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Tbh, it looks like something you would write, Stephanie.
No it was a retarded girl.
No it was some retarded girl.
Stephanie or some retard.
"No it was a retarded girl"
You just gave away that you are Stephanie.
As you are an English woman, tell me why the English reek of misery, fish, chips, bad football and piss? I'm just having a laugh with you, Stephanie. I have Irish heritage and fortunately there are no stereotypes associated with the Irish, apart from being ridiculously sexy and having beautiful accents.
I honestly dont know who it is, some retardo. She has to be to talk like that on a page discussing a murder victim, who ever she is, they need to out her, she desperately needs help, whether its. Stephanie or not.
I saw an interview with. Nancy. Kane on cheerleadet murder, they wrote killer on the lockers, she didn't mention another gal was blamed as well. In this article they wrote aboit it, there was another gal they did the same way, they were both bullied and blamed. and innovemt, they were.both scarred from all this, here. Bernadette did it all along. She deserved humiliation at her trial, her. Bff paid for it by supporting her. She was ram out of. Miramomte over it. She should of unfriended her after that, my. Bff murdered anyone, id unfriend her and quickly, she was tormented all because of that. She was no longer welcome at. Miramomte, neither was. Bernadette. Still isnt, least. Bernadette ism. Wish a. Miramomte student would come forth on here and tell us what really went down and the other girl who was blamed along with. Namcy. Miramomte must single out people alot, they did 3 so far, dont count. Bernadette, she had it coming, she.knows not to run into anyone from ger past at. Miramomte.
Whoever supports Bernadette, supports. Hillary. Clinton those rioters, Susan. Smith and. Andrea. Yates. Hillary. Clinton supports abortions, Donald. Trimps my man.
Any republican s on here?
I think Shelley Duvall knows something about the case.
Anonymous.....HERE'S JOHNNY!
Who s. Shelleu. Duvall? How would she know? A Miramomte former 80 s student? I seen several 80 s from. Miramomte post on here, whether or not they were, maybe, they will get on hete and tell us all about it, Nancy Kane and another gal got mostly blamed, Bernadette watched them get blamed, and allowed them to take the heat, no. I dont feel sorry for. Bernadette, what she got wasnt enough, and her trial was so packed with Parents, Students, and the whole entire community were there, none for Bernadette, she desrved humiliation and shame, if anyone did, she did. Her family, and her Bff were there for her, and her Bff caught heat for it and was ran out of. Miramomte to, she didn't really do anything, she got picked on by students for defending. Bernadette. Nancy. Kane and thd other girl. got the worst of it, cause they were totally innocent, her Bff wasnt innocent for supporting her.
Johny. Carson
Art linkletter
Are you drunk, Stephanie?
Not. Stephanie, Im none of your bussiness, who just wants to know if anyone knows the actual people involved or accussed. Not everyone on here is. Stephanie. Maybe a real. Miramomte student will get on here and tell us all about. Nancy. Kane and the other girl who was blamed, Bernadette and her. BFF, and how the community treated them at the trial, if anyone apologized to the 2 goth girls they blamed, someone reading this has to be a former. Miramomte student.
I grew up in the bay area, not. Orinda 30 miles, know someone in my area who knows the case, Bernadette s boyfriend she didnt stalk, he couldnt accept tge fact she was a murderer, and murdered a friend s girlfriend, he was Kirstens friend as well as her boyfriends friend. Bernadette was inferior, and was popular, that all ended. She is a.monster, dont care how of a devout Christian she is.
Steph, please go back on the meds.
Not. Steph thank you, Im am from San. Francisco. Orinda is only 30 miles ftom downtown. San. Francisco, a happening city, I honestly dont know who. Steph is. You all seem curious about. Bernadette, her boyfriend at. Miramomte, and her BFF. Her BFF was at her trial, and she was obstrasized by the entire community for her part in defending Bernadette, she still is by alot of Orinda students at. Miramomte, alot of other s forgave her and forgave her for the past, cause she was young, Bernadette no, majority still to this day, community and students really dispise her. The 2 accussed Joanna was bullied and teased relentlessly, and. Namcy was picked on for awhile over the murder, her BFF was bullied for the longest time for defnding her, anything else ypu want to know get ahold if some.former students there on. Facebook, they will be able to tell a whole lot more rhan. I can, I dont know anyone from. Orinda, my friend. Melinda lives in Berkley and knows people in. Walnut. Creek on the other side of the hill by. Orinda. Ill have her ask her friend if she ll get on here and tell ypu more.
It really does look like Stephanie.
NO-ONE has mentioned anything about Bernadette's alleged HS boyfriend or her "BFF".
Who is Namcy?
"anything else ypu want to know get ahold if some.former students there on. Facebook"
ABSOLUTELY NOT. Don't encourage others to do that!
Seriously, how can you think that is acceptable?
Hi Stephanie.
Who gives a rat's tail on. Bernadette's boyfriend, or her bff. Her bff isnt.much better, if so, she wouldn't of.made the comments she made on. Kirsten. I dont know who you are, Stephanie? or whoever, but please just stop.
This is about Kirsten, not. Bernadette, her bff,or her so called boyfriend, isnt about any of them. We dont care if her bff was bullied, we dont care if she was beaten down by a mob of student's, it"s all about. Kirsten and how she was brutally murdered, and if you talk about your private part stinking again, Ill turn you in, that is so disgusting. only a weirdo would do that.
Why are you so obsessed with Bernadette's boyfriend and her "bff"?
How are you going to turn someone in? Do you mean turn them into the police?
" that is so disgusting. only a weirdo would do that"
Why did you write it then? Why would a grown woman write about her vagina for attention?
I didnt write about my vagina, that is nothing to discuss on here. I dont care about. Bernadette s bff or boyfriend I have more important things to do. I jusr made a Statement that. I dont care about her bff or boyfriend, and. I dont discuss my womanhood, that is absurd. So I don't appreciate being accussed of stuff. I am not. Stephanie, and you dont know for a fact its. Stephanie. Ill report her to. Britt for obscenity. I dont know who it is, but on a page about a murder is disgusting.
There's a comment above about her bff being obstrasized, really who cares. That's an understatement, Bernadette needs more time, she should of gotten 25 to life. Kirsten's parents got a life sentence, they have to deal with the loss of thier daughther, they wanted her to go on to school, get married, and have children. They were robbed of that. I read Kirsten was tge energy of the house. she danced, talked on the phone, listened to records, and practice cheerleading every day at a friends house. She also flit around like a butterfly at lunch and told funny jokes. She made cheerleader, and. Bernadette didn't, so. Bernadette felt like a failure. Rolling. Stones told it and made. Bernadette soubd lonely and desperate like the.movie made her. Alot of the movie was one sided by the rolling stones. Then other articles told it different. Her sister was guilty for lying for her in court. I cant believe the judge bought that.
You seriously need a good kick up the backside.
Who needs a kick?
You probably wouldn't feel it. I know what you get up to!
Grow up folks. Were grown act it.
Talk about this case with Kirsten only, and how. Bernadette should of got more time. Leave all the butt kicking and other stuff out unassociated with the murder case.
Yes, you really should grow up, Stephanie.
Well this is an adult discussion, we don't need babies on here, don't have time to babysit. Bernadette had inferior's on her self image, Im no therapist, but she was emotionally disturbed, and her parent's should of gotten her the proper help, maybe they put her down alot.low self esteem usually comes from the parents, that is still a sorry excuse to committ murder, an article said she was seeking counseling, well she probaly needed therapy and medication, she had a chemical imbalance cause why would she get so upset over a remark about her ski's, and. Kirsten was probaly only teasing and meant no harm, said. Kirsten was mean to her, rephrase all that, Bernadette stalked her, and went to her house, Kirsten got in the car with her, and they stopped and talked, Bernadette probaly was acting stranges and Kirsten got the idea Bernadette was gay and. Kirsten freaked out. Well. Bernadette should of left. Kirsten alone, stop trying so hard and pushing for. Kirstens friendship, and none of this would of ever happened, Kirsten may of been alive today, and. Bernadette would of never gone to jail, which was a big joke to starr with. She never really got punished. She also would of never had to change her identity, well all cause she feared. Kirsten would expose her, well if she'd been exposed, the students even. Kirsten would of grown out if all that, and she wouldn't.of had to run and hide. It looks like she got publically humilated anyway, even today. Was ut worth all that. Bernadette? All you had to do was.leave. Kirsten alone, all cause of rejection, any one who can't handle rejection has a problem serious one. You have it all the time ypu murderer.
I have a suggestion. Do not respond to any more rambling, grammatically-mangled, batshit-crazy posts from Stephanie or whoever she claims she is. She persists because people respond and call her on it. So stop responding.
Well Bernadette she hides her identity, and gets to live a normal life California justice is awful. Karen. Severson, and. Laura. Doyle ate free to, but they served more time and running around in LA like nothing has happened. Karen works for LA PD and goes to school and discusses bullying to students. Well she cam never.make up for what she did to Mussy and the Avilia family they hate her. Can you blame them, well. Bernadette can't make up for.her actions eithee. She caused harm to the Costas family and. Kirstens classmate and friends. Mrs. Costas cried everytime she saw other kids or heard another girl laugh, that was discusses on an interview on. Deadly Women. Well Bernadette desyroyed alot of lives, and ruined her own, and she has to look over her shoulder in fear someone from her.past will find her. If she doesn't want her past revealed, should of thought about that before she murdered. Kirsten. She regrets what she did, should of thought about that before she did it. She caused trouble.in CYA with a boyfriend she met as a penpal that came to see her. The parole officer said she was'nt fit to be released, she still was a danger, and. Im sure she still is. You killed once, whose to say you won"t kill again. She shows her true color's on these websites, when she gets mad, on facebook she described herself as a life hacker. What sick.mind would do that after murdering someone. Read the interview with. Sharon. Palmer, her daughter Bernadette s friend suspected. Bernadette all along for her bizarre behavior in class, her car matched tge description the police described, and. Bernadette was quiet the whole time when her friends and. Kirstens friends discussed the case. She obly confessed cause she knew the. FBI were closing in on her.
Seems it never rains in southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California, but girl, don't they warn ya?
It pours, man, it pours
putting rollers in me hair
Finding clips everywhere
I'm addicted to the tan
It’s a scouse bird lover affair
Scared me lashes won't stick down
Gorra problem tell me now?
Only thing that's on my mind
Who gon run this town 2nite?
This is so lame and stupid, get a life, this is a post about Kirsten, and you are on here with your nonsense again. If you want to discuss foolishness take it elsewhere. This is Kirsten' s page and this is disrespectful. It was the most lame poem I ever read. You keep this up, people just won't answer you on here. There s a journal on the computer write your lame poetry there.
Stop responding to this silliness. Just an idiot.
Fish heads fish heads roly poly fish heads fish heads fish heads eat them up, yum.in the morning laughing happy fish heads in the evening floating in your soup.ask a fish head anything you want to,they wont answer because thet can't talk.I took a fish head out to see a movie, didn't have to pay to get it in.fish heads csnt play baseball,they don't wear swesters,fish heads are not good dancers and they dont play the drums.
