them, it was all about learning and school spirit and being prepared what’s yet to come to the real world. I am sorry Nancy was a suspect, we all made up to her and let her come back, what more did she want! One girl said she didn’t want to co e to the reunion cause her high school years weren’t the best, she needs to get over it to, been to long to be rehashing all the memories, if they were bad, why were they bad, ask yourself that one! Lots of others had fond memories, I wasn’t really popular, but I loved school, I didn’t expect from anyone, or acted like they owed me anything.
Lots of girls there also took things way to serious, Bernadette and Nancy were only a few so to speak. Nancy was in the “ in crowd” as was Bernadette as well. If their are kids that no one likes, it’s best to stay away from them cause mostly there’s a good reason. Kirsten is one who could hang around them and bring them in the ( in crowd) she didn’t want to, cause she knew they weren’t right, or got into trouble by making dumb and bad choices. Nancy she ran with them and became them, that’s what separated her, she could of brought hem in the (group) she was in, but she didn’t want to do that. Those others I know most of them, they were so annoying it wasn’t funny. They also were mouthy themselves. People blamed Miramonte for their problems for not fitting in or making it there cause Miramonte had (snobs) that’s anywhere, and as for them saying everyone there was a snob, they didn’t see the reflectors in their mirror. No more snobs than anywhere else. They have them in all schools. Kirsten was t one, as I said, so she didn’t like a few, but they were the ones no one else liked. Maybe they should of asked themselves why and try and change themselves. And those who don’t 2ant to go to Miramonte 86 Reunion cause your life was so bad, then don’t come, they don’t care, why do you want people to know how miserable you were, just making yourself look bad. I know who you are to, but won’t call you out on it, cause it makes me as dumb as you. Just don’t get on Miramonte pages telling about it, cause it’s pointless after all this time. I read some of your comments on Miramonte pages and Miramonte Reunions telling how bad Miramonte was, and how bad the kids treated you, you are not hurting Miramonte students, just making yourselves look stupid.
Hi Missy.
That was interesting. Thank you.
In your opinion, what is the biggest misconception about Kirsten and Bernadette?
I think Bernadette was obsessed with Kirsten, and wanted badly to become her friend, and the fact Kirsten didn’t want to be her friend, triggered her. I think Bernadette took things to personal that it became “personal“. She saw Kirsten had many friends and she wanted to be “her friend“ to. Kirsten didn’t think that much about Bernadette, the conversation was usually from Bernadette about Kirsten according to their mutual friend GG. I didn’t really know Bernadette, she was quiet, and I couldn’t imagine her being capable of (Murder). I just think it bothered Bernadette that Kirsten didn’t want to be friends, and she tried way to hard to be friends with her to the point where she made a fool of herself, and when Kirsten rejected her advances, here’s what I think happened: I believe Bernadette was so desperate for Kirsten to like her, that she confessed her feelings and made a fool of herself in the car. I believe she kept repeating and begging for Kirsten to like her, to the point where it freaked Kirsten out to where she ran away for help. After that I think Bernadette just flat out freaked and lost it, whether or not the knife was already there or she brought it along, that’s a question that remains a mystery. I think Bernadette started having uncontrollable thoughts of being a failure and a outcast at school to where she couldn’t deal with it and did the “unthinkable” and felt that if she killed Kirsten that would save her reputation. I do believe the murder was premeditated from that point on, but maybe not at first. I believe Kirsten was a threat to Bernadette after their bizzare conversation to where Kirsten probaly would of told all her friends. From what I heard from the interview of Alex Arnold, Kirsten said “ my friend has gone weird on me” can I please come in And use your phone! But Kirsten didn’t use the name to him, maybe she felt it was no big deal and didn’t want to get him involved in it. She just wanted out of there. The bullying incident there’s lots of gray areas with many hikes falling through. I don’t believe Kirsten bullied Bernadette, I believe she had a secret that would expose and ruin Bernadette for acting so (weird).. I do think Bernadette needed a lot more than 9 years like “15 to life”. Kirsten May of teased Bernadette to the point where Bernadette took it to seriously. As I said, she took things to serious to where it became (serious). Bernadette did watch innocent girls take the blame, can’t forgive her there. But the girls who were accused had issues with Kirsten and threatened to get her, it was easily believed to be one of those girls. Nancy even stated she wrote in her notebook “I want to see her blood drip” drip drip drip. So that’s why he’s was one of the main suspects. Goes to show you, watch what you say and threats can be taken seriously, it was a coincidence but if you say stuff like that, and something happens your the first person they look at. Sorry she went through all that though, Nancy was a nice person. Bernadette was never considered a suspect, well (Sharon Palmer) she wrote and article in one of these blogs where her daughter suspected Bernadette, cause Bernadette was acting weird sitting behind her and the car matched the description.
I also believed Bernadette bawled like a baby begging for Kirsten’s friendship to the point Kirsten called her a weirdo. I believe Bernadette kept begging and begging to the point where she broke down and bawled “like a baby.“. I beleive Bernadette Wouldn’t take no for her answer so she kept crying and begging and knew Kirsten would use that against her. I think she killed her to keep her from revealing how weird their conversation was. It was said in court, “ I just couldn’t let her tell” with Bernadette’s head down. That’s my version, and so she planned to kill her to keep her quiet. I beleive she meant good intentions at first, but it got to weird.
The bullying part came from when it was heard Kirsten called Bernadette a (weirdo) and told her to go away, and Bernadette said she made fun of her skis, and there’s lots of gray area there, and Kirsten wasn’t around to tell her side of it. I believe the media felt sorry for Bernadette cause of the trial where people were packed there, that’s for starters, and Bernadette made it out like she had to struggle to fit in, her parents said she had to struggle to fit in, and Kirsten was just perturbed at the fact Bernadette lured her out under false pretense so she called her a weirdo and threatened to expose the “weird conversation”. So I think that’s where they got the idea of Kirsten being a bully( which BTW she wasn’t), and the skis if Kirsten did make fun of her skis, it may of been due to Bernadette was bugging her then. The movie only showed Bernadette’s statements, as for the marijuana a lot of gray area there to, if that was so, Bernadette would of smoked it to, esp if she was eager to fit in, she smoked pot before in hopes of being someone’s friend, there is a lot of holes in Bernadette’s account. Kirsten liked almost everyone and had no known enemies, as I said, only people who got on her nerves by acting dumb, or people who were annoying and always in trouble, or they approached her the wrong way, that’s understandable. Usually to as I stated, no one liked those kids.
Missy what was GG like. Was she wealthy?
Hi Missy,
Just wanted to let you know that the above comment is not from me. I wouldn't name anyone and I couldn't care less about their financial status.
I asked this because I heard Bernadettes friend was poor and loved Kirsten
Not the above poster. Missy you mentioned GG. She was beautiful and well to do. She was on the homecoming court and the prettiest girl there apart from Karen and Lisl. All these names are mentioned in various articles.
