Bernadette Protti aka Jeannette Tomanka 
Virginia Protti Varela the CEO
Bernadette has changed her name to Jeannette Tomanka. A quick Google search and you will see what she has been up to. She also runs a fake Facebook and Twitter account where she uses her name but changes the location to through web sleuths off into thinking that's not her. But pay close attention to the page. She never shows her face or has photos and her friends and family call her Bernie, but she quickly deletes those comments. I don't know why other blogs will not out her. It isn't illegal and I would never post her numbers or addresses even though they are easily google-able. I'm not protecting a murderer. If she committed that crime today she would still be locked up.
Oh, and Virginia and Jeannette or Bernie don't even bother with the dumb and senseless comments you leave. I suggest you change your name again or better yet just apologize to the Costas family and own the fact your're a killer. That's a fact. And now your sister is a a millionaire and it was her knife. So she claims. The Costas family should sue you clowns for every penny your worth since you guys are not "poor" anymore.
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ReplyDeleteGirl bye
DeleteYou are definitely obsessed.
ReplyDeleteYou're "honoring" Kirsten, but this blog is all about lynching Bernadette? And her family members -- even ones that weren't involved in the original incident?!?
I think hippichick40 has some good points. How do you know for a fact that she didn't already apologize to the Costas family? In fact, didn't she apologize at the end of the trial? For that matter, how do you know for a fact that Bernadette and this Jeannette are the same person? Do you have proof of this? If you don't, you might be beating up on someone who isn't involved.
So, basically, you've appointed yourself a vigilante, haven't you?
According to the news articles, Bernadette did her time for a teenage crime that was committed 30 years ago, and now you have appointed yourself to personally punish her, even though you are not related to the victim in any way?
You really need to get a life!
Agree, this particular blog crosses a line. The owner, who has chosen to remain anonymous (gotta love the irony), even mentions Bernadette now has "at least one child", but doesn't seem to consider the impact of this disclosure on innocent family members. Or maybe she did consider it, and went ahead with it anyway. At any rate... it's pretty despicable.
ReplyDeleteWhy all of the secrecy about Bernadette? And, what happened to freedom of speech? It's ok for Bernadette to murder someone but it's not ok to out her? I have never seen such protection for a murderer before. She took someones child! Her parents never saw her graduate, go to college, marry, or have children. Bernadette got to do all of those things. I don't feel sorry for her.
ReplyDeleteI agree, Bernadette intentionslly, deliberately, malicously stole all the things she enjoys, college, marriage and yes even children from the poor Costa girl. That's the problem, too many people don't remember the real victim.
DeleteWho said anything about it being okay to murder?!? Do you understand that in order to discuss something, it doesn't distract anybody to say stuff that's not actually the point, right?
ReplyDelete"I have never seen such protection for a murderer before...": so, you're keeping tabs on the lives of a number of murderers or ex-criminals, I take it, so you have a basis for comparison when you said this? And, you're again digressing from the point - it's hardly "protection" to post a comment on a blog, LOL!
But, back to the points that have been raised:
- The writer has convinced themself that these 2 people are the same, but they don't show us real proof;
- Even beyond that nicety, the news reports state that Bernadette confessed, plead guilty, and the court convicted her and sent her to prison. Some of you folks seems stuck at that point - choosing to disregard the fact that she apparently did her time in full & has therefor satisfied her debt to society. You've taken it upon yourself to try to exact revenge and take the law in your own hands, invade privacy, harass children or nonresponsible family members, or just commit defamation on what are apparently now law-abiding citizens.
- It's clear that you recognize this is inappropriate & perhaps some of these activities are even illegal, because you're lobbing your hate around while hiding behind anonymity. If you REALLY believe what you're doing is right, you should hold your head up high & put your name on what you're doing!
- It seems like your beef is with the legal system - you should probably take that up with your legislators, rather than endlessly rehashing stuff that happened 30 years ago. If we're comparing who looks crazy in this deal, some of you are looking pretty psycho stalker-ish.