I dont see how blood wasn't discovered in the pinto, unless. Bernadette went to her sister in confidence, and, she helped her clean out the car. She probaly helped her dispose of her bloody clothes at Meadows swim club. Virginia knew alot more than she told the judge, no one uses an 18 inch butcherknife to cut vegetables, a pearing knife maybe but a butcherknife, the judge was a joke, the entire case was a joke, all. Bernadette got was a smack on the wrist. Over bullying, oh please, Kirsten didnt bully Bernadette, she trusted her enough to get in her car, even friends said. Bernadette was popular in her own way, they dont know why she thought she wasnt. She was in the. Bob O Links, what more did she want. she wanted to be. Kirsten, maybe had a girl crush on. Kirsten, and. Kirsten threaten to expose her that way. Bernadette is weird and twisted. still is, a leopard never changes its spots, even if she has reformed and changed, she can't Change the fact she murdered Kirsten, all for no good reason. She has to live with that the rest of her life, no outgrowing it, way to late.
The above anonymous talking about fish heads is weird to, you realize how retarded you sound? I bet youre IQ is only 9. You got to be a retard, dont know you, but can tell by what you write.
The grammar she used proves she's a retard.
Retardo
Swsters csnt thats her grammar.
Ignore idiots, stop responding to them, they just might go away. Like a stray dog or cat, you feed them they' ll stay around, ignore them they will go away, that person knows they are an idiot, and you guys don't need to remind them, now that person has probably been an outcast all thier life, obviously they're to stupid to be socially accepted, even for a 16 year old that s immature actions, but this person he/she is grown.
Roly-poly fish heads are never seen drinking cappuccino In Italian restaurants with Oriental women
Yeah
Ask a fish head anything you want to
They won’t answer, they can’t talk
Ask a fish head anything you want to
They won’t answer, they can’t talk
I read the article, all the way through, there s friends of Kirsten's and former friends of Bernadette's that if they never see Bernadette it s still to soon. One mother whose daughter was close to Bernadette, she can't forgive Bernadette, and her mother is more forgiving towards Bernadette, and one thinks of Bernadette like a sister still. Oh well she must just see the best in Bernadette, well glad someone can, I can't. The article described it all, the Bobbies sounded fun and it sounded like Miramonte one time was a happening school, but after Kirsten's murder, nothing was ever the same. They canceled the Bobbies over Kirsten's death, and Bernadette wanted it to continue cause the Bobbie' s were'nt responsible for Kirsten's murder. Man she is a great actress, not to the FBI she was'nt. Her friend Jackie was'nt much to say the things she said about Kirsten, and , consider Bernadette a sister, come on that is insane. A murderer a sister, I would' nt consider her a sister, I'd be like the majority and hope and pray I never see her face again. The other s who corresponded with her, they had mix feelings like part of them feel sorry for her, the other part hated her, cause they would see the movie, or hear about a murder and brought back memories. Kirsten made a remark about her ski's no reason for her to be murdered by her, I'd say well I sure love your's and wish I had a pair like those.
Jackie is about as bad as Virginia Protti Varela.
You are so obsessed with Jeannette's friend.Is that because of your lesbian tendencies?
Bernadette should still be in jail, dont care about how old she was, she committed murder, she got to go on and get a nursing degree.and have children on top of all that, where the Costas 's family was robbed of their daughter having ant children, Kirsten's brother is married with kids yeah, the fact is thier daughter was robbed if all that, Bernadette didn't get enough time and they should make a memorial in honor of. Kirsten's memory. I hear she was such a fun girl to be around, was tge energy of the. Costas house hold, and flit around like a butter fly at school telling jokes, Rolling. Stones talked about it in thier magazine, and stated. Bernadette was well liked, she was smart and quiet, and did well in school, the movie deployed her as lonely and insecure who did'nt measure up. All the stuff I read on her based her popular and had alot of friends, and got accepted in the. Bobbies. She was jealous cause. Kirsten achieved what she actually wanted to be.
Rolling Stones made it all one sided, portrayed. Kirsten as a snotty girl who made fun of people less fortunate, including. Bernadette, and all, made Bernadette sound like a failure who gave it all she got to fit right in, the movie made you feel sorry for her, when in reality she had alot going on for her. In reality, Kirsten was a cute cuddly little puppy who hugged people, and was kind. and. Bernadette probaly tried to kiss. Kirsten, and. Kirsten freaked out, and threatned to expose her weirdness to the whole school and make her a laughing stock. Well. Bernadette should of left. Kirsten alone, and appreciate the Bobbies and none of this would of ever happened. She still should be in jail, 7 years isnt enough. I dont care how nice she is now, and how much she's overcame, she still did'nt get the time she needed, she should of gotten life, or just be getting out now. She got to go on with her life marry a Professor, become a nurse, and have children. Wonder if her kids know, and if her husband knows? Kirsten's family is the one's who got shafted.
What about ypurz?
Wow.
Virginia. Protti probaly helped her cover up her crime, so. Virginia came up witj a ruse that she used that knife to cut her vegetables,I don't think. Bernadette"s parents knew about it highly unlikely,but,her mom and sister supported her through her trial,I would'nt of supported her,she made her bed she can lay in it. Her family believes. Kirsten bullied her and all she did was one timne teased her over her ski's, I hardly call that bullying. We all had to face some dilemma in high school. I tried out for cheerleading myself and. I didn't make the team, I was on tracl team and softball team. I accepted that. I was like. Bernadette, minus the murder and odd behavior, quiet and sweet (still am) and had plenty of friend some weren't regular friends, but we all got along. I was happy with what. I had in highschool. I wasn't like I said a rah rah, but. I was well enough liked. Bernadette had a hidden trigger and obsession, I was disappointed over not making cheerleading, but, I went on and did other thing's, murder was the last thing on my mind.
Bernadette was a big baby. She had her own way all her life I bet. She should of gotten more time than she got, Karen Severson and. Laura Doyle did 24 years, still wasn't enough for them for murdering. Missy Availa and allowing Karen's so called boyfriend who had feelings for. Missy take the wrap, Bernadette did 2 with 2 innocent girls. Well. Bernadette needed life or at least just now be getting out like Karen Severson and. Laura Doyle, by the way, they dont hide thier identity, they live in. LA and. Karen's been on Dr.Phil to talk about her case, Bernadette needs yo come forward and get on a talk show and apologize to. Kirsten's parents, famimy and friends and tell why she did it and be honest and ask for forgiveness, instead of hiding from her past. Worlds a tiny place you know, she's bound to run into a family member of. Kirsten's, or a former classmate, or a good friend of. Kirsten's, may be in a situation where she won t be able to run and hide. She"s a nurse, she could be on duty, and a former Orinda resident could be admitted or maybe Kirsten's brother Peter, then what would she do? Its not impossible, it happens all the time. Im sure any of them will spill out thier guts to tell about Bernadette. Ive seen it happen, it happens all the time everyday, think about it. Bernadette, before it happens.
I hope nothing like that happend hatr to see. Bernadette s lufe ruimed. She worked ti hatd tp get whete shes at now.
You play both sides. So strange.
You have admitted on some other website that you like girls. IS that why you keep bringing up Jeannette's friend.
Who is talking about what on here? What are you referring to who likes girls? Who likes Jeanette s friend? What does this have to do with Kirsten ," and this case? Well let's focus on the case here, not liking girls and silliness .
The only topic on here to be discussed is Kirsten's murder. The movie and documents on here are way out of touch, Rolling Stones made Bernadette out to be lonely and desperate to fit in and insecure about herself, well she was insecure, but she had a lot of friends. The movie almost made you feel sorry for Bernadette, and, made Kirsten out to be a snob, and if you were less fortunate than she was for any reason, she laughed at you and put you down. Kirsten is real life from what I read was fun and loving and liked everybody. Bernadette was friendly she was just insecure, she was popular with other people, had lots of friends, she just had a hidden obsession with Kirsten, and being well liked in which she already was. Even if Kirsten was a snob, no right to kill her. Deadly Women portrayed Kirsten as someone who liked everybody , a true American girl who had everyone and accepted everyone. In real life she was funny and fun. She could of been snippy at times, who isn't, the best of us are.
Rolling Stones.......LOL
The lack of your verbosity is starting to show, Ms Rolling Stones.
I was surprised to discover that the fish heads comment above is an actual song.
The beautiful, awe inspiring and inspirational song could be compared to or even surpass anything Beethoven or Bach has produced.
This isn''t about fish heads or Bernadette's friend, or lesbian tendencies, this is about Kirsten, so stop talking the silliness and start discussing reality. Britt 27 will block you. You show disrespect talking about Fish heads, that must be your vocabulary and low intelligence, or talk about private parts that person has an IQ about 10.
Calm down, Ms Rolling Stones. Fish head soup is supposed to be good for the nerves.
Well give me some then, LOL. Why am I Ms Rolling Stones?
You called the Rolling Stone magazine Rolling Stones. Make your own fish soup, you lazy cabbage.
We're really suppose to talk about Kirsten and the murder on here and nothing else. Show's disrespect to Kirsten when we talk about other things, this is her page. We only talk about Bernadette, cause she savagely murdered Kirsten, and got away with it. She didn't do half the time she needed to do. 7 years isn't enough for a murder crime so brutal, I believe she planned it, and the knife was a rise roused up by her sister to state as a defense for second degree murder.
What is a rise rouse?
I meant a ruse roused up by her sister sorry.
Virginia why did you help your sister by lying and a possible cover up? God sees all things.
There you go again with the "God sees all things" line. I assume you're the one who wrote the following:
At January 3, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Anonymous said: "Apparently God can see everyone all the time. What if God is watching me undress? That upsets me. Stop looking at my boobs, God! You pervert!"
Um... yeah. You have issues, Lady.
It might be. Then again it might not. Only God knows because God sees all things. I don't care if God looks at my boobs. My boobs are Gods boobs.
It is very weird that you monitor all the comments. What do you care if a person writes about Virginia Protti?
Hi Anonymous,
It was actually me that wrote the Jan 3 comment. Others stating what God will do after death annoys me. No-one knows for a fact what happens after death, so others stating what God will do after death pisses me off sometimes. I wrote the comment to provoke the individual who wrote two comments about God and I thought it was funny at the time, but now I can see how stupid it was. I must have still been a bit drunk from New Year's Eve.
God is more than welcome to look at me naked. Actually, I might just take off all of my clothes later and have a little dance in the moonlight just for God and sing and do an interpretive dance to the Joan Osborne song, "what if God was one of us". Do you think God would like that?
I didn't write the "God sees all comment above".
Regarding the "monitoring" comment, not that I need to mention this, but you are obviously free to look at and comment on any comment you want.