Karen a name I haven’t heard in a long time, won’t reveal her last name. Karen and Carol were on the homecoming court and the most popular girls at Miramonte. Liesl was popular to, curly haired like Kirsten and funny like Kristen, they could of passed for sisters. Liesl hasn't t been around in many years. Karen and Carol and Liesl were all friend of Kirsten’s as well. So was Carrie. Boy brings back good memories. Liesl was on the student council and was as I said, popular and funny. Liesl was also on the swim team and so was Karen. If you want to know about their finances that’s fine, they were not poor by any means, well to do yes. They weren’t Beverly Hills material and Nancy Reagan material but they were upper middle class even Kirsten and Bernadette. Orinda was middle class and upper middle class, now it has wealthy folks cause they improved it. Lowest home is 1000,000 dollars, can’t get much under that unless it’s 900,000. Before it was 500,000 to 800,000 to a million when I was in school. It’s secluded also. I enjoy talking about Liesl she was a lot of fun, even after Kirsten’s death Liesl being around helped us and helped our spirits so to speak. She may of been on the homecoming court, I don’t think she was. All the boys loved her, Karen, Carol, Carrie and Kirsten, none really liked Bernadette. Was t till Junior year they started noticing her after she made the (Bobbies) till then she was a plain Jane with lots of friends. I think she was quiet is why they didn’t notice her all at once, and she wasn’t as pretty as some of the other girls there. She was average on a scale of 1 to 10. She also was new in school and probably they didn’t know her. Liesl like Kirsten was a “social butterfly” and outgoing, like a clone of Kirsten. Karen was so nice to everybody, so was Carol and the rest, they never judged anyone, and nice to everybody. They would never deliberately hurt anyone’s feelings. They were not exclusive either, Kirsten was a lot like that, but she had a few she didn’t like. So whoever gets on here again saying Kirsten was a bully, before you do, read facts. Most teen girls are caddy and mean at times, and they can get snippy, but bullying is way extreme from being caddy and snippy. Karen is probably one of the few when was never snippy, she and Carol were always nice and sweet.
There were a few other girls popular in the class of 1986, on the cheerleading squad and spirit squad. Won’t mention names cause they may of not been revealed yet. Liesl did favor Kirsten a lot, she was such a (joy) and probably still is today. GG, Karen and Carol were beautiful all the way. They looked like Models. So were the other cheerleaders in the class of 1986. Liesl s mom Sharon wrote an article on here referring to Bernadette, Liesl was friends with both girls, I think Bernadette wanted to get close to Kirsten to get at the very top with Karen and them. I think she wanted to be like all those girls and Kirsten and GG was her ticket to climb the top of the social ladder. Bernadette could never compete with girls like Karen, GG, Kirsten or Liesl. She was popular ( Bernadette) but those girls were at the very top and the ones that you wanted to be. Bernadette was more the girl people wanted to hang around and have fun, but those others are the ones you just want to be. Bernadette was a step down from those girls. In her eyes she was a failure cause she couldn’t compete with them. Not many people could, I know I couldn’t , and wouldn’t want to, cause God made me the way he wants me. Nancy at first was the girl people wanted to hang around just like Bernadette. Others those that no one liked, they were the bottom feeders, and one girl who ran loosely with guys thinking she would gain popularity, dragged herself down to the bottom feeders also. That was no right for her to be ridiculed at Miramonte, it is what it is. Several girls pulled that, and it got them nowhere. I won’t reveal their names cause it was an unfortunate situation where they should of been out with friends, having fun and enjoying their teen years, they were robbed from their teen years all due to the bad choices. Sure they will “down Miramonte “ and the town of Orinda cause growing g up for them wasn’t the same as it was for others, they even left Miramonte. One bad choice can change your life forever. Bernadette found that one out the hard way. She didn’t get to enjoy her Junior or Senior year, she missed the prom, dances, graduation all over fear of being labeled as a (weirdo) which would of eventually blown over, she still may of been excluded at school, but no worse than she was excluded altogether. That BS about her attending reunions, that is beyond Ludacrist, she isn’t going to ever, she knows how people feel towards her, and when she does come to Orinda she usually travels late at night, so when they go down her long lane, she won’t be seen, that’s if she does come this way. She has before, but didn’t make it to be known, when her father died she came but was only for a few days. I don’t think they had a funeral, if so it was private. Someone started that rumor for attention, anyone with half a nits brain knows better than that. This is the accurate description of all the girls, some people think they knew, but they just saw movies or read article by the rolling stone, that was (pro Bernadette to).
Who is Carol? I don’t remember a Carol? Karen and the others yes. Not Carol.
Be careful about naming people. If you need to refer to them, why not call them x,y,z.....etc. Their privacy is important.
It’s about time, Y was friends with Karen, above is right, they do need their privacy, some anonymous above mentioned Karen and Liesl and I just answered. March 8th 6:25 AM mentioned them to me. Y was homecoming Queen. That ring a bell to you? I won’t call out anymore names don’t matter who gets on here and ask, they will have to get their information elsewhere, I don’t care if their names have already been used all over every article written, that’s different. Not trying to be mean, just respect others privacy, I hope the March 8th 6:25 understands. There is goof balls on this site, “ maybe not this particular one” but on others. So if you want it ask about those girls like the above said use XYZ to describe them. For instance Y was homecoming queen, and X was the most popular, and Z was a close friend of Kirsten’s..We also got to keep all our privacy’s protected. This is more for to discuss Kirsten and share her memories, this page is. How you describe them I’ll figure it out. Like Kirsten and a friend making prank calls, there is holes in that story to, I don’t think Kirsten and that particular friend had the time, they were to busy into school and having fun and doing other things. There is a lot that just don’t add up when it comes to Kirsten and all that she supposedly done. People make things up to make them selves look good or someone else look bad. It’s about time, you knew Kirsten obviously, don’t need to give me your identity, I don’t know who you are, or care, and if I did know “I still wouldn’t reveal” you knew Kirsten the same way as I did, she was always ( Gregarious ) and always wanted to do the right thing, and put her school and friends first.. She had happiness and a lot of energy. She was also loved by many. I was a grade behind, I didn’t really hang with Kirsten, I’d walk in the halls with her, as a child we were friends, but she was always a terrific girl. She also worked in the attendance office, the secretary there just adored her. Teachers loved her also.
Let’s just use this site to discuss Kirsten and share memories, not talk about her friends, not about them. I liked all her friends I knew, but it’s not about them. To be honest, if we never mentioned Bernadette ever again, I would not be unhappy at all. I don’t care where she’s at or what she is doing, or how she’s doing. No one here does. She has caused a lot of pain, for a lot of people, that is not in the past, “nor will it ever be”.
Missy
You have pretty much discussed many people at length already with their real names. I was just curious and confused about "Carol" because we didn't have a Carol in our close friend group so I was just confused. I was one of Kirsten's Best friends and had known her since 3rd grade so I am very familiar with all of the things you state. I don't always agree but that's your memory and interpretation of the past. Mine may differ which is fine.
I’m glad you were one of Kirsten’s best friends. Im glad you share good memories with her. She had wonderful parents also. They were loving and very kind. Anytime I saw Berit, she would always talk to me. So would Art. Lots of good memories for us all.
Why are you on here repeating the same old crap Missy? The blog owner has even given up. You post, then answer your own posts. Get a hobby.
I don’t answer my posts. I don’t know who you are or care. The blog owner probably gave up a long time ago. If you don’t like it don’t get on this blog. Others have written on here and I write to. It don’t do any good we just rehash all this. That’s why the owner probably gave up. It just opens a lot of bad memories to.
Besides people even got on here and asked me my version and what I thought of the misconception of Kirsten and Bernadette, and also they asked me if their friends were rich and we got on that subject. That no longer matters to me. It’s all water that has passed through the canal.