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ReplyDelete- This blog post makes a whole bunch of assumptions that don't seem to be proven & maybe reveal more about the frustrations of the writer. It says Bernadette changed her name, but there isn't any proof shown. It says that a person named Jeannette has a "fake" social media account, but there there's no other proof offered, other than "she doesn't show her face" - which seems like a pretty reasonable caution considering the crazies out there, such as the author of this blog. A lack of evidence isn't "proof". It also says "if she committed the crime today, she'd still be locked up" - which seems like an incorrect assumption, since juveniles frequently are given lighter sentences & since there were apparently mitigating factors involved, such as bullying.
- This blog post says Bernadette & sister threaten people - and, no proof again. The post also says she never apologized to the Kostas family - how does the writer know this? It also says her sister's a millionaire - there's no proof offered, but beyond that, who cares? It says the Kostas should sue Bernadette, but how does the author know this didn't already happen?!? In fact, I read a rumor elsewhere that there had been a civil suit, way back when. The author seems to want to exact revenge for the Kostas, but for all we know they may've ultimately decided to forgive Bernadette and/or at least move on with their lives -- something that psychologically healthy people frequently will choose to do.
- The post is titled "your ballroom days are over", which also seems to be assuming that Bernadette is living some sort of glamorous life. I think that title says a lot - the author has made up some fantasy picture of how she imagines Bernadette is living, and is jealous that someone who once made a mistake could prosper. I bet the author is actually poor & low-class (maybe nobody wants to work with or be friends with someone, if she's this mean and petty).
My whole point is that this quite a lot of assumptions not in evidence appear to be made her in a carelessly destructive manner, and people not guilty of the crime are being lumped in as part of the target of this crazed vigilante person who is stuck on something from decades ago that society has decided was entirely resolved.
You sound more psycho than Bernadette. Holy sheep shit. Please, get help.
ReplyDeleteAmen to that Jennifer!!
ReplyDeleteThere is plenty of proof to all of those statements. You can google her name and in oklahoma there is record of her name change and then a change again to her current name. She never apologized for what she did not would an apology even begin to replace the beautiful daughter the Costas lost. They have moved on but your heartless to think for a minute it hasn't gravely effected their lives and all the people who knew and loved Kirsten. I lived through it. We were all robbed of a beautiful person. That bully bull$&#% is insane. I was there. Bernadette was obsessed of Kirsten and everything she had. She admitted to it. It's on record. She also never said what happened in the car which has always left a great mystery and no closure to the people who knew Kirsten. Many things Sally says have not been proven have indeed been proven on other sites dedicated to the death of a cheerleader. Everyone has a right to their opinion. It's the US of A.
It is no doubt tragic for all those involved. I feel badly for bernadettes parents that have to live with the fact that they raised a child who committed murder. I however think her sister who claimed the knife was in the car to cut vegetables is immoral and should not be able to sleep at night. Talk about a guilty conscience. The end.
Oh, great -- Googling someone's name is proof? You're not going to link to the documents you say prove this? Again, if you're going to make a representation, perhaps you should cite or link to the stuff that you claim backs up your statement. I hope you don't ever serve on a jury, with such a loose concept of what constitutes evidence!
ReplyDeleteI never said this didn't gravely affect people's lives. You acknowledge that the Costas moved on, so apparently there's no basis for the writer of this blog to be actively seeking revenge today -- you've proved one of my points.
The bullying mentions are apparently not insane. How about this for supportive proof about that -- according to the Lady's Home Journal article published in November of 1985, "The Cheerleader Murder", about the girl initially suspected due to falling out from the popular clique, "Even people who weren’t close to either girl said that Heather had hated Kirsten for her elitism..." Reportedly, this "Heather" had also threatened to kill her in a comment. Apparently that girl didn't think Kirsten was beautiful.