Only God knows if Virginia knew, I believe she helped her clean up the blood, and get rid of the bloody clothes and knife. Cause Bernadette had to of had blood splattered all over her. She had to have it in the car. I don't think she d know to do it herself and clean the blood. It''s a shame a girl as nice and quiet as Bernadette had to mess up, and ruin her life. But she made her decision with that knife. I believe her sister testified under oath for her and lied. Her whole family is twisted.
No. It's a shame that Kirsten lost her life because Bernadette's odd behaviour -- luring Kirsten out of her house under false pretences and stalking Kirsten to her house -- was rightfully called odd. It looks like Bernadette was trying to force a friendship, which is obviously not going to work as friendship is a two way thing. Lying to someone to get them out of their house by phoning their mother and using the sorority as a ruse IS NOT going to endear you to someone, nor is stalking them.
I'm sure Virginia helped her clean up the car as well, To bad Forensics couldn't prove it was first degree murder. That would of been the only way, they could tell by blood,splatters. Tom Bevel is a blood,splatter,expert on Forensic Files.
Yes please explain to me why in the hell are all of you up here defending this arrogant, spoiled, over rated BULLY who wouldn't have cared less if this hadve happened to any of you? Leave the 80's where they are and quit bullying Benadette. Ohh you can't!! Your nothing but stupid ass bullys like your dead friend.
Hi Anonymous,
Calm down and find something constructive to do with your time instead of perpetuating lies about a teenage girl that was murdered.
I've explained elsewhere why I defend Kirsten, which I'm sure you have read and I don't want to continue repeating myself.
Have a nice day.
Instead of getting yourself worked up about people who want to defend a teenage murder victim, you should work on your punctuation.
Overrated bully? What does that even mean?
I don't care if Kirsten was a bully, she didn't deserve to die, you don't know the whole story, and you don't know Kirsten was an overrated bully. I doubt she was, if so, Bernadette wouldn't of been so anxious to befriend her. I believe you're either Bernadette, Jeanette or some twisted family member or friend, why else are you defending her?
Are you sure Kirsten's a bully anonymous, or Bernadette or Jeanette or some twisted family member or friend, So if Kirsten was a bully she didn't deserve to die.
How anyone can support a murderer is beyond me, family, friends or just anyone. She has no feelings, she's out for herself and her own needs, sorry will never bring Kirsten back Bernadette. You may of done a little time, but not enough. You harmed a lot of people, the Costas family and friends, Kirsten's friends and classmates, the 2 girls who, were blamed, so no I do not feel sorry for you.
The anonymous who said Kirsten was an overrated bully, how do you know, do you know her personally, do you know the entire story? You don't and you need to shut your mouth. I suppose you're a Miramonte student who had a run on with Kirsten at some point, or this is Bernadette or Jeanette.
Are you having fun talking to yourself?
You tell me if it's fun.
Hi Steph! How's the weather in merry old England? Pissy and miserable, no doubt.
THIS IS ALL SO EIGHTIES!!! TRY CURRENT STUFF?
TRY JESUS, IF YOU DONT LIKE HIM THE DEVIL WILL ALWAYS TAKE YOU BACK. JESUS IS ABOUT TO RETURN. WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS WERE TALKING WAR WITH RUSSIA AND NORTH KOREA,YOU AINT SAVED BETTER START REPENTING AND ASK JESUS IN YOUR LIFE, BERNADETTE MAY ALREADY REPENTED.
THIS IS ALL SO BORING, STEPHANIE!!! YOU WRITE THE SAME DROSS ALL THE TIME. TRY SOME ADULT PURSUITS, INSTEAD OF THIS PATHETIC CRAP.
Are you a Christian woman that's "saved"? Would a real Christian woman really pretend to be a murdered girl's mother and write comments on Bernadette's Facebook page? You're disturbed and I think even Bernadette would be freaked out by you.
BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS, AND BELIEVE GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, AND YOU TO WILL BE SAVED. ASK JESUS INTO YOUR HEART AND LIFE, CONFESS HIM AS YOUR SAVIOR AND LORD? NOT STEPHANIE.
I NEVER WROTE A THING ON ANYONES PAGE.
What? Someone wrote on Bernadette's Facebook page pretending to be Mrs. Costas? You got to be kidding me, OMG you aren't serious are you? That is so absurbed. You are for real? I hear someone contacted Bernadette's husband over her past, I agree it's all insane, I do believe past is past, and if Bernadette wanted him to know, she'd told him herself, and for writing on her page, just leave her page alone, it is harassment, and, what are you gaining out of all this!
I'm glad you're a Christian, but, also if you are writing under false pretenses on Bernadette's page, pretending to be Mrs Costas that is wrong also, leave Mrs Costas and family alone, and out of your silly charades, I go to church, and I am a firm believer as well, you're right on one thing, God is Bernadette's judge, and he has the final say, but don't be writing stuff to her that isn't so and using a dead girls mom. That isn't a Christian.
Great......Stephanie's weird shit is starting again.
"I never wrote that on anyone's page"
So you admit that you are Stephanie.
The following people you have impersonated:
Bernadette.
Bernadette's sister.
Bernadette's friend.
A friend of KJ.
Kirsten's friends.
Kirsten's family member.
Kirsten's mother.
Former Miramonte students.
Different American women, including a black woman.
People on this blog.
Characters in movies.
Characters on 80's programmes.
Very weird.
Strange stuff.
Well just ignore the stupid stuff on here, she obviously wants attention. Don't even respond anymore to stupid postings. You feed into a stray, they will stay, you ignore a stray, they will go somewhere else.
Thank you for the sage advice, Stephanie, but I know what your intentions are. Daft twat.
Sorry, Steph, but your consistent mangling of the English language exposes you every time. "Feed into a stray"? "That is so absurded"? Wow.
She is an absurbed woman.
Stephanie, pretending to be Mrs Costas and writing on Bernadette's FB is so twisted and disturbing. You are not one with Jesus. You are one with the devil.
I'm not Stephanie, and, iI didn't write on anyone s Facebook page pretending to be anyone, Focus on Jesus, his return is near, he died so you could be set free. Jesus died for Stephanie's sins as well as Bernadette's, mine and yours. Are you covered in the blood? Are you saved, born again, and on fire.
Have you asked for forgiveness of your sins? Asked Jesus into your life? The wages of sin is death, and through Christ we have everlasting life.
Did you ask Jesus for forgiveness for pretending to be Mrs Costas and writing on Bernadette's fb? Did you think it was funny to pretend to be Kirsten's mother and communicate with Bernadette? The religious nonsense u spout is just another game to you. If Bernadette believed you were Kirsten's mother and responded to you, I'm sure you would have gotten a great kick out of that. I'm sure you would have continued to pretend to be Mrs Costas until your deception was discovered. No decent human being would do what you have done.
I never did that I know nothing about that Jesus is my witness, I don't know Bernadette's Facebook page, and not really interests, think and say as you please, I have nothing to do with that, and you really shouldn't be accussing unless you're certain. God is my witness, and, that's all that matters. I pray for everyone on this page, including Bernadette, a true believer,would pray for her, and the Costas family and everyone on this blog, so Peace be with you, I honestly didn't write a thing, and where is this page at that I supposedly written to?
I pray for whoever Stephanie is, she gets accused a lot on here to, it's not all Stephanie on here doing things, and you can't really pin the blame on her either. I'm not saying she wrote on Bernadette's page, or she didn't, God knows who it is, why don't Bernadette have it investigated and then you will know for sure. They can investigate things like that, it isn't right putting Mrs. Costas into this, and , Bernadette can have it investigated and see where it's coming from and who really did it, instead of pointing fingers, That is harassment, and if it's harassment they can investigate it, but if it's just silliness they won't bother, but that isn't silliness, that is really harassing. So Bernadette you can contact Facebook with that, and they can trace it, I'm just preaching on here about Jesus. I done all the preaching aim gonna to and said all I'm going to say, cause obviously you're not interested in hearing it, I'm not apologizing for Bernadette's FB page, I had nothing to do with it, and Bernadette should report it, and maybe t hey can find out who it is.
Maybe Stephanie does what she does because she has a mental disability.
What makes you so positive it's all Stephanie? There is billions of people in the world, so why do you think it's all her? You can't accuse her of everything, such as pretending to be Mrs. Costas.
I think Stephanie has a mental handicap.
Oh you need to so grow up.
Why are you all so down on this Stephanie? What do she do? She is blamed for everything, it isn't all her, I sure am not her.
Stephanie, you should of never confessed who you were, should of stuck to anonymous quotes on here, so why you gave yourself away is beyond me, most people use anonymous when the post, so, you should of stuck to that, it is your fault there, but you seem to be getting the blame and heat for a lot of stuff, like posting on Bernadette s Facebook page pretending to be Mrs. Costas, I don't know who would do that, but it isn't funny, it's disgusting. So whoever did that is deranged all the way. Leave Mrs. Costas and family out of Bernadette's life, it's best to leave Bernadette's Facebook page alone whoever is responsible for posting stuff on her page. It's best to leave her husband and kids alone also, they have nothing to do with this case. I'm not defending Bernadette, but her kids and husband are innocent and need to be left out of something they had nothing to do with.m confront Bernadette personally and privately on her page, instead of putting stuff on there for the world to see. I'm sure the Costas would agree to be kept out of all this insane drama. So email Bernadette privately if you have something to say, she has her own life now I imagine she does, so it s best to tell her all this, not the world.
I wonder what kind of a mental handicap Stephanie has.
Stephanie syndrome? Stephanie syndrome is a disorder where the sufferer is mentally deranged, fabricates many stories, lacks empathy and behaves like an odious adult child. One can quickly detect Stephanie syndrome in another person from the foul smell emanating from the sufferers mouth, which is also known as "ass breath" due to the sufferers propensity to constantly talk out of their ass.
Example:
Person one: I went to Mars with Jesus on a unicorn to play in Jesus's weekly poker game with the Devil and Elvis. We then had a mechanical bull riding competition with aliens and angels.
Person two: You have come down with a bad case of Stephanie syndrome. You need to do something about this lickity split before it seeps into your brain and permanently affects your ability to construct a grammatically coherent comment that isn't riddled with spelling and punctuation errors and general stupidity.
Person one: That is so absurbed!
Person two: It's started already!
Person one: Nooo! :'(
wow, a lot going on here on this thread. I recently looked up this case because "Death of a Cheerleader" is on Amazon Prime right now and I remember watching this in middle school, you know because Kellie Martin TV movies were all the rage in the mid 90s. But back then i did not really have a ton of internet access like today so I never researched the crime. Now that I have, I have some questions, and some things I have noticed.
-There are really NO minorities in the film with the exception of James Avery, who played the FBI investigator. I would think that a town fictionally called "Santa Mira" would have at least some minority students even if they were extras, yes? That being said on the other hand, you could chalk up her motive for killing to having been dealing with problems and anxiety that are typical 1st world and typical white girl insecurities.
-I have read "Jeanette Tomanka's" blog and her self righteous stories and advice about herself and her kids kinda irk me. "My son gave up his seat on the bus for someone, look at me, mom of the year"
-An 18" knife is absurdly huge, even by a chef's standards. Can anyone even verify this? I even looked on amazon.com to see if a knife this size was available to buy and they are available but ridiculous.