Missy, you're getting to hate if you post here. Ignore it.
I will, it’s just some dummy with nothing better to do. People can get on here and post as they please, or what they please. If they want to reminisce about Kirsten that’s their right, and if the people reading don’t like it they can dismiss themselves. If you want to post on here above anonymous that’s up to you and everyone else. You got haters all over, I’m not one. It’s best to ignore (smart-alecks) and haters. Peace Out.
Hey Missy. I am from the class of 88. I was not in school on the day of the announcement. Where you there when Bran announced it over the tannoy? I do not really remember either girl.
Yes I was there. Either girl you don’t remember, you referring to Kirsten and Bernadette?
A lot of people went home that day crying from the class of 86, they were in shock and disbelief. It was a mess that day. Friends of Kirsten and Bernadette both, things were never the same after that, they just had to “ move on” and look forward to graduating next year, but still something was missing.
I didn't know either girl. My sister now lives in Bernadettes old street. She is even younger than me but some of her neighbours told her where Bernadette lived and it spooked her out.
I can imagine it would. Bernadette is gone so no need to be spooked out. Her family still lives in that brown house on Las Espiral.
Kirstens family moved in 1986’.
Missy be careful disclosing her address, there could be a backlash. They are very brave still living there.
Oh I know, but everyone knows they are still there. I know they’re brave after all they have endured. Everyone in Orinda knows they are still there.
Again, there are kooks our in the world that would stalk people to, knowing them or not. I don’t know why people would want to stalk someone they don’t even know, or know nothing about, but the world is crazy to. I don’t think anything will backlash, they been there to long, and they are tight knit to. I wouldn’t worry to much about that, but I can’t tell Kirsten’s parents address, and even if I could ( I wouldn’t ).
That would be irresponsible and cruel. Kirsten's parents need to be left in peace. I bet Bernadette's house is like a house of horrors, my sister is terrified of it.
I wouldn’t give out any information on her parents even if I did know (As I said), Kirsten’s parents need to try and go on best as they can, and I think they’re doing wonderful to all be considered from what I read. Well Bernadette’s not there to be terrified of it, and her family isn’t responsible for what happened, yes they May of defended her, but most families would “right or wrong”. I can imagine your sister being terrified of that house, cause Bernadette once lived there, but she’s long gone now.
Do you think she visits?
I don’t know or care, I hear she did when her dad passed, I’m not going to answer anymore questions or talk about this case any further, no offense, but it’s an old case, and all people do is rehash it, and it’s like we’re reliving this tragic nightmare.
Wonderful. You trash someone 35 years after they were released from youth prison for a horrible crime and have led an exemplary life as an adult, wife, and mother. And for what? To sell your blog, which I guess hasn't happened, under the guise of some entertainment value and “protecting the public.” And to all the expert psychiatrists on this page whose agrammatical, misspelled proclamations are not even understandable ("I know kids are not the same as adults but it is ridiculous to believe that an almost 16 year old (Bernadette) had to conscious. There is no cure for a sociopath so she is still scary and dangerous" you have not worked with Jeanette as I have. She was an outstanding person during the 8 years I worked with her at a biotech company years ago and now you’ve made her past crime the leading “hit” for anyone who wants to look her up, whether a friend, potential employer, or otherwise.
True. Wonder if this site is truly a memorial to Kirsten or a place for arm-chair psychiatrists to pontificate about someone who was released from prison 35 years ago and their psychological tendencies from scrutinizing her normal Facebook posts.
Bernadette is a psycho killer and people will stop talking about her when the internet ceases to exist. Murder is one of the worst things a person can do. The other being pedophilia. Someone will always talk about psycho Bernadette. 35 years ago was 1986. She wasn't released from prison in 1986.
Anonymous who said Bernadette was an outstanding worker, you are retarded. We don’t care she was an outstanding employee, or do we care it’s in her past. She is a Sociopath who Murdered, so shut up about her outstanding performance, we do not care, it won’t bring back (Kirsten). We could care less if she was on the Supreme Court Justice.
The story shows how cruel white people are in suburbia. Look at these people wanting someone punished after she served time. Spend time helping the homeless, end patriarchy, fight racism and sexism, help the people on death row and fight to end child slavery.
She didn’t serve enough time. I won’t answer no more questions about her, but I will comment. We all told everything about this story and all about Kirsten, so if you want to know facts read the blog. This isn’t about Suburbia, it’s about “Kirsten”. We do spend time with the (homeless) children not druggies, cause it was thier choice like it was Bernadette’s choice to “murder“. We help homeless vets as well, and elderly. We are against racism and child slavery as well. If you think Kirsten was cruel, as I said, go through the blogs and read what we all posted, I’m not posting it again. We done specified about the story over and over, so you believe what you want, we told all about it, and how it was sensationalized, what part of that do you not understand?
If Bernadette didn’t want her past discussed, she should of thought about all that before she did it. We will talk about it the rest of our lives, and her life, like “ Lizzie Borden and Charles Manson, and Jeffrey Dohmier” cause that is not normal to murder. Get it through your head.
Bernadette Protti had a knife, it took away Kirsten Costas life, when she saw what she had done, she didn’t want to tell anyone. They went 6 months wonder who did It and why, Bernadette sat all along without batting an eye, she let the blame on 2 innocent girls (rest), the detectives still tried doing “their best“. The FBI finally stepped in, and didn’t take long for them to suppose, then Bernadette was exposed.
So anonymous who defends Bernadette: This poem is actual events of the Protti case you seem to be forgetting about. When you worked with Bernadette a surgery nurse would be up her alley, she would love to put someone “under the knife”.
I just wonder why you yourself remove comments?
As far as I know Bernadette did get a sentence for her crime. If you want to blame any blame the system. She has paid the price for it and she is still today deeply regretful of her crime.
What I also know about the case is that the Costas family has forgiven Bernadette. What she maybe now needs is forgiveness from the public?
Now what Bernadette eventually ended up doing because of Kirsten mean girl behaviour is horrible and tragic. But she ended up confessing, she was deeply regretful and she did serve time, maybe 7 years is not very much, but she was herself a kid, she lost control and committed a horrible murder through rage, sadness and disapointment.
I am not defending her actions I am just saying: Leave her be and let the family live in peace.
Happy St Patrick's day everyone. Missy, I hope you have a good day.
You know for sure the Costas family forgave Bernadette? Possible they are sweet and forgiving and understanding. Maybe Bernadette is remorseful, maybe cause she got caught, she would of let those other 2 innocents go to jail. All the remorse will not bring Kirsten back, she should of thought about all that before she did it. Do you know for sure Kirsten was a (mean girl). From my point she was an “agitated girl” who was mad for being lured out under false pretenses, and of well you know the rest, no one Murders unless it’s in self defense, but just cause someone said something g nasty to you and threatened to expose you is no reason.
We all knew Kirsten and she yeah had her moments, but she was also sweet and kind. So Mforsamder you are either Bernadette, or a close friend of hers, cause you seem to know a lot about the Costas family’s feeling towards her. If they did wonderful, shows you that they are wonderful people if that’s the case. I know they never use to be forgiving towards her, and you know maybe they found their inner peace with this situation and feel it’s best to put one foot forward and move on with the rest of your lives, cause it won’t bring Kirsten back. Kirsten had tons of friends who aren’t so forgiving, I said before, it took away a lot of trust and peace here in this area. If you are a Miramonte Student or “knew Kirsten“ you would know exactly what I’m referring to, everyone else does. We really not gotten over that. Yes it’s been decades, but when you have kids, first thing that pops in your mind is “that crime“. To know such horrible people exist. I can’t say God won’t forgive Bernadette, that’s beteewn the 2 of them, and God is loving and forgiving, people aren’t. If Bernadette regrets it, why don’t she come forward to everyone and try and make it right, instead of hiding from it all!