Also, no one negated Bernadette's statement that Kirsten had put her down on the ski trip. There also seems to have been an atmosphere of bullying and cruelty at the school. Here's another quote from that article: “People can get really nasty at this school,” says one junior, standing with a group of classmates on the lawn surrounding Miramonte. “Everyone says this school is so boring, so they start doing things for entertainment. They start being cruel. Everyone wants to be the best. It’s so competitive.”
Perhaps the popular clique of people nostalgically think it was all rainbows and light prior to the murder, but that clearly wasn't everyone's experience.
It's also clear from context and that article that Bernadette had an inferiority complex and was jealous of Kirsten. I'm not at all saying murder is okay. But, it's awfully one-sided to represent that there absolutely couldn't have been any provocation or real fear of ridicule, so Bernadette's confession isn't necessarily untrue.
And, folks keep accusing her sister of lying with no factual basis whatsoever -- not a reasonable basis for a lynch mob mentality.
What about the other points I listed? Again, there are assumptions being made, and self-appointed people on a mission -- to do what, exactly?!? It's psycho to go into lynch-mob mentality based on mere opinion, bad logic, lack of facts and flying in the face of already established court findings.
Here's the link Jeannette or Virginia or Dianna lol we know it's one of you all
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DeleteThe document used to exist on Court-records-management.com but now that site doesn't exist. The document was listed as Protti Bernadette vs Name Change in Cleveland County, OK on April 18, 1994. That's how it saved in my favorites from the website.
ReplyDeleteOh, she's a christian?!? Well that figures. This is why people don't want to be christians any more -- they talk big about forgiveness, but in practice they're all self-righteous and mean.
ReplyDeleteOh, and don't forget that other verse that applies in this case -- Christians aren't supposed to gossip according to Romans 1:29: "They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips."
Mr. Anonymous, I totally understand why you created the site outing the author of this blog, but ask you to consider removing the photos of her children. Just as Ms. Protti''s children are innocent parties in this repellent online vigilantism, so too are Ms. Slocum's children. Can we please keep the kids out of it?
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ReplyDeleteThis blog is indeed shockingly judgmental, coming from someone whose professed religion emphasizes mercy and forgiveness.
ReplyDeletehippichick40, I'm doubtful the writer of this blog cares, since she posted her pic on here that included one of her children to begin with. I was mainly wanting to illustrate people shouldn't be tarred and feathered because of something their family members did -- since you make a good point, I'll consider replacing her kids with her boyfriend, her ex, her own sister, perhaps.
ReplyDeleteBetter yet, if she takes down this blog, I'll take down the materials I posted about her -- how's that? Seems fair.
S., my point wasn't that two wrongs don't make a right -- my points were: that (1) the writer here is apparently a hypocrite since Christians are supposed to believe in forgiveness, not take vengeance into their own hands, respect the authority God placed in the existing government, not make false accusations (this is actually one of the 10 Commandments), and if you have a problem with someone go and speak to them directly about it. (2) She can't really claim moral superiority and righteousness while lobbing bile from behind a mask. (3) If it's okay to do this sort of unprovoked attack and outing of someone on the internet, then she won't at all mind having it done to her.
Sallyjohnson also makes a good point that Christians aren't supposed to be gossiping.
You'll notice that I've hereby confronted Lori Slocum and told her straight out why I've got a problem with her.
Her leaving this blog up at this point becomes an interesting experiment -- if she really believes that Bernadette is still a dangerous killer, then she should be concerned that her name, address and photos are now published! If she truly believes what she wrote, however, one would think all this activity would pose a risk.
Mr. Anonymous Shut the fuck up you whiny little bitch you're obviously a friend or family member of that murderer which is why you're so butthurt and are going out of your way to defend them, unlike that cunt the person running this blog is not a murderer so your whole argument is bullshit it's not an unprovoked attack the murder Jeannette Tomanka committed was an unprovoked attack. Exposing Jeannette Tomanka only poses a risk to her because everyone knows who she is and where she lives, she stabbed a teenage girl in an angry rage she's not some trained assassin so if anyone were going to do harm to her they'd have nothing to worry about since she would have no idea who they are or when they're coming.