-I am amazed by how so many things went overlooked and unchecked in the 1st 6 months of the investigation, even with the circumstantial evidence available. Blonde hair, age, car model, and bobbie member status should not have had the polygraph results negate any of it. She is extremely lucky to have salvaged 6 more months of freedom, especially as a young teen.
-I had read in one of the news articles that she actually asked the FBI detective if she was going to be sent back to Miramonte for school. How deluded can a murderer be?
-I see many posts on here trying to villify the sister about the knife. We cannot pretend to know if she was 100% involved but my guess is that she is sleeping fine at nighttime about the crime just like Jeanette.
I went to high school a decade later in the 90s, had a Christian upbringing, am white and was an unpopular "gleek" and I feel really blessed that i was not plagued by these problems.
Of course Bernadette and her sister are sleeping fine at night. They don't give a shit and are probably sick enough to feel that the crime was justified.
I just don’t like on her blog that she uses dui offenders as examples of people that should get a break for their mistakes and shouldn’t be judged excessively. I do not condone the actions of dui offenders but manslaughter under the influence is not the same as targeting and murdering an adversary in cold blood, and passively letting others suffer for it for months while going under the radar. A true Christian would be humble and take responsibility for their actions not try to escape or dismiss. Yoga is also not sound Christian practice and she claims she is a “yoga practitioner”.
I really dislike the arrogance and self righteousness attitude on her blog.
How did she even trap a guy to marry anyway?
Has anyone heard from Kim Carnes lately?
Bernadette and. Kirsten were both sweet girls. Had so much fun at Miramonte. Bernadette was as popular as Kirsten she could'nt see it due to her complex of losing for cheerleader and Athlanthius club. Bobbies was for the most popular girls Bernadette was selected, and she was'nt poor like the movie proclaimed, she had plenty of money, and nice clothes, nice home on a hill. It was nice place to live. Orinda is an exclusive neighborhood great place ro grow up I liked Kirsten and Bernadette friends with both girls, Miramonte was never the same after that tradgedy even Senior year was"nt the same we had trouble dealing with. Kirstens death and the. Bobbies disbanded due to it. Senior year was fun some but it was not the same. Someone who was there.
I think a few girls wanted Bernadette to get her life back, and things go back to where they once were. Well it was a shock and devastating to all of us, Bernadette was a nice girl who loved everyone, but on the other hand we could"nt accept the fact she murdered our friend. It was tragic to see it all fall apart after the murxer it just absolutely fell apart to where we had trouble dealing with Kirstens death, and Bernadette being the killer. Some had to seek professional help due to it, no matter if Bernadette reformed she destroyed alot of lives mainly the Costas family. I dont think anymore people want Bernadette to get her life back and things back like they once were, its been decades ago, the case is old, we all moved on, still get together, and no. Bernadette dont attend thats insane to think she would, shes not even in California.
The 2 blamed ones dad worked on cars lower middle class than most in Orinda. Another one singled out DJ she was from a middle class family as well, middle class doesnt go well in Orinda. Theyre upper middle class mostly.
More fantasy stories.
No fantasy sweetie. I knew both girls. You did"nt obviously. Orinda is a nice place to grow up, but its also a well to do, if you don't have the money or materialistic things people wont socially accept you. Bernadette"s family had money, and so did Kirstens. Bernadette was popular very much so. High school is the best time for us all, and there will be people who dont fit in. Miramonte had several that did"nt fit in. Kirsten was at the top along with Bernadette and several Kirsten lit up rooms with her presense. We just had so much fun.
There were those girls who dressed as punk style chics who didnt have a chance cause the way they talked and acted. Dee J she was"nt so much punk style she set herself apart she was different like Joanna the other goth girl. Nancy chose not to fit in, as so I still liked Nancy. I liked Joanna and DJ people were mean to them and a few others. Karem anything else you want to know?
Our trip to Washington DC in 81 was a blast. Kirsten made it so much fun. Memories. She is so fondly remembered, and deeply missed. Anyone remember our 1981 trip to DC?
Anyone have pics of our trip or any pics of Kirsten please share on here.
There is one of Kirsten drinking hot choclate,I will try and upload it.
You won't upload anything.
Yeah do upload it. Memories. Put some with a bunch of our class on here. Especially Sophomore year Kirstens last year at Miramonte. She was a pretty bouncy girl with a charming personality last Death of a cheerleader movie that girl did'nt look or act anything like Kirsten, original Death of a Cheerleader Tori Spelling sure did"nt loom or act a bit like Kirsten. Closest to portaying Kirsten was 1980s dealiest decade. Deadly Women the girl who portrayed Kirsten was a bit overrated she was almost to perfect. Kirsten was nice she could be sarcastic at times we all can be. She said how it was to.
As soon as I learn to upload photos online on blogs Ill do so. Got a few of Kirsten in the Atlanthius club, a group greater than the Bob O Links. Shes with Joy and Lauren and Amy.
1 is with Karen, Carolyn and another girl named.Kirsten doing a group hug Kirsten C is blowing kisses as I take the picture. Kirstens regular friends Carrie, Stacy and Diane were popular, not as popular as Kirsten they accepted it where Bernadette could"nt. Most girls in our class fit in a few stood out, one girl was wild considered a tramp, she was ran out, Joanna was ran out, Nancy fit in but later was resented by other students, a girl bamed Dee J didnt fit in. But everyone else did and got along. There is always someone in a school group that does"nt fit in. Only 4 girls in our class who did'nt, Bernadette fit in and was popular, she wanted to be both Kirstens, Carolyn and Karen who were at the very top. Anything else you want to know feel free to ask, lots of people ask about the girls who were in the group, or who did'nt fit in. Told you all I can remember so long ago. I only ran into a few girls from our class and only keep in touch with 3 and others are on facebook. It has been so long and some dont want to be found.
Is Bernadette a tranny?
Yes. Her real name is Dorothy Zbornak.
Anonymous 11th, what else do you know about Bernadette? Why didn't people pick up on her being a little crazy?
Well all we was wondering why she was so obsessed with being well liked, even though she was. Also why she had a complex of being ugly and no boys wanting her. They noticed her, but noticed Kirsten more, cause Kirsten was more outgoing and fun to be around. Bernadette was sweet shy and quiet, hard for guys to notice a quiet girl. Bernadette would get upset and say things like why does Kirsten hate me, and just go on and on about Kirsten to the point I didnt want to be around het, thought she had problems, but apparently her problems were far worse than I imagined. Didnt think she was capable of murder cause she was sweet and quiet even though she was obsessed with Kirsten. She was upset over her murder but afterwards she d get quiet about it while others were talking. I just figured she was just quiet. She was harmless thats why Kirsten went in the car with her and she turned weird on Kirsten. Kirsten wasnt the mean girl Tori Spelling portrayed, or the sweet and perfect girl on Bernadette Protti ID segment on killer kids. Kirsten could be cocky at times, she was kind of like the Kirsten in the new death of a cheerleader movie, closest description to Kirstens charector. She was a little more funnier and bouncier, most teenage girls get snotty who doesnt. Kirsten is missed. Her friend Diane was fun like she was. Kirsten was up there on the most popular girl ranks. Karen Krull, Carolyn Adams and Kirsten Winthier were 1st on the list. the very top. Kirsten was friends with them to. Im surprised Bernadette wasnt obsessed with them liking her, but Kirsten did say to her hey Protti where did you get those crummy pair of ski"s thats where it all started.. You had to know how to to take Kirsten, she once said I look bad in short hair, I said Ill let ot grow out then. She just laughed she teased alot and some took it the wrong way. She may of been just teasing Bernadette and it somehow affected Bernadette. She never bullied Bernadette, Kirsten would walk with all of us including Bernadette. Like I said I knew something was off about Bernadette, but I never dreamed she was capable of murder. She didnt bat one eye during the whole investigation. She let Joanna,Nancy and Deanna take the blame Nancy and Joanna got the worst of it. They blamed them guys cause they werent part of the social scene. 1 girl was ran out for messing around with a bunch of guys, they ran her out over her bad reputation, some felt bad for her, some did"nt, you make your own reputation sometimes. Thats how Miramonte could be to outsiders.
Thanks. How come you picked up on Bernadette's weirdness and Kirsten didn't? If Kirsten liked to tease people in a non malicious way, ya'll should have teased her back about her hair and such. Weird how you knew Bernadette was obsessed and Kirsten didn't.
Well Bernadette didnt really say alot around Kirsten, she was quiet mostly, she just would say things to us about Kirsten not liking her and acted upset. I never told Kirsten about it figured it would start trouble, she just told me and a couple friends. Wish now I mentioned it to Kirsten, maybe it would of made a big difference and she may still be here. "Who really knows". Cant go back in time. Kirsten didnt think that much about Bernadette to start with, Kirsten was into sports and cheerleading and having fun with her friends. She was also into the boys not sexually, but she had crushes and they sure liked het. Kirsten loved movies to. She never talked about Bernadette mostly havimg fun eas h her nain topic and a boy she liked.
Kirsten did say something to Nancy about her changing and could'nt figure on why she changed. She liked Nancy at first, then the change made her you know. The other goth she teased alot well that girl cussed and was goth. She would cuss Kirsten. She wasnt rich her dad worked on cars,and she had low self esteem. Kirsten was confident all the way so full of life. She had the funnest parties at her house, Art and Betit was down to earth, Peter kept to himself and to his friends, but was a good kid. Never caused any trouble. Costas house was a fun place to hang out, so was Diane Macdonalds. We had excellent times.
Everyone loved hanging out with the Costas"s and the Macdonalds. A great place to hang out for fun times. Kirsten's mom was a blast. Diane was always over there, those 2 were inseperable. They were charectors yes as teens we all get sassy most do, I did.its a normal process to go through. Kirsten and Diane could be sassy, no worse than anyone else. Karen Krull was nice and sweet all the time, so was Carolyn Dodge. Kirsten Withier like Kirsten and Diane had her moments, and could be sassy some to, overall they were mostly nice girls. Kirsten Costas and Diane didnt deal with stupidity or dumb acting people, they were not into that game period. If Kirsten knew Bernadette's obsession ahead of time" I guarantee she would of totally avoided her and never got in the car. I never knew Bernadette as a killer just thought of her as a wannabee and obsessed with Kirsten. Myself I would of left it go and things wouldnt of gotten so far out of control". She would call me upset over Kirsten s remark over her ski's, or Kirsten did not talk to her and she talked to this person, but not me. Stupidity like that, should of saw that as a sign. Kirsten sometimes would'nt talk to me as much as she talked to Diane, I didnt worry about it. Or Bernadette would call upset saying nobody likes her, and say she is so ugly I got annoyed. Once she called I told her she had the wrong number and just hung up. She got mad and wouldnt talk to me for a week. I didnt mean to be rude, I just didnt have time to baby her. Thats what she did always nobody liked her, Kirsten wasnt around her much to notice it, when she did it was to late.