How do you even know that Jeannette Tomanka is Bernadette's real name? This could be a BS post without REAL PROOF!!! So unless you have proof this post to me is full of shit simple as!!
I'm so tired of that expression are you serious someone savagely stabbed someone to death and you're not supposed to judge them give me a break
Oh so if someone savagely stamps someone to death and they're a teenager that's an excuse oh they're a teenager and that was 30 years ago well the young girl that was murdered never lived to see another day and her family has been mourning her every second since that time so why should the murderer move on and be happy and the family will never ever get over the murder of their child my point is if people still want to say the murderer was a bad person let them
Are you serious whatever the court determines is times served whether it's 7 years 20 years once they get out of prison their death to society is erased well first of all they had no debt to society they have a depth to the victim and the victim's family and that's why they are civil suits and who are you to just say oh well she murdered someone serve the time the courts gave her it's over her family is suffering forever the victim's family that is you people are amazing give me a break I can't even read this blog anymore thankfully there are some people on here that makes sense ..
The victim will always be murdered she was still murdered correct so the murderer is still a murderer sorry but fact some young girl lost her life savagely and unnecessarily no amount of 7 years or whatever and moving on is ever going to change that sorry people who murder are always a murderer and how dare someone bring it up they have every right to do that I'm sure that person that made the comment that you dislike has a life and part of that life is upset of what happened to that girl that's their prerogative
Yeah ok, Mcgothicemma is on other pages saying it’s in the past and said Kirsten was a ( bully). I’m so sick of hearing about that bullying cause that’s not what really went down. It was more of a “ fatal obsession” than anything.
Mcgothic Emma I owe an apology it was another girl who gets on here and rehashes Kirsten being a bully. Vwinterbrg is the one who rehashes this story over and over and refers Kirsten as a “ bully”. She really needs to “get a lif”. But Jeanette is Bernadette it’s been proven..
I used to read this blog. I didn't comment because of the arguments. I read the blog again recently and I thought it was weird that a commentator became a fanatic of Jeannette. Kathy.W.M you are a sad cunt.
Who is Kathy W.M? She’s a finatic of Jeanette? Well she does have serious issues. Kathy you need to find another role model to follow, unless you are into people who Murder...
Wow!!! Leave this woman be! She has every right to move on. She served her time. She has to live with her actions.
I know this is old but obviously what all you donand think don't mean anything, she's living a nice life and has putnit behind her. She deserves to move on. I knkw this is old and noone will probably see it but she deserves a second chance and has done well with her life. Kristin Costas didn't deserve what happened to her butbshe also should have thought aboutbhow she treated people. Look at allnof you, insulting and trying so condescending like you all walk on water. Leave the woman alone.
I agree, leave her alone. She has paid her dues. She was a kid. I hope she's living her best life!!!! I'd totally be her friend.
You are gross
What Deanna?
Anonymous June 1st at 6:31 PM and Annoymous at 6:36 PM. You have read comments and been told repeatedly about Kirsten and about the ( bullying) so just stop it. I know you saw other articles and this very blog. So sick of hearing about how Kirsten should learn how to treat people better, you should learn the facts before spouting off your comments on here. I am up to my eyebrows on that with Kirsten and how she should learn how to treat people, “we all are”, you were not there so stop it. Deanna the Banana you’re no better cause you know zero about ”Bernadette or Kirsten“ only going by that putrid movie, you just heard that and assume that Kirsten bullied people. Deanna isn’t saying Kirsten bullied, the anonymous is saying that and she only has her speculations from a (movie) that was dramatized around. Also you guys, Bernadette was thier friend as she was Kirsten’s as well. She hung out with all of them ( including Kirsten) walked around with them. That’s how much you people from far away from Orinda know about this case. She and Kirsten were “mutually acquainted” and got along fine. So from now on unless you know facts keep your opinions to yourself. And Anonymous you want to be Bernadette’s friend half at it if that’s what makes you happy. I doubt Bernadette wants friends anymore she has her own life, so I doubt she wants to be your friend. But if you want to be friends then “ go for it”.
No one is bothering Bernadette, no one knows where she is at, or do we even care. So tell us to leave her alone, we don’t bother her. No one has seen her since she left Miramonte ( only at her trial) but other than that, no one has talked to her or heard from her. It’s highly likely we will never see her again, not in this part of the “Country”. She isn’t wanting to be found or located I’m sure.
Anonymous can I ask you something without being rude! Where did you learn to read and write? Your grammar is pathetic. I’m just stating it as a fact.. People on this site are right, I even wonder where you learned how to write, and where did you study English at, some Zoo? Your writing is very poor and misspelled.
RIP Kirsten Marina Costas. 37 years ago today your life was tragically taken away from you because of a pathetic jealous psychopath.
I wish people who leave her alone. She did her time. Yes its was wrong for what she did. But if u dhaw the movie u would see she was be bullied by her. It not right for what she did. U can't judge her for what she did. Only God can. Maybe she change her was.
RIP Kirsten. Maybe if Bernadette's parents raised her properly and encouraged her to focus on her strengths (she was a very smart girl) she wouldn't have killed Kirsten in a jealous rage. Maybe if Bernadette's mother gave as much attention to Bernadette as she gave the Catholic church, maybe Bernadette wouldn't have stalked Kirsten and tried to force a friendship with her. Bernadette's parents failed her.
God doesn't like murderers. He sends them to hell.
Unknown just shut up about that Movie. So sick of hearing about Kirsten and that Movie. That movie wasn’t even close, yes Kirsten May of called Bernadette out on “being weird” and threaten to expose her at school, but Bernadette lies under false pretense. You don’t know about (Kirsten) or even know her, that isn’t how it all went down. I can’t say where Bernadette will go when she dies,that’s isn’t on me to call it out, (only God) but forget that movie it isn’t that at all. 2 nd movie is somewhat more accurate, Kirsten was (blunt) I’m sure she told Bernadette off over her lying to her to get her alone and lied about a party. Kirsten always gave the best to people whether she “liked them or not“ if they were right she would back them, and if she thought they were “unfairly treated“ she would stick up for them and tel, how it is. People respected her for her being (blunt and honest). She spoke to Bernadette a lot and always said hi to her. I do get so mad when I hear about Kirsten and that movie. How many times have you read on these sites that the movie was dramatized, I know you read other sites. Screw the movie and the bullying part, ughhh so sick of hearing that.
Unknown just make sure you have facts when you post. You only heard one side of the story. Would you like to be lured out under false pretense? I guarantee if Bernadette would of backed off, and let Kirsten “cool off“ it would of been over by the start of School and Kirsten would of forgotten it. Kirsten didn’t stay mad long. If she was going to expose her, she would of told Alex Arnold, think about it. Kirsten wasn’t to worried about it to start with but if someone was chasing you wouldn’t you be perturbed.? It is strange behavior. So look at that part first before you call out ( bullying).
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Jane you’re IQ is probably your shoe size Idiot.
From what I have read, she was a victim of bullying. That should be taken into consideration. Leave this woman alone now and let her live her life. She served her time and she was a minor when she committed the crime.
Happy Birthday Kirsten
There was no bullying. You are confusing a movie with real life. Feel free to give the many examples of bulling Bernadette couldn't give.
Jan, I’m so sick of hearing of the “bullying “.. There was no bullying “jealousy only”. Bernadette stalked Kirsten and Kirsten was going to out her to everybody at School cause she was “acting weird”. Kirsten was just a girl who told how she felt and spoke her mind, and some people couldn’t deal with it. Anonymous July 23rd 9:25 PM Kirsten was just plain spoken and told how it was and how she felt and didn’t pull no punches with what she said. She would even stick up for you if she didn’t like you if you were in the right...She would tell you to tell them your problem and get it out with them instead of talking trash and smack about them... Yes she had a few she didn’t like, she never had an issue with Bernadette, she would say hi to Bernadette in the halls, that’s not bullying. Bernadette wanted to be Kirsten and was jealous over her making Cheerleading and other clubs and her having the top people as friends. Kirsten was friends with the head cheerleader, and people in the Atlanthus one of the top school clubs, and Bernadette wasn’t invited to join. Bernadette was in the Bobbies and she just got desperate that night mad made a fool out of herself in front of Kirsten begging Kirsten to like her, and Kirsten got weirded out, I would of to. I also guarantee you Kirsten would of forgotten it by the time school started if Bernadette left her alone. She didn’t out her to Alex Arnold who drove her home, Bernadette just freaked out and got paranoid I think. Kirsten didn’t hold grudges (fact)...She was so unique you couldn’t help but love her. She spoke her mind to a “T” regardless and was forgiving, she was t crazy about some people, but she didn’t have anyone she really hated. I guarantee you if those girls needed help she would help them if they were in trouble. Some of them talked mean to her, she was only teasing them and they took it wrong, Kirsten was like that and people got upset. She’s not the only 15 year old who teased at times, and spoke her mind, and who doesn’t have a few enemies, we all can’t get along. She could be sarcastic at times, but who isn’t at age 15!!! But no reason to murder for that. She would never murder anyone. Even if she did bully Bernadette (which she didn’t) no excuse to kill her. Kirsten would of been a positive influence in someone’s life today for sure, she would of grown out of teasing people. Bernadette robbed her of that and robbed the Costas of a daughter and sister, and grandkids in the future. So Jan shut up about bullying and get the actual facts first before you get on here spouting off your opinions, you weren’t there. Kirsten was s sweet girl.
Also Kirsten would call out some of those girls who we’re goth and ask them why do they want to use drugs and get stoned, and why do they want to be a loser? She just spoke her mind to them, but for calling them on the phone, not really sure, there’s a lot of gray area there, she did ask them to their face and true she didn’t want to be bothered with them. She didn’t bully them, she just stayed away from them, some of those girls were trouble to. If they said hi to her she would say hi back to them,
Couldn't have said it better. Too many people with no lives and nothing better to do than persecute those who were already persecuted and prosecuted for thier crimes no one is perfect and we all make mistakes murder is beyond that and is one of the gravest mistakes a person could make but we are all capable of it if pushed over the edge no one knows what those circumstances were unless they were in that same situation and the tables were turned not all people had good upbringings and sometimes that has an impact on how a persons life turns out thier choices and future and sometimes not some can overcome thier dilemmas and afflictions, Trials and tribulations but none are beyond perfection and without flaw.Not making excuses for anyone but God will be the judge and if someone is truelly sorry admits thier mistakes and is not repetitious in repeating the same mistakes over and over again then who is anyone to judge if that person can be redeemed. It is more detrimental to teach others to treat each and every one with respect as the golden rule goes treat others as you would have them treat you if all would go by this simple rule the world would be a much better place not the way it is and should not be. No one is above another we are all equal and it should not matter how someone looks or what they have but who they are as a person is what really matters if those values would be instilled in our children than war hate sorrow poverty and all negativity and inequalities would cease to continue and flourish as society can influence the values of some that may be easily swayed. Instead of some looking to denigrate those who have already been persecuted and have admitted to their sins and who have potentially repented they should take that energy and focus it on something positive that could actually make an impact for the better to prevent such acts from happening again. There are many people who preach about those who were caught for thier transgressions but they are hippocrates themselves because they were fortunate to have never been caught for their own. The only thing we should be focused on is what we can change for the better and not do good deeds to make us look good or expect something in return but because it is the right thing to do. Vanity is on all counts a sin in itself and looks are deceiving things may look good on the outside but behind closed doors it can be quite the opposite. Many can put on a convincing facade but diligence can prove deception.
Lol maybe your one of those people no one liked and maybe people thought you were weird all in all turn the tables and think of how you would feel if you wouldn't want something done to you than don't be so brazen to do it to others obviously your head is wayyyyy too big and you have no grip on reality no one is better or above another if anyone would act that way to me I'd laugh in their narcissistic face and no one wants to be friends with a fake ass materialistic vain pos either unless there just as much a looser
Oh Christine you have no clue what you’re talking about. It wasn’t a case of where someone was pushed “over the edge“ it was a case of jealousy. I have said before, and I’ll say it again, Kirsten was no worse than any other teen girl, they all are caddy and (smart aleck) most the time, what teen girl isn’t? But no need to kill. You were probably a misfit yourself, I wasn’t, I was sort of in Kirsten’s group, not as cool as that but close. Bernadette was in my group to, it all was about how you acted and talked, As I said, Kirsten wasn’t a fan of “stupid acting people“, who is though! Kirsten was young, she would of grown out of it. She may of went along with other kids when they bullied other kids, in any School you want to fit in, you can’t hang around the odd person out or you’re subjected to being bullied. Before Miramonte I went to another School ( before we moved) this one girl drooled in elementary school it was disgusting, no one talked to her unless they were making fun of her, if you hung around her, or talked to her, you committed (social suicide) other kids wouldn’t let you around, I made fun of her to, you had to in order to fit in. Even popular kids made fun of her, even misfits made fun of her to, she ended up killing herself “later in life“. That was her choice. Yes it was “beyond cruel” how she was treated, but that is how it goes. No one wanted to get slobbered on. I was taught you don’t hang out with kids no one likes if you want to get ahead, and someone like her was committing social suicide.
That would be the kind Kirsten would make fun of to. Everyone else did so why not? Kids like that is the kind she would I’m sure. That’s different no one liked them.
Majority of people Kirsten liked and got along with. So Christine you need to get more facts. In high school stuff like that happens a lot and in Elementary School, there are going to be students that no one else likes, and people will go along to fit in and get ahead, “that’s how it goes”.
Lol you keep saying it's about a girl named Kristen but keep trashing the other one thats done thier time what I think is you either have no life because you've been taking about the same bs for years and it's all the same nothings changed or your trying to make money from someone else's tragedy if you were really a friend you wouldn't publicize all the bs and would have helped the family with expenses which I bet never happened all you are is a fake looking for attention, sad why don't you do something constructive and meaningful with your life, this is not it.