Even if a girl is a mean girl she doesnt deserve to die. Especially murdered. You can never bring them back, and somewhere along the way you took that person from a loved one. I know how it feels. Im a mother of a murdered Son. So.no.no one deserves to die period.
People want to know if they harrassed Bernadette in court. Answer no cause they would hold you to contempt of court. My Sons trial 3 who shot him a drug deal gone bad, we couldnt say a word, but before sentencing I gave my statement, told what they took from me, and Hell has a special place in store for thwm. They only got 11 years a joke, thats Indiana justice. They only served 4 years so far, but I had family and friends support me at the trial, no one said a word to the boys, they glared at them, the boys knew they werent there to support them, same fot Bernadette.
They did'nt support Bernadette at hers. People were there.for the Costas family, it was horribly packed. Bernadette looked downward towards everybody
They went for justice and for public humiliation " So no.they did'nt harass her in court." Did"nt have to, she was embarrassed and knew they were against.her. She told a friend she felt like "she was being thrown in the lions den." Well Kirsten had plenty of friends, as so did Art and Berit. She.took that from all of us. All over what a snide remark. If you knew Kirsten you would know why we loved her. You ever met a girl who was loveable and caring yet at the same time she could be snippy,but you loved het anyway cause of her adorable attitude and beautiful smile and eyes. Kirsten was that girl to us. You could not help.but really love her. Even people who were not popular loved her. Not Joanna, Nancy once did. Like I said, stupidity did not go well at all with Kirsten. Yes she would tell you about it bluntly. Diane Macdonald would to. So would Stacy her other close friend. Kirsten even if persay Joanna.got really badly treated Kirsten would think it went way to far. Same with another girl. Kirsten would tell.them thats enough she's had enough. Yes she would say mean thinga to them when they would curse her, but she did not want people kicking them or making fun of them in a big group. One started then the whole class went wild on one girl. Kirsten got upset.and stopped them. She didnt care for them, but they were human. People listened to what Kirsten said to. I sure miss her. Diane was alot like her as well. They did not want thier enemies.attacked or badly mistreated.
Thank you. Were Kirsten and Nacny friends at one point? What do you think happened that night in the car?
Oh yeah friends with Kirsten,Nancy and Bernadette. One point Nancy just went to the dark side. In the car, I believe Bernadette kept baddering Kirsten about how she did'nt like her, and how.no body liked her repeatively, Kirsten would get highly.upset on that, she was not used to that. Bernadette did run it in the ground over how no one liked her, and how Kirsten did'nt like her to the very point I did'nt want to talk to her. Kirsten probaly told her she was weirding out on her. I dont think asking Kirsten to be friends would of weirded her out, she would say yes or no and just left it at that. But same over and over and getting dramatic ovet it yes. Kirsten was a girl you could'nt help but like. She was for people as I said. Yes if you were in the right and in trouble she would defend you whether she liked ypu or not. She defended Joanna and Nancy at times. Another girl would stare at you ppl made fun of her Kirsten spoke up. She was like that. Also Kirsten wanted to go to college, think about what she could of been today, Bernadette took that from her. Yes I xan see her successful today. She had lots of ppl asking her to be friends, she was used to that, she woukd not of made an issue out of it" she would over weird talking going on and on about her not liking you and no one liking you. Would'nt you be weirded out?
Of course Bernadette told all she did was ask Kirsten to be het friend, and Kirsten got.mad, and got the wrong idea saying she was weird and upsetting her. Bernadette thought she would get it all twisted and Bernadette would end up like the other social outcast girls. I dont think so, Kirsten would not care about that. I think as I said Bernadette started saying why dont you like me why does'nt anyone like me, just nonsense stuff like that. Peobaly bawling to Kirsten about it, and thats why she called her a weirdo. That I can see. Kirsten was.by no means any bully. As for saying she was mean to people she did not like, let me specify that, if you said stupid stuff around her or stared at her, she did'nt want to be around you that made her very uncomfortable. So no she did'nt like it. She was a serious person, yes she liked to have fun, tell funny jokes and stories and sometimes tease and flip the birdie it was harmless stuff like that. Girls even if they did"nt know her well would invite her to parties to get to know her, sometimes she would go, sometimes she woumd'nt, that depended if one of her friends were going. Thats why I think more was said to her by Betnadette than just wanting to be friends. Im saying she was begging her and all that other craziness O mentioned she turned me off doing. I could never understand why Bernadette did'nt think she was popular, or so obsessed with Kirsten not liking her. It bothered Bernadette, never to the point Id dream she would murder. I was never sure who it was.poor Nancy got blamed, Joanna.hated Kirsten to remarks were overheard they want to see her blood drip' it was easy to blame them cause of Statements made.
Bernadette wanted it all." could'nt accept the fact she was as popular as Stacy, Diane and Carrie. She wanted to be with Kristen C. Karen K. Kirsten W and Carolyn. She wanted to go above them if possible. Stacy, Diane and Carrie accepted who they were. and, still they remained Kirstens friends. They were easy going fun to be around girls who did'nt dwell on popularity. They werent obsessed like Bernadette. They were alot of fun to be around. Like I said I missed Diane when we graduated. She went off to college somewhere else went on with her own life. Lost touch after that. Saw Stacy a few times in Moraga. Marcie Fuller another friend of Kirstens just heard she passed on. So sad a nice girl to cheerleader. May they rest in Heaven. Anyone from class of 86 reading this, Marcie Fuller passed.
Thanks. So Kirsten wasn't that bad and Bernadette was needy to an off-putting degree. She's a horrible selfish bitch for murdering Kirsten because her weird neediness didn't get the reaction she wanted from Kirsten. Was Bernadette a tall girl in comparison to Kirsten? I'm asking because I don't think Kirsten had a chance when Bernadette ambushed her.
Sorry about your friend passing away.
Bernadette was taller and stockier built pthan Kirsten. We never got past Kirstens death. We were at the trial, I waited outside could'nt get in packed, Bernadette looked away. Kirstens family had supporters on thier behalf. We were all upset with the verdict. Bernadette was not poor they lived in a nice home on Orinda Hill have for many years. Bernadette had nice clothes to. The house was nice nothing to be ashamed of, its in an exclusive neighborhood. Kirsten lived in a beautiful ranchstyle house with front yard for of flowers and bushes. They both had good homes. So Bernadette was'nt the poor girl she portrayed. Kirsten was definately not the Stacy girl portrayed. She spoke her mind, if you were in the right, whether she liked you or not, she would stick up for you. She did'nt like seeing gang fights 10 on 1 she would tell them about it. Bernadette ran Kirsten and popularity in the ground over and over. She could' nt accept the fact she was as popular as Diane no she wanted so much more. Diane is the fun girl I mentioned. A ball around she and Kirsten and Stacy. They were almost ad popular as Kirsten they were like Bernadette, but they did' nt obsess with it at all. They accepted who they were, believe me they were funny and so much fun.
You would of all loved Art and Berit to. Down to earth, Berit was fun and funny told silly jokes like Kirsten. Art told how it was and pulled no punched like Kirsten. Art was a good man, Berit was a wonderful soul. Loved to have a good time. Plenty of hreat Times at the Costas home. We would sneak out alot, if Berit caught us, next day we would have yard work to do. Kirsten or whoever was there. Sometime's she would ground Kirsten for a week or 2. We never did anything real bad, Berit would let us girls mostly be girls. She was understanding and knew everyone made mistakes. But not something like murder. I cant believe some of Bernadette's friend's that were friend's also with Kirsten, "wanted Bernadette to get her life back". But as time went on they grew out of Bernadette, and yo this day they don't hear from her, and feel it's best. They were young, and Bernadette was their friend, they found other people in life, throughout the years, and survived it well. Sone are lawyer"s now, School Teacher's, and Doctor's, they don"t have the time to worry about her anymore..
Thanks. What do you think when you read comments from people who believe Kirsten was as horrible as the Stacey character and Bernadette was as innocent as the character (can't remember her name) who portrayed her?
Thanks for the time you put into answering questions.
"I cant believe some of Bernadette's friend's that were friend's also with Kirsten, "wanted Bernadette to get her life back". I'm sure they were few and far between. If you'll excuse me, but I think Bernadette is and was a cunt. There was absolutely no excuse or reason for her taking Kirsten's life. None.
What do you think of Bernadette's Facebook page and other social media accounts?
I dont get on Bernadette"s facebook page, could care less after what she did. Randall Sullivan added stuff that was not correct.... Kirsten was nothing like Stacy Lockwood, if you ever watched Saved by the Bell her chartector was more like "Lisa Turtle:. Lisa could be mean to Screech fot bugging her and acting stupid, yet she'd defend him also. Kirsten was like that to stupid acting people who got on her nerves, yet she would defend them if they were in the right. She loved people and hugged all.the time. She did not hate anyone, just did'nt like the way they acted. She would let them know it to. That don't by any means make her a bully. Bernadette was not the poor girl who was lonely and did'nt have but 1 friend. Family had lots of money and a nice home. Bernadette had lots of friends, she was as popular as Kirsten"s friends Diane, Stacy and Carrie. Bernadette hung out with Stacy some, and Kirsten and she would be together when we all went out for good times. Kirsten did'nt have anything against Bernadette and yes she made a remark over her ski's, Kirsten was just that way to everybody. She was'nt mad at Bernadette not till that fateful night. Kirsten was absolutely not down with stupidity, and Bernadette was more than likely acting stupid and telling her over and over" why dont you like me" and telling her nobody liked her, that would freak Kirsten out,.and get on her nerves quick. Bernadette was sweet and kind, an unlikely source to committ murder. Her friends that were Kirsten's friends to were young and really did'nt know what they wanted. They were in shock and confused. Her bff was the main one who supported her and blamed Kirsten. Have no use for her either. The other's just remember Bernadette being a nice girl helping other's in time of need, now Bernadette's personality was like that girl that portrayed her in the movie but alot more rich and lot more popular. There was a similar murder in Southern California where a popular girl gets murdered by 2 of her bff"s. 3 actually involved. The girl who turned them in, I dont think she's as innocent as she says, why else would they bring her along? The girl murdered was pretty also. The 2 who murdered was'nt as popular as Bernadette or pretty either. Bernadette her friends loved her and were shocked they had assorted feelings. But the rest who were friends with both, never want to see Bernadette's face ever again. They were angry once they found out it was her. Bernadette took away trust from people
Only a handful stood by her.
You would of.never suspected such behavior out of Bernadette. Was not her MO we thought, we were definately wrong. Murderer was with us the whole entire time walking with us places. It never occured to me it was her. Thats why we all had trust issues for many years. Outside of her bff those other friends realize Bernadette is a horrible person..Maybe by now her bff does'nt care anymore. after all this time its doubtful. Back in as early 2000s and in late 80s and 90s she was trying to reconnect with her, she was seen a year ago happimy married with a family. and did not ask one word about Bernadette like she use to. Probaly figured its time to move on.