Sounds like your making alot of excuses for acting like an jack off too bad it can't be justified but since you are trying so hard to justify being ignorant to other people you must also be ignorant yourself and seem to think you don't have to account for your attitude or actions towards other people that is definitely some one that I would say I the opposite from popular anyone with that kind of attitude who would want to be friends with someone so full of themselves lol
Lol whose the misfit obsessed with a dead person your the freak get a freaking life
Oh also how old are you ???? I HOPE YIU DONT TEACH YOUR CHILDREN THAT IS IF SOME POOR SAP THAT IS A MISFIT LIKE YOU DECIDED TO PUT A BAG OVER THERE HEAD AND BE YIUR SPERM DONOR HOPEFULLY IF YOU DO HAVE CHILDREN GOD FORBID YOU ARENT TEACHING THEM YOUR PATHETIC MORALS YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT A LEADER BUT A OATHETIC FOLLOWER AND PROBALLY PICKED ON HANDICAPPED PEOPLE AS WELL, HOW BIG OF YOU. LOL YOU ARE PATEHETIC AND A WASTE OF SPACE OR AIR
Also everything in your post says you were the same as the person you are bashing if not worse, everything you said shows you were and probably still are so obsessed with what other people think of you and you try to act a certain way, really how is that, see I don't have to try to act a certain way I don't have to try to fit in because I don't try to be like other people I'm myself and people like me probably a hell of alot more people like me than you had that ever liked your fake ass but it's no competition, and thats what your whole problem is you think it's some sort of competition and who wants to deal with people who can't speak the truth that hide behind a facade just because they're afraid of how they might look, lol if you have to pretend or act a certain way you obviously have something to hide and if you have to get approved by other people that must mean you don't think much of yourself I would never let anyone demean me and that is why I'm liked because I stand up for me and others who are in the right. No one is above others or below but when you start getting a God complex time to bring your dumb backside back to reality. Too bad you never completely developed into a mature adult, such a sad waste.
Lol thats how it goes??? Maybe in your warped mind. But where I'm from we don't pick on the handicaps, we feel sympathy for them and help those less fortunate where your from you got your senses all warped and people like you certainly have no place in church. If you go to church me and my possy would kick your fake hypocritical backside out. You are the type of person that obviously would do anything to get ahead including giving head, go get a life now and find something better to do.
Also one more thing the way you make this girl sound that you say was such a great friend is not good, you make her sound like you make yourself sound like you both have some deep seeded issues, if you can't treat people with respect maybe you should be the one to stay away instead of taunting people and demeaning them just so your not the target of these immoral scanks truth be told, and if that's what it takes to belong than your hanging out with a deranged and deluded crowd, and need some serious professional help, just like the holocaust where thousands if not millions of people yielded or submitted to a psychopath instead of banding together and standing up for what was right against one narcissistic wack job with a inflated ego and no grasp on reality, then all those millions would've never been tortured and murdered and they were co-conspirators as well and were all complicit so they were just as vile and you my dear are no different then they because you also have no morality, there is a multitude of cases just like that which were caused because of pig headed people like you but justice prevails in the end my dear and they got theirs and if you believe in heaven and he'll you know you will get yours too dress light lol.
Also where did you get the idea that you or any group was popular???? Was it because you or they said so, lol I'm sure every group thinks they're the special ones, lol but as far as having to pick on other ppl or put others down to make you feel better about yourself that's sad and I'd have to say there's nothing appealing about someone who is that sad of a head case to feel the need to do something so appalling and immature.
And popularity isn't based on looks or what a person has or how they act its on how they are perceived by what they do with there life people who actually inspire other people people who are admirable not your pathetic definition of popularity. What do you think that you are popular because of how many people you know and there's a difference between acquaintances and actual friends honey and I highly doubt your fake ass has one real friend let alone many, or else you wouldn't be wasting your time on a post that not many people waste there valuable time on thats been hours of your time of senseless bs. If you need to be validated so bad see a shrink.
Lol and who do you think you are ????? Do you think your above other ppl get a reality check honey you don't need to be a scum bag to fit in yiu need a shrink
Most of you sound insane yourselves. Get lives or a hobby. Good thing none of you are in charge of people’s fate.
Your nine comments in a row arguing with no-one is odd, Christine. Bernadette supporters are often unhinged themselves, may God bless them. RIP Kirsten.
The irony of the tone and obsession behind this blog. It's not far off from the mental cray cray the Bernadette was in when she chose to murder.
It's very sad a 15 year old kid died but I go between maybe that girl instinctually didn't like her because she picked up on the psycho vibes but it's also unfortunate someone was so cruel they didn't even make it to a driver's license before they got spanked. This Bernadette person however is not safe in society. All it takes is some other storm of emotions that triggers her. It's also ironic she murdered someone to prevent further bullying, only to move into the internet age where she will be bullied until the day she dies. She can't even run a food twitter without being called the very things she feared and worse. (Also why do so many criminal types get into healthy eating/cooking in their "new" life?)
It's just interesting the amount of crazy behavior this story and the movie brings out in women on the internet. It's like 8th grade levels of catty drama and insults. Hope no one here cuts veggies in their car!
Spanked? No-one has harmed Bernadette yet, so why would they now? The world has changed a lot in recent years and I'm sure most people are focused on that, not enacting revenge. Bernadette committed a vile act and people will certainly talk about it, so no sympathy there. May Kirsten RIP.
Kirsten wasn't cruel. She was no different than the average teenager. Bernadette was a psycho and she killed because Kirsten didn't want to be her friend. Stop keeping this blog active if you think people on it are crazy. Shouldn't you prepare for the 'dark winter' the cabbage in the WH is threatening you with?
Usually when you say things like that you’d back it up with receipts. You can preach how no one deserves their lives taken then when the defendant doesn’t serve enough time that is suitable for YOU then you wish death or horrible things on them. Harassment is also illegal. Parents who have bullying children should also feel bad when they drive someone to commit suicide or the someone is their very own to go.
You say kill a child as if they weren’t the same age and in their teens when they are not themselves yet. She served her time even though it may not have been enough
Judge not least you shall be judged yourself!! Everyone makes mistakes!! And no one deserves to be known their whole life by the worst mistake they ever made!! I feel for both sides of that tragedy! But remember this !! Ye with no sins among you may cast the first stone! And no one !! Is without Sin!
"Usually when you say things like that you’d back it up with receipts"
Likewise "Unknown"
The fact that Bernadette didn't give specific examples of Kirsten bullying her should be evidence enough. Or the fact that Bernadette went out of her way to spend time with her supposed bully. Alone. She also couldn't give a straight answer when asked why she killed Kirsten. Surely a bully victim would have many examples of her tormentor bullying her.
This was a lot more serious than a "mistake". When Kirsten was driven home, Bernadette tailgated the car "bumper to bumper". She didn't need to do that and could have turned around and driven home, but she chose to follow Kirsten to her house. When Kirsten walked to her neighbour's door, Bernadette jumped out of the car in a rage and ambushed Kirsten from behind and stabbed her to death.
I've gone past the stage of "arguing" with people. Reiterating nonsense about Kirsten is pointless. If you think this blog is crazy, isn't it best to stop posting comments on it which keeps it active.
I agree they keep rehashing same BS and been told over and over the details beyond this horrific crime. I knew both girls been on here many times. I can’t log into my name. Bernadette killed that’s hardly a mistake. She took a life of a 15 year old girl who’s life was standing (right in front of her). All cause Kirsten was going to out her. Kirsten was a “down to earth soul” so funny and confident and very outgoing . So she didn’t like a few people, can’t like everyone. Teen girls are caddy I agree but we grow out of it. So most teen girls are ( (caddy) no right to kill them. Those of you defending Bernadette get off this site.
Kirsten was a friend of mine, yes we didn’t like kids no one liked that was different. If they were crippled we’d help them. Usually it wasn’t was people who acted strange. In school when someone is strange line drooling everywhere that’s target for bullying and others go along to fit in, wouldn’t be just Kirsten and her friends. Kirsten was nice to slower kids just kids who drool every where or were known as ( gay) she’d go along with others there.
Anonymous and Unknown, why are we rehashing all this mess. Been almost 40 years ago, and for those who knew Kirsten best, all you’re doing is causing us to (relive a nightmare). You been told on here over and over the details of this horrific crime, yet you spout your opinions off on it. You weren’t there, and you don’t know. Course Bernadette will tell her (farce) side to it. Well it’s a lie. Nancy Kane told her side, I like Nancy but she didn’t get along with Kirsten, although they once did. Nancy said things to her as well as Kirsten did to her. Bernadette was always stalking Kirsten starring at her, Kirsten didn’t observe it but only a couple times. She thought nothing about it, she would be friendly with Bernadette, but Bernadette wanted wanted way more. Kirsten was going to expose their bizarre conversation to the entire school cause she was begging Kirsten to like her. Bernadette repeatedly talked about Kirsten saying why don’t she like me, if she’d give me a chance she would. Kirsten didn’t have anything against Bernadette till that” fateful night”. Yes Bernadette got on her nerves before that getting in her face, but for her to get in the car with Bernadette I think she concocted a ruse. She probably wouldn’t of otherwise. Kirsten gave Bernadette a chance even after she’d yell at her to leave her alone, she’d talk to her and say hi to her, but Bernadette wanted to get in with her group so Kirsten got fed up again. Bernadette would bawl about Kirsten not liking her. So there’s the answer to all your questions.
I didn't realise you were forced to read the comments, Missy. Did someone also force you to type this website in a search engine and click on it?
" In school when someone is strange line drooling everywhere that’s target for bullying"
If someone is "drooling everywhere", they probably have some sort of condition that's beyond their control. Something like a disability? Very stupid and bitchy of you to laugh at someone like that.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Well anonymous Nov,20,2021: Someone drooling everywhere and getting it everywhere and getting it on you is nasty and extremely disgusting. They need to “go get help for that”, or have the School
Nurse make some recommendations. Kids who were crippled we helped them out or other handicapped kids like that. Or Orphans we’d go and visit them in the next town and include them in Activities at the Yourh Center. Kirstens mom did some volunteer work at the Youth Center and she helped our a lot with Orphans and so did Kirsten. Getting drooled on was nasty this girl she was at my old school would get up in your face and just drool on you makes me sick thinking about it. Those are the kind of kids to avoid cause no one else likes them. You want on the Social ladder can’t talk to kids like that or you’re committing Social Suicide. Like Kelly Yeoman the girl who killed her self due to bullying, she could of kept her appearance better and washed her hair. In every School you got to have some kid to bully that goes with the territory and you know it. Sure you bullied kids to when you were a kid, or you were probably more than likely the one (getting bullied) yourself. Cause it goes on in all Schools and when someone is being bullied “you go along” to fit in with the rest. It’s a Social issue. Like any girl who goes along to a Motel with lots of guts and (gets raped) she is labeled as a ( slut) by the kids at School and bullied for it. She did that to her own self and have no sympathy for her. She demonized herself there.
I’d come near feeling more sorry for the kid that drools, or Kelly Yeoman before I would someone like that running around with guys. People don’t feel sorry for any of them, we’re just glad we’re not them.
Missy, you are EVIL. For a woman to state that another woman deserves to be raped is obscene. You are also a liar and a fantasist. Your written English is very poor so it is evident that you were not educated at Miramonte or was one of the elite there, on the contrary, you are a misfit just like those you describe in your posts. GET A LIFE!
No one deserves to be ( raped), but when a girl goes off with a group of guys, what does she expect? Then at School brags on it. No rape is a horrible thing if you’re grabbed off the street by strangers, (or) even if a close trusted male friend betrays a girl by rape “that is awful” but going along willingly, then go around bragging on it, then we’re you raped?! I wasn’t in the (Elite group) I got along though. Miramonte like any School has slower classes, and they’re not that bad, and it’s not as bad as you think, being slower at Miramonte. I myself wasn’t near as smart as Kirsten, I got along with her group, along with her. Just cause you went to (Miramonte) don’t mean you’re a Genius by any means. They have Special Education there, Smarter kids there don’t go around teasing them, they understand. They don’t tease the (Crippled or Handicapped) they include them. It’s the Weirdoids like you defending Bernadette they would laugh at. You are always going to have a Student who (doesn’t fit in) in any School, so drop it now, and move on from the (Bullying) and move on from “Kirsten bullying Bernadette”, been close to 4 decades. The case is very old, even the Owner Britt gave up on all this.
Bernadette Protti / Jeannette Tomanka, what a pitiful bitch. Death penalty would have been appropriate.
For a school priding itself on its academic excellence, Miramonte sure did turn out surprisingly many boring bootlickers without reading comprehension or writing skills.
I'm not saying that Kristen got what she deserved but she shouldn't have been killed maybe she should of whipped her ass not kill her hurt her pride and ego bring her down a few notches. I agree with some of the comments yeah I understand that she did her time but who are you to keep trying to out her at every turn UNLESS YOU ARE HER MOTHER!I went to school with ppl like Kristen and I didn't allow them to belittle me or talk their BS. I hate to say it but ppl like that Wealthy end up either in failed marriages where their husband cheats or abuses their wife or they kill each other cause they don't want to divide their money. The funny thing is is that when you die your money or material bs don't go with you!Ppl that make a great living and become wealthy that's great because they bust their ass to get where they are but in the same token don't act like you are better than everyone else cause we all bleed and sh** the same! If you don't like my opinion oh well sometimes the truth hurts! Don't really care!
OMG you all still are on this and rehashing. Let it go, been 36 years now, can’t you focus on anything else? Is your lives that pathetic you have to live in the past? Move on, it’s not getting you anywhere, and it certainly won’t bring Kirsten back. Not upholding Bernadette but keep rehashing the same BS isn’t getting anywhere. Even the owner gave up on this blog, the rest should as well.
I don’t know if Kirsten was a snob, if so, she was a teen and certainly didn’t deserve to die. I imagine she could be, most teen girls are, but that doesn’t give anyone the right to kill her. But it isn’t going anywhere discussing this.
Why cant people just stop bullying and grow up.... I do not condone murder in any way, shape or form but if someone gets bullied, they will snap. She did her time leave her be!!
Agree with you.
We will never let that murderer forget what she did!
It’s been 36 years. The owner even gave up
Just give it up. No since rehashing all this. Bernadette has to live in fear the rest of her life. I’m sure Kirsten would want you all to move on and harbor no hate. The Costas family moved on long ago. She may not of served the proper time, but believe me, she knows people know what she did. She has to live over her shoulder. It’s been 40 years now, Jeanette is even around, she has another life. Yes she did a horrible thing, no one deserves what she did to Kirsten, so cowardly to sneak up behind her and butcher her, but it’s over and done with, and Kirsten wouldn’t want you all rehashing this. What’s been done has been done. Move on from there. I don’t care if Kirsten did bully her, no right to kill I agree. But all this rehashing only makes it worse. I’d love to of seen Bernadette get life out of it, but she didn’t. But people remember her and won’t stop posting about her is just as bad. Bernadette tried to hard to get Kirsten to like her, they wasn’t meant to be friends. Bernadette should of moved on from that point there. There are other people out in the world to be friends with, if someone don’t want to be your friend, move on, find other friends cause Murdering only hurts you in the end. You have to live with it the rest of your life, and people won’t let you forget. I’d moved on if it was me, and went my own way in life. You will get to where you want to be eventually in life.