Thanks for taking the time to write the comments. I know the friend you are talking about, but I'm not going to bother mentioning her name. Maybe she didn't ask one year ago because it's easy enough to get in contact with Bernadette now. I think it's nuts that she was trying to contact Bernadette in the 90's and 2000's. She said pretty cruel things about Kirsten too in some article here. Doesn't say much about then as a teenager or as an adult trying desperately to contact her murderer bff. Was the friend really isolated after Bernadette was arrested? Wouldn't it be nuts if a person on here who defended Bernadette was mistaken for a family member, but was actually the friend? Nothing would surprise me. Was there any truth to the comment supposedly written by Kirsten's friend.s brother? Do you know the one I'm talking about?
Her bff stayed and finished Miramonte. Not many fooled with her a few did. Principal Yaich told all of us, not to discuss the case at all, go on and let it be done. He did'nt want school politics and drama over it. Her bff was once popular to like Bernadette was, she hung outbwith Bernadette and.JG but not Kirsten, just acknowledged Kirsten. The movie showed Nancu getting bullied " the girl who portrayed her" like I said. Nancy did'nt come back that year, and Bernadette"s bff was'nt bullied either, mostly ignored. Senior year most kids cooled down towatds her. it was our final year, and this was the last time we,d all be together, so we just let it go made the best of it. Nancy came back to we all.decided to get along. Her bff did"nt really do anything except stood by Bernadette, she was nice and smart, but the things she said about kirsten is why Im against her mostly. After the trial she was ignored the rest of the year. She sat at a table and people were there. they got up and left. Thats why Principal Yaich said to not debate.
Which friend of Kirsten's brother? Truth be more specific. Which comnent?
Sorry. The comment by GK's brother. GK - The good mutual friend of Kirsten and Bernadette who Bernadette grew up with and was friends in HS. Sorry, I don't want to say her name. The comment was copied and pasted from somewhere and posted under DECEMBER 2014 on this blog.
I'll re-post the comment if you don't know what I'm talking about.
Could'nt locate it anywhere only goes as far back to 2016. I know exactly who you're referring to. She was one of the one"s confused about Bernadette getting her life back. Well I feel she missed the good times with both Kirsten and Bernadette, I dont think she cares much anymore. She has a good job now and focuses on money and loves traveling. I seen her several times, she's happy with her career very busy to. What did her brother say that may help me strike a cord with it.
I've pasted the comment below. What do you think?
Bernadette went to private grade school called St. Perpetua’s in Lafayette Ca. Next to Orinda. The school was a freak show. The priests were rapist. One was transferred there because of problems with boys. Word was that girls were safe because raping a girl is irresponsible and could get them fired because girls could get pregnant and priest need to bring money in, not pay out for 18 years. So start the story there. Her parents poor,.. yes, but spent money on that. Interesting. It was a strange time growing up around religious freaks. The judgemental insecurities started there for Bernadette and everyone else that was raised in those conditions.
I didn’t know Kirsten very well. She was friends with my sister, came around our house a few times. I do remember she was very insecure and would pick on B clearly an attempt to boost her confidence. Sad because K had it all as I saw it. I do remember all the stories before and after the killing. Who knows what was true or not. But I do know that two families had to move out of town because the girls wore all black and kept to them selves.. Believe me it was a 6 month witch hunt. I remember the day every girl attended school when the killer had been caught but we had no name; if they had to fly back, leave the hospital, watever, no girl wanted to be accused for even 24 hours even if they would be exonerated the next day or week. that HS was a tough place especially for girls.
Word around town was that K was stabbed 18 times. I believe that the real number was held by the cops. I remember one time coming back from skiing, my friend and I were saying how we should stab the killer 18 times for what she did. Obviously we didn’t know B was the killer. She threw up sour cream and onion chips. Smelled so bad. Couldn’t get the smell out of car for weeks. B was so quiet of a person we figured just talking about something like that made her sick.
Between 10-15 years ago bullying came into the news. i remember always thinking that B’s case would had been much different today. I still can’t help from thinking that, but largely I think B killed K because K was blocking B from her rise in popularity.
Id heard stories about the Priest"s in Catholic Schools, it comes to no surprise. I had a friend in Colorado attended Catholic School, she missed a question the Nun smacked her hand with a ruler. Maybe around that other friend Kirsten picked on Bernadette to show off in front of her brother. Kirsten did that to me once in front of a jock boy at school, I liked that guy and was talking to him telling him I liked him, Kirsten told me on front of him I need to do something with my hair its pitiful. I got upset wanted to say something. did'nt want to make a scene in front of him, then I figured she's just showing off in front of him. She was good at that, but had a gentle heart. She liked Bernadette alright. She got in her car. I heard Bernadette threw up in a car, sour cream and onions ugggh the smell, makes me sick. We would talk about the murder in front of Bernadette, sure never thought it would be her. When I heard I said they finally caught "wont name who" L said was'nt her it was Bernadette. I said no way it cant be. L said she confessed she's in custody, L suspected her all along, but was not sure. Cause of the description of the car,and how Bernadette was acting. L does not ever want to see Bernadette ever again, neither do I, Stacy,Diane and Carrie feel the same way. I know cause Diane was Kirsten's bff. Stacy was also and Carrie. Stacy said she was crying and Bernadette hugged her saying it will be alright, were all together here for one another. Kirsten probaly would of told about Bernadeyte"s weird conversation, but she would.of just told us friends, by school year it would been forgotten. Kirsten did not care if Bernadeette was popular or not. As for Kirsten insecure, she had alot of self confidence. Like I said before "she was good at embarrassing people in front of boy's" thats just how she was. Showoff. She was not a mean bully, and even if she was, still no right to take her life. Kirsten sometimes came at people the wrong way, not realizing it, she never meant harm, but, like I said she pulled no punches. Berit was a babydoll. Art fixed us pancakes for breakfast once. They were like a mom and dad to all of us. In fact I think Bernadette once went to Kirstens house with her childhood friend. People made a big deal out of Kirsten and some made her a bully, they just really did'nt know her or the real her. She was hard to get to know, took me a year to get to know her and befriend her, she was not friendly but once I knew her loved her. She really cared about people. Everyone has an opinion on something.
Thanks. I thought it was normal for teenagers to embarrass their friend's in front of someone they liked. You should have embarrassed Kirsten back. Or maybe you did. What do you think is the biggest misconception about Kirsten and Bernadette?
I think Bernadette wanted more than she had. Wanted to be top, and wanted Kirsten as a bff instead of an acquaintance. She was upset alot over Kirsten not liking her, Bernsdette took things personal and it became personal. Like that remark over her ski's. Not only it became personal, it became fatal. It was all over stupidity. Kirsten was not against Bernadette, or would of been of she'd acted right, and not acted stupid around her. She should of said its a party my friend is having lets enjoy the night, not been so dramatic about Kirsten not liking her, and it would of been a very fun night for the 2 of them. Bernadette needed to ease up alot and not take things seriously. You take things personal it becomes personal and you accusse people of not liking you, they wont like you. Kirstsn would hate a conversation like that, and not give you sympathy if you cry and carry on around her,"so sure thats what Bernadette did."... Kirsten was confident and funny. I never said anything back when she said that to me in front of that guy, that was part of her immaturity and just let it go. You dont dwell on it and worry about it. Kirsten did come across the wrong way to people at times, as I said before, she is'nt friendly till she gets to know you. She was the serious person. Her little brother Peter she would watch him sometimes when we were 13, met her when we were 12, I did'nt like her at first myself, got to know her better 8th grade. Id go.to her house while she was watching Peter. Sometimes Diane would be there, we would sit laugh and talk. I loved those days. Sometimes Kirsten's friends would call her Diane and I would talk to Peter, so much fun. We went out alot Kirsten, Diane, Stacy, Carrie N, Bernadette's childhood friend and LP. Bernadette and her bff went with us a few times. We would go to the movies or see concerts it was fun. Diane was a flirt. Year before Nancy went to dances with us. But us girls get together and laugh and have fun, but after Kirstens death, things were falling apart. Bobbies disbanded after the arrest, and from that point on, things were never the same, no more fun, and we hardly ever went out after that. Senior Year was alright, just so many dramatic changes and it took a huge toll on us. We made the best of it as we could. Graduation was not the same without Kirsten and the arrest. I was kind of glad to get out cause of bad memories, that could of been very well prevented if a certain girl was'nt so desperate for popularity and accepted who she was. Thats what Bernadette took from all her friends. "You can only imagine the pain we went through the last 2 years of school"... We never went out much after that, we only had the Bobbies. till they disbanded. Mr and Mrs Costas suffered the most, and Peter.
I recently saw the movie Death of a cheerleader and was interested in finding out about the true events that it was based upon. Couldn't believe how biased it was in favor of the accused. Did a lot of research on-line and was shocked at how nasty some people can be towards Kirsten without knowing the true facts. I guess some people believe everything they see on TV. Fortunately, I found this site and was glad to see it was about telling the truth about Kirsten's character and that she wasn't the mean girl some people think she was. Looks like she was quite a character and must have been a joy to be around. It was a real shame, the events that transpired that evening on June 23rd that led to such a violent and tragic end to Kirsten's young and vibrant life. She had so much left to offer the world. Being a teenager is tougher on some than it is on others, but Kirsten didn't deserve by any means, what happened to her. What really counts here, is that her real friends and family know who she really was and nothing anyone says negatively about Kirsten can ever change that. Kirsten was loved and will always be missed by them. Thank you Britt, for having this blog "tribute" for Kirsten's memory. You have a good heart to do such a thing. I offer Kirsten, her friends, and family, my deepest condolences and Peace to you all.
Garrett 1962, Kirsten was so "bouncy and full.of life" she didnt really have any enemies, unless they cursed at her, a few did, and she would even stick up for them by telling other student's just leave them alone. I kind of feel sorry for them, enough people harrass them as it is and they will get thiers and say I dont like the way they act, but dont do anything on my account. She didnt like stupid acting people, but.if right she defended them. She only had 2 she did'nt like, and if she saw them she would walk on the other side. Before her murder she talked to one at a concert,at first I thought she or the other one she didnt like murdered her even though she talked nice to that one. As I said Kirsten had no known issues with Bernadette, Kirsten spoke her mind, if you knew her, you knew how to take her, she was that way, she did it with me as I said.before, I just did'nt take it seriously it was Kirsten. Bernadette ad I said took things personal, and it became.personal upset over Kirstens remarks and upset over Kirsten not liking her" which by the way was'nt so"at least not till that fateful night. Kirsten was not dowm with sympathy or attention seeking, she was not into dramatic scenes which I am sure Bernadette just went on and on crying how no one likes her. Kirsten wouldn't want to hear that over and over. Bernadette was good and obsessed with people not liking her... Kirsten.wanted to have fun, " she was very bouncy and upbeat" so no she wouldn't want to baby a 15 year old at all. We all love her and miss her. Like I said there was only 2 she did'nt really like, but if they were in trouble she would of helped them, and if they changed, she would of accepted them anf gave them the benefit of the doubt, she didn't hold grudges, she wasn't.that way. So the people saying things about her did not know her like we did, her classmates well our classmates can back it for us. Bernadette wouldn't of course not. Bernadette let 2 innocent girls take the blame without blinking an eye. That movie was pro Bernadette, cause they felt sorry for Bernadette. Like I said, even if Kirsten was that mean, still gives no right for her to be murdered. We all have someone we.dont like, stay away from them. If Kirsten hurt Bernadette's feelings she and Kirsten should of talked it out. I doubt Kirsten realized she upset her, she was just like that. We all make.mistakes, "murder isnt one of them" for something that was'nt even important. Kirsten did'nt tell the man who Bernadette was, I doubt she would of made her a laughing stock, by the time school started it would of been blowm over and forgotten. She would of told me, Stacy, Diane and Carrie maybe and tell us not to tell. Bernadette was insecure fearful of being a reject, like I said she took things personal till it became personal.