RIP Kirsten. We know you were the victim.
Wow!! Bernadette was wayyyyyyy prettier then her victim. It’s just sad what bullying can lead to, and bullies need to stop, or they are sure to be next. Kids are snapping these days, because of it. It’s never ok to take someone’s life, but I can understand why.
Why don’t you just give this all up! Doesn’t matter the (victim or bully) been almost 40 years. Geesh some people don’t know anything else to talk about. You have way to much time on your hands is your problems. You don’t know for sure if Kirsten bullied Bernadette, or if Bernadette acted on jealousy, but we do know it is ancient history. It’s time to move forward in life, and just give up on this.
Bernadette BTW isn’t even around or where about known. So it’s silly to rehash all this trash. If you have kids in School become a PTA or Soccer Mom then none of this would be important to you. You can’t change the decision of the Judge that sentenced her, or the decision Bernadette made, it’s already to late and done and over with. She has to face her decision someday, and when she does she will answer for it in another lifetime and when she goes before God she will sure answer, people dwelling on this and putting her down, or putting Kirsten down will answer to. Cause it’s not for you to decide who’s at fault.
May God Bless Kirsten and her faimily.
May God Bless Kirsten and her family.
Bernadette will always be known as a murderer.
People badmouthing Kirsten should stop. Let her Rest In Peace. It’s not good to rehash the bad about the dead, they’re not here to defend themselves. And for Bernadette, yes she will always be known as a (Murderer) she knows that to, and she’s aware of it, but continuing talking about her, and Kirsten and throwing stones at both of them isn’t good. Cause it’s a 40 year old case, and the people who know them both have moved on in thier life, and rehashing all this just opens up the past to where they relive it. Kirsten would want you to go on and stop rehashing all this herself. It’s not getting anywhere except the people who knew them personally, it just is not a good reminder, and esp. for the Costas family. People who knew them both said they don’t like talking about this cause it takes them back to that very moment. I read comments on from former students who knew them both. They haven’t forgave Bernadette, but they just don’t want to talk about this anymore. Even the accused girl or girls don’t like talking about it, cause it opens up the doors to the past and creates bad memories for them and what they dealt with. They would like to move forward I am so sure, and the owner of Thai blog has totally given up, she knows it’s going nowhere, and so should you, cause it’s not. Get a life, get a job, you have way to much time on your hands.
I agree
RIP Kirsten.
You are loved and remembered, Kirsten.
Sounds to me like little miss cheerleader got what she was asking for. Don’t poke a bear.
Wow. thats foul. You POS
You will always be loved and remembered, Kirsten. You left such a positive impression on people's lives in your short 15 years.
Unfortunately, not giving a psychopath the kind of attention they feel entitled to can end in a murderous rage. They are very irrational creatures.
RIP Kirsten
June,20,2022 at 5:42 PM, Don’t you think this has gone to far? Why are you still rehashing on all this? It’s been nearly 4 decades, don’t you think it’s time to move on in life? Kirsten would want you to, the Costas family has (as I said before) in one of these repetitive posts on this ” blog“. Don’t you think it’s time to move on from this? People who knew Kirsten, obviously don’t like discussing this, for it was a (horrific) time in their life. They moved on, as so should you. You can’t reverse what’s been done, it’s over and done, isn’t time to (move forward) in life?
I also feel you should be more focused on (Current) stuff as the Teen who killed all those children in Texas, and cleanse he Chicago shootings. This is going nowhere any longer. Yes it was Horrific about Kirsten, she did not deserve what happened, but it’s done and way to much is happening now that you should concentrate on.
This is a Kirsten Costas website period. Don't tell people what to talk about. If you want to talk about the shooting in Texas (RIP to the victims), perhaps you could discuss it on Youtube, or create a blog and compile a list of the number of teen shooters who were all on psychotropic drugs and known to the FBI, yet nothing was done. Chicago also has multiple murders every week, which is obviously a problem, yet it isn't mentioned often enough. Why is that? RIP to all murder victims.
Vilifying a murder victim goes too far, Steph/Missy....etc. Give it a rest with the fake concern and trolling under your different pseudonyms. It's been 7 years. Take your own advice, move on and forget this blog exists.
Why don’t you forget this blog exists Stephane/ Karen or whoever. The Owner gave up on it a long time ago, so why rehash all the Garbage. Karen or Stephanie, get a job, get a life. Why dig up decades of a Crime that is 4 decades old? All the evil out there that is taking place and you want to dig up
this horrific crime. I know it’s Karen or Stephanie cause she uses the same repetitive comments and is focused on this blog. We’ll get on the Website of the victims of Texas and support their families something more current up today that’s taking place. Classmates of Kirstens don’t like talking about this, they moved on, as so should you all.
Do any of you work? Esp you Karen or Stephanie. Do you have Children? Just wondering see you commenting on here 90 percent of the time. Well
Goodbye I have more constructive things to do in life. Hope you find something constructive yourselves.
Goodbye Steph/Missy...etc
It's a shame that the blog owner never deleted arguments or ignorant comments. The blog is crazy and toxic and I say this as someone who used to comment here frequently. It's such a mess and it's cringey to read all of the arguments, including some of my own. The blog should never have descended into the toxic mess that it is.
It is a shame that Grown Adults get on here acting like Children. Grow up! “This is disrespectful to Kirsten. It’s just disrespectful the way people vilify her good name”. I don’t know Kirsten or anyone (involved)in this case so I’m not using a fake name. I just know it’s a tragedy and the slamming in her Charector is a shame.
Just to clarify something from a previous comment, I do think the shootings are important and should be discussed, but it's inappropriate to do it here. Kirsten was a victim of knife crime, not gun violence.
There are many points about the shootings that should be discussed in an appropriate place, such as the number of shooters on psychotropic drugs. A number of shooters were able to buy illegal firearms but didn't have a job or any form of income. There were red flags that were ignored. Some were known to the three letter agencies. Uv TX police stood outside while children got slaughtered which is something similar that happened at Virginia tech. The Littleton police were also slow to act at Columbine. Chicago has out of control gun violence, yet it has strict gun laws. I saw a news report a few years ago about 40+ people shot over one weekend because of gang violence. Crazy.
Hope you are reading this, you murdering trash Bernadette Protti aka Jeannette Tomanka!
I doubt it, tbh. If Bernadette was able to block Kirsten's murder out of her mind as a teenager (her words), she can block it out as an adult, including blogs that comment about her..
None of this matters today. It’s a very old case”. I agree with the comments concerning that people should ‘get a life’ and forget this. Kirstens friends and those who knew her, I’m sure they refuse to rehash all this over and over. That is what is done here the same subject over and over. I’m positive Kirstens family and friends and those who knew her have. You don’t line the Verdict “ which now is ancient history “ then write to the Statehouse in California and tell them, give them your names so they can figure out your issues. They would sure think you have them.
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