I am not calling anyone out, on certain blogs "they slammed Kirsten" and they never met her. You can't always go bu articles you read. Unless you were a student at Miramonte at that time you know nothing about it. So Kirsten had a few she did'nt like, well.did "you like everyone and never said a mean thing to anyone" and didn't know what it was like to not like a person? If so, I want to meet you cause you are the closest thing to perfect. No one can like everyone, and that gives no right to kill a girl, what if it was your girl? I seen blogs and read where they heard Kirsten was a bully and mean to people, well did you see it for yourself? So people that never met Kirsten need to stop making like it was her fault, and she deserved it cause she did'nt. Kirstens not here to defend herself, Art and Berit struggled alot and dont deserve this.
You're right. It's ridiculous that some people judge her so harshly. Kirsten really doesn't appear to have been different from the average teenage girl. She was talented though. And worked hard for everything. I suppose Nancy's dislike of her in documentaries doesn't help. Nancy gave as good as she got, apparently.
Anonymous June 6, you must have been very good friends with Kirsten. Defending and protecting her memory as you do is quite admirable, I'm sure she would be very pleased that you are her voice and advocate. This is a great way to keep her memory and spirit alive. I hope you can all keep in contact with each other and remember the good times you had. Don't focus on how she passed, rather on how she lived. That is Kirsten's true strength. I wish people could see her through your eyes, and realize that slandering her is in effect also bullying her. How is that being respectful of Kirsten's memory. She was only 15! Way too young. Have any of you thought of setting up a Kirsten M Costas Foundation, or Fund, to help, - prevent youth violence centers in your area? Just an idea I had. Maybe prevent something like this from happening again. Anonymous June 6 , give yourself a pseudonym so I can tell you apart from all the other anonymous's on here. Anyway's , you are a great friend to Kirsten and should be proud that you stand by her. Not everyone in the world would do that. Remember, there is no true end, Kirsten will always live on through you, her friends and loving family. Bless you and peace to you all.
Thank you Garrett. Kirsten was unique. She was full of life and energy. Her closest friend Diane those 2 were characters. People need to know facts before they start running thier mouths, " theyre a bigger bully" cause we all have people we dont like, no one gets along with everyone and never said an unkind word to someone. Not possible.cause everyone has someone they cannot stand..The people judging Kirsten I bet they have alot of enemies themselves. and know jack about.Kirsten. Diane I missed her bad after school she went on to college and we.never crossed paths after that. I missed alot of those girls after school always wanted to reconnect and for the fun we had to.come back, I realize now the partys over, and if we did reconnect it wouldnt be the same, were much older, and outgrew alot of the stuff we did way back then, also we have kids and careers now, and hardly have time. Kirsten she was all about fun, going to concerts, and hanging out after ballgames all of us, and go out to eat, laugh all the time. go to shows alot.and parties on Saturday nights at whoever was throwing one, just fun stuff. Our weekends were spent at football or basketball games, or parties at a football players house or basketball player. Kirsten was on the swim team and ran track as well. Bernadette went to a few parties at houses, and went with all of us to a movie once or twice. My anonymous you can refer to me as L Dawg. I wont give my name cause people patrol this site and would internet harrass me over it. Those were the days I use to really miss them, some ways I still do, but as I said were all older and have families, and it wont be the same again. I learned to accept that, lots of kids left State and moved on with thier lives. I have a good job I like is an office in SF. Been there 25 years. Love it.
How you met Kirsten and didn't take to her at first honestly sounds like the first time Bernadette met KJ. Same age too. Who is Garrett?
Excuse me. I missed Garrett's comment below yours.
@Garrett1962, There was a scholarship in Kirsten's name given to a dear friend of hers.
Thanks for the reply L.D., it was just an idea I had. The Scholarship was a great idea. BTW, it's Garret with one T. It's a real shame that there is still so much negative sentiment towards Kirsten, even after all these years. I guess some people can't deal with this tragedy, so they try to place blame on the victim. Wrongly so of course. It's time to let Kirsten be at peace. Take care L.D. Garret.
Hi Garret Im LD. Anonymous June 12th 4:34 Kirsten was particular of who she associated with, she didn't want troublemakers, or people who did drugs around her. She was a top student who did her best. She would say hi to the kids in trouble, but not hang with them. I dont know a thing about KJ and Bernadette s 1st meeting, and I really don't care. I hear Bernadette is struggling with depression, a friend who knows Virginia told me. She's real bad to with it. She dont want no contact with anyone from Orinda other than her family, that goes for KJ to. She only comes to see family rarely. They go and see her. Her dad died, and her mom isn't well added to her depression. Also over the trouble she had with the media. She ought to be depressed, maybe that's her karma. Kirsten had such a bright future, who knows what she would be today. Kirsten was more aquainted with Bernadette than good friends with her.
Garret I really heard Bernadette is really depressed. She was in her house for 3 weeks and stayed in bed. Who knows what happened, but Karmas collecting from her. Kirsten loved going put and being with her friends. She loved music and to dance. We loved the ballgames to. She was a blast at the ballgames. We would go to house parties there wasnt that much drinking and I dont remember drug using like Bernadette started that as a rumor to make her defense look good. Kirsten as I said dud not use drugs. thats why she was picky of her friends. Kirsten was friends with JG and LP they were related I think, anyway Kirsten and Bernadette were aquainted through those 2. Bernadette is living in Oregon or Washington State. She was in Texas but now Northwest. Im not dissapointed she doesnt want to contact anyone from Orinda other than family. She knows no one would want to see her, or even speak to her. Futher away she is the better. Kirsten lives on through us and her memory.
Bernadette.is plum psychotic. She was then and she still.is. She wouldn't of murdered if she was a normal person.
Hi LD. Thanks for the replies. Not that it matters in the slightest, but I thought Bernadette and Kirsten were acquainted through a mutual good friend who was also Bernadette's childhood friend. So I guess the two people willing to come forward to testify on the stand in front of Kirsten's family, friends and neighbours that they saw Kirsten snorting coke was a lie? Are you sure Bernadette isn't still in TX? I think she is. Maybe Virginia was just trying to protect Bernadette and also gain sympathy by suggesting she is depressed. The following quote from Kirsten's neighbor came to my mind when I read about Bernadette apparently being depressed: “A murder this heinous is not something anyone just "forgives and forgets, least of all my family. I was there that night. I saw Kirsten's blood squirting all over my father as she struggled to breathe. She knew she was dying and the horror on her face as she bled out before us was something none of us will ever forget.
You may have served your time under the law but it will NOT be forgotten. The grotesque, premeditated nature of the savage murder you perpetrated demand that this follow you for the rest of your life.”
So....yeah....no sympathy for Bernadette.
I read that MRS Costas was sick for a long time after Kirsten's murder.....so again no sympathy for Bernadette. She is updating her FB again so she must not be that depressed. Why do you think Bernadette is still psychotic, If you don't mind me asking?
LD, Bernadette certainly wasn't depressed when she murdered Kirsten. She walked around for six months like nothing happened. She wasn't depressed watching Kirsten's family grieving at the funeral or suffering everyday since her murder. It didn't bother her to see Kirsten's friends grieving either. I can't muster up one drop of sympathy for B.P. Bernadette resented Kirsten for accomplishing her goals and probably thought Kirsten's success was somehow blocking her own ability to go further in her attempts at her goals. BP should have worked harder and she may have done better. This certainly was't a reason to kill Kirsten. Let alone the sheer brutality of the attack against an unarmed Kirsten who was substantially smaller than BP and wouldn't have been able to do too much against her assailant to protect herself. BP didn't show any sympathy towards Kirsten that evening when for undisclosed reasons as of yet, she stalked her back home from the church parking lot and decided to take Kirsten's young life away from her forever. Kirsten's parents and brother still suffer to this day, I'm certain, especially around this time of year June 23rd is very close. They never really got justice for Kirsten. The rage and inability to control it, leading to murder, that BP displayed that evening makes her very dangerous in my opinion and she should have been locked up for life. The fact that she is free and has a family is somewhat disturbing. Who knows what might set her off next time.
Garret.
Bernadette had to be psychotic to kill Kirsten. Virginia probaly said.that for sympathy which Bernadette won't get from me. We were never the same after thar night. Anyone needs sympathy it's the Costas family. I know her bff Diane was depressed and never thr same after Kirsten's death.that was her bff, but can't say how Diane is now. she's married with a family so I assume she's doing fine. It don't break my heart Bernadette don't want any contact with anyone from Orinda, no one wants to see her, we'd probaly spit at her, well we sure wouldn't welcome her with open arms. She knows she's not welcone to Orinda let alone a reunion, which was a bunch of bs about her attending. That was way far fetched. None of us want to ever see that you know what ever again. No excuse for what she did. Anyone see Leela Derbrese you tube "Death of a Cheerleader" part one. Its pathetic" she didn't even know Kirsten, needs to be banned. Watch it its "Anti KirstenA" uncalled for. Yes like I said, Kirsten had people she didn't like, so who doesn't. Did Leela get akong and not have a known enemy, and never said a harsh word? Well she did against Kirsten, she didn't know Kirsten or anything about her, and she knows zero about the case, only what she's read.
Leela Debris when you google type "Death of a Cheerleader" Leela Debris. It will show her You Tube. She makes it like Kirsten provoked Bernadette, and Kirsten bullied people bad. Thats not how it went. Kirsten as I said was aquainted with Bernadette mutually. She was associated through JG and LP. They went out together a few times through them, not together. As for Nancy they once were friends,then had a fallen out. Kirsten defended her a few times after they fell out, so Leela doesn't know facts, only articles and videos. Alot were pro Bernadette. Look up Leela Debis and "Death of a Cheerleader" its pathetic how she turns it on Kirsten. Like I said' even if Kirsten eas that cruel, she still didn't deserve to die.
I saw it. Some people are going to see it that way. They can't differentiate a movie from fact, or they base it on their own bullying experiences, or they don't want to think critically about the case because it's easier to believe the movie, even though it states at the beginning it is a dramatized account of what happened. I've see a lot of support for Kirsten in other places. I wrote a comment on the Leela video, but I left out some things. Anyway, I made my point and she is free to reject it if she wants. It's been established by people who knew Kirsten that she wasn't the cruel vindictive bitch portrayed in the movie, but when some people hear "popular" or "cheerleader" they will unfortunately equate it with something negative based on their own experiences.
Yes Karen, Kirsten had her moments as I said, she was cool and funny. She could at times be sarcastic as anyone is, were not perfect, but she was funny also made you laugh, not at anyone else's expensive, I said before, she would stick up for people she didn't like, if they were in the right. Leela probaly going on a snob girl she knew. Kirsten liked music and to go to parties and practice cheers all those things a 15 year old liked to do, not go around bullying people. " If she bullied Bernadette, then why did she ride with her" and why did Bernadette want her as a friend. She made a commwnt upsetting Bernadette, Kirsten was like that. She wasn't mad at her obviously or she'd never rode with her. She wasn't mad till Bernadette started getting weird with her accussing her of not liking her. Bernadette was obsessed with Kirsten hating her when she didn't, Bernadette took things personal, and so it became personal. You can't accuse people of hating you when they don't, otherwise they will end up hating you. Bernadette had inferiority issues, she may regret what she did, to late, cant turn back time. Diane was never the same after all this, once she found out who the killer was, she was deinately not the same. She missed Kirsten badly. In earlier articles Diane was Kirstens bff. She was alot of fun, hear she takes life more serously now. You couldn't ask for a funnier pair than Kirsten and Diane. Leela had to of been there to know Kirsten, Kirsten didn't put up with stupidity or stupid acting people in trouble. She didn't.bully them, she just didn't associate with them, other than saying hello, outside of that she stayed away from them. She didn't want to get in trouble and jeopardize her chance of becoming a cheerleader, and getting into a good college. Thats why she was picky about her friends. Bernadette wasn't poor like Leela stated, Bernadette lived on Orinda hill in a nice home, they had lots of money, and nice clothes, maybe not as rich as sone. They were well to do. Thats how she got in the Bobbies. Bernadette was as popular as Kirstens friend Diane. Now a girl there came from lower middle class her dad worked on cars, had moss on thier roof. She was bullied, not by Kirsten, Kirsten told people leave her alone. Another girl middleclass was bullied not by Kirsten. One was goth like Nancy, other wasn't very pretty or smart. Orinda was a community that wanted uppee middle class and kuds who did well, or you weren't accepted. Bernadette wasn't that kid, she was popular at Miramonte, almost as popular as Kirsten, Karen K. Kirsten W and Carolyn our homecoming queen. They were at the very top, Bernadette, Diane and them was a step behind them.
Leela Debris's video is irresponsible to say the least. Extremely biased. Perhaps she should do more research before posting. Just helps to stereotype the whole cheerleader thing, sad to say the least. Still no reason to murder someone. Peace.
The Randall.Sullivans article is pro Bernadette, thats what the movie was based on. Kirsten wasn't really mean to people she didn't like. She would tell them if they were acting stupid that "she didn't want to hear they're stupidity.' A couple of the goth girls cussed her, "she told them off in a way to make them feel stupid." I liked Nancy Kane don't know exactly what happened there. Kirsten use to like her, they fell out. Leela should go directly to Principal Yaichs if she wants facts, "other than by me" or other Miramonte students from 1984. I sure hope none of the Costas's see that video.. I suspose Lella never said any unkind word to a soul, and was nice to everybody in high school. Every teen girl has moments and people they dont like. If Leela didn't I want to meet her. O bet she had alot she didnt like. She looks like the type. Well I wont judge unlike her. Most people liked Kirsten, and Kirsten liked most people. She was friendly and funny with kids other's didn't like. She even liked them, she didn't run with them cause alot of them were always in trouble and Kirsten had a repitation to protect. Yeachers loved Kirsten and her circle of friends.
The only thing you can do is respectfully give facts about the case. Maybe it will encourage them to look into things further. Maybe it won't. Leela allowed my comment on her video, so she appears to be open to different points of view. I've recently looked back at older comments on this blog addressing criticism of Kirsten, or when people called me names and I wish I dealt with it a bit better. I was calm when responding to pro Bernadette supporters, but it probably doesn't come across that way. Responding to name calling with sarcasm didn't help, I suppose.
So Nancy and Kirsten were friends once?
Did Kirsten see the "I want to see your blood drip, drip" comment on Nancy's notebook. I feel bad for Nancy, but at least she was able to give as good as she got. I don't see her as a victim of Kirsten, I see her as a victim of Bernadette. Kirsten and Nancy would have grown out of antagonising each other. I have no sympathy for Bernadette. There was just no excuse for her killing Kirsten. None.
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Anonymous June 14 10:04 AM, L.D.? I really believe the movie should have clearly stated that it was VERY LOOSELY based on real events. I think it was more about getting an anti bullying message out there, than anything else. I also think that most of these Internet warriors, are kind of doing the same thing. Yes, i'm sure we all believe that people shouldn't bully, but society seems to be getting a thin skin to comments or jokes that may be directed at them. Not everything is harassment or bullying. The impression I get, is that everyone is trying to imply that Kirsten's actions somehow led to her death. Teasing , jokes or remarks are by no means justification to murder someone. People need to toughen up. They also should not project their experiences onto Kirsten, it will not change their reality. It's easy to see from Kirsten's photos on this site, that she was a confident, bubbly teenager, too bad all kids can't be that way. Still no reason to vilify her when she can't defend herself. I'm sure that most of the negative comments are from people with low self esteem who still believe that people like Kirsten were the cause of their inferiority complexes. High school life is tough for some and fun for others but it's over so fast it doesn't really matter. No one is who they where in school. We all grow up eventually. Kirsten was the victim here and people should remember that. The blame game doesn't help anyone. At the end of the day Bernadette made choices that led her down this path, no one else. She is responsible and putting it out of her mind will not change that. That is a matter of record. Her excuse that " I couldn't let her tell, I couldn't let her tell" wasn't justification to take Kirsten's life. The truth is out there to find, just look. Kirsten's reputation can't be tarnished by anyone. She was who she was.
Peace.
Well once Kirsten and Nancy did get along well. Nancy changed her image and it upset Kirsten. Kirsten told Nancy about it asking her why is she a loser now and did get smart. Yes it wasnt right for Kirsten to do that, but that's how she was. Kirsten didn't want to hang with the bad crowd, that really upset her a friend was going bad and getting in trouble. Nancy cussed her and they stopped speaking after that. Im not sure if Kirsten saw Nancys notebook. Kirsten was interested in music, going to games, and fun parties. Bernadette was fun to, but now she's low in my book. I hope no one wants to hear from her now from Orinda, she's the least of our topics. I hope she's very far away and we never see her again. I doubt we will, she don't want contact from anyone here in Orinda, she knows she isn't welcome. Rumor was she was attending our 30 year reunion. All to far fetched, she wont attend no 30 40,50 or 60 year. Shes done around Orinda, been done. Kirstens memory lives in us, I once dreamed she came to me told me she was still alive. Maybe her telling me She's so much happier, and in Peace and Harmony. She's an Angel now I believe. It was a peaceful dream and she was so peaceful in the dream unlike earth. I bwlieve that they visit you in dreams. Its not impossible. She's far better off and one day we will all meet her. She believed in God and prayed every night. I guarantee she prayed for Nancy and the other she didnt like, I can guarantee she asked God to forgive her over it. You know the girl who can be sarcastic at tines, but yet is funny and if in trouble she defends them, if they're right? That's Kirsten you couldn't help but love her. Ever know a girl like that? She was Lisa Turtle on" Saved by the bell" she was a real commedian. Leela you getting all this? She wasn't nothing like Regina George, Stacy Lockwood in the movie. 2nd Death of a Cherrleader, she was a little like Kelly Lock but a little more funnier and nicer. She didnt tell Alex Arnokd about Bernadette, I doubt she'd made Bernadette a laughing stock, itd all blown over before school started, Bernadette panicked and went to extremes. Just a girl who we love and miss dearly all over jealousy and inferority. Its not normal at all. Bernadette had alot going for her, we loved her till we found out she murdered. Her one child hood friend and her bff for years wanted to see her again, I was told her childhood friend didn't care anymore and realized Bernadette is a killer, and don't want to see her. She fibally woke up. LP she dont want nothing to do with Bernadette, hasnt since the murder, she"s glad her childhood friend woke up and realize that what she did was horrific. I will find out if Bernadette's depressed, probaly to attract sympathy. She should be if she isn't. Mrs. Costas was down to Earth and so funny, told jokes, cut up with us kids, she would smack us in the butt and run and hide. Kirsten had her sense of humor. Went by Kirsten's she would flip me and tease me, I flipped her back, she got Berit, Betit asked me if I had license to fly it. Her dad was nice, he could be direct like Kirsten, speak his mind and let you know how he felt. Sometimes he could say things to make ypu mad. Berit was a doll. We would play music she would come out dancing and hollaring. She was hilarious, Kirsten got that from her. Rest Peacefully Kirsten.
Another Id call Kirsten Berit would answer, Id say I wanted to talk to oKirsten about school and it won't be foolishness. Berit said heck Id rather talk about foolishbess. I don't think Berit has her sense of humor anymore after Kirsten's death.
Mrs Costas was quiet. So was Mr Costas. Kirsten was the loud one in the house.
They were quiet till you got to know them. Art was most quiet. Berit was some but entertained Kirstens friends. Kirsten was the most energy in the house. She loved loud musiv and dancing. Art was plain spoken as I said, but mostly quiet and laid back.. Berit was laid back to, wasn't as loud as Kirsten but she was energy around Kirsten's friends, once she knew you.
Why do you think Bernadette wasn't chosen for the yearbook staff? Do you think this blog is disrespectful?
No this.blog isn't disrespectful at all. Lots of girls werent chosen for yearbook staff, and Atlanthius club, Bernadette wanted it all, Bobbies wasn't enough. Ill tell you disrespect, Leela Debris "Youtube" and someone on there saying Kirsten taunted and bullied Bernadette. When Kirsten got with Berns childhood friend and Bernadette, Kirsten wss drinking ice water and flipped ice on Bernadette, it upset Bernadette. Kirsten wasn't perfect, she was a teenager and teenage girls do stuff all the time. Kirsten let Bernadette in her house, they'd go back and forth. Kirsten was loveable and cute and so darn funny. Even the homecomimg queen Carolyn soe girls say she was nasty to them. Can't picture that one. The point isvwe all can't get along, no excuse to kill. I did hear Bernadette struggles with depression. Now KJ always wanted to reconnect with Bernadette, childhood friend did to for years, heard she outgrew her. She just missed old times we had a ball, her childhood friend was conceplating on Kirsten as well missing her, dont think she really knew what she wanted. It was just a tradgedy that changed our lives, dealing and struggling. Bernadette was fun to with her childhood friend. Bernadette isn't coming back here, she needs to stay where she's at, She went to SF years ago to see her sister. So those haters who's bashing Kirsten, bet you never ever said an unkind word.to anyone. Thats disrespectful.
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