ReplyDeleteWow, Mr. Anonymous is insane. Clearly that's dear "Bernie" or someone close to her and they are used to defending her to (dare I say it) the death.
ReplyDeleteIt was interesting to see what Bernadette has been up to, and it's pretty clear on her Facebook that she is indeed Jeannette Tomanaka as proven by her responses to certain comments. I think she's aware, and if you google her name, Kirsten Costas pops up - so honestly, this blog is not a huge revelation. It's someone's attempt at making their own tribute page for Kirsten by saying Protti's family has made it out great despite the great tragedy and it's unfair in the large scheme of things. I agree.
Although Bernadette seems to be a stay at home God fearing mother now, she still snips at people in her comments and shows her true colors. I doubt she will ever be remorseful for what happened. She lives in a world where everything is perfect and she pretends nothing ever happened because she is in touch with God. Amen to this poster for showing the world Kirsten and her death, and Bernadette/Jeannette's crime will never be forgotten.
As for Mr. Anonymous, thou doth protest too much. Go back to your pie baking and stop villainizing someone for making a tribute page. It's doing nothing but making you look stupid and cruel, as only names were posted here. She left it up to the public to google and find what the Protti family has themselves made public - which doesn't include a current photo of Bernadette or her children. Going out of your way to show this bloggers family and home is harrassment. She never murdered anyone and hasn't made herself in danger of becoming a public figure by creating a Suzie Homemaker blog. I honestly don't think Bernadette cares if people know it's her, I think it's pretty clear she's moved on. Get off your high horse!
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ReplyDelete"Mr Anonymous" appears to be Bernadette herself. You've just exposed yourself with your comments, you twat.
ReplyDeleteShe is it's confirmed
Deletesigh. Isnt it illegal to intimidate or harass someone who has paid their debt to society
DeleteThis is evil, and psychotic. Trying to destroy someone's life for something that happened a generation ago is wrong.
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DeleteIt's evil to post information that I got from a simple Google search? At least Jeannette got a second chance to have a family. Kirsten will never know. I'm evil and psychotic but Jeannette is not and she visiously killed a young woman? You know why this blog is still up? Cause it's nothing illegal abou it. This is America. Clearly you are Jeannette's friend lol if she has a right to kill a young woman and move on we have a right to be aware of who are neighbors are. If she was a child molester we would all want to know here whereabouts. But you kill a child and you deserve privacy?!! Lol crazy
DeleteI am Bernadette Protti
ReplyDeleteBam! It's Bernadette or Jeannette? How about showing some remorse? I bet this is some sick imposter needing attention.
ReplyDeleteTo the person claiming to be Bernadette. Interesting that you say what this blogger is doing is evil and psychotic considering the crime you committed. And just because you were afraid she was going tell everyone you were weird.
ReplyDeleteAs for destroying someone's life over something that happened a generation ago it's too bad Kirsten never got a chance to live hers and her parents never got the chance to see her graduate high school and college and go on to have a career and family of her own. YOU took those milestones away from Kirsten and her family when you murdered her in cold blood.
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ReplyDeleteNo it's not. I want credit for my blog what proof do u clowns need of MY identity?! I live in Seattle I'm 27 no kids do I need to put up a picture lol?
DeleteYou know, I don't really understand the people who are trying to defend a CONVICTED MURDERER. Whether you agree with the blog owner or not, the fact is that Bernadette/Jeannette killed Kirsten Costas in cold blood. If you disagree with the owner of this blog, then leave it alone! Go away to your hippie drug parties.
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe she got such a short sentence. What an insult to the family. What a monster.
ReplyDeleteThe people who defend her must be family or friends of Jeannette Tomanka AKA Bernadette Protti.
ReplyDeleteAren't you following her on Facebook? I think u should out her!!!
DeleteI agree this blog isn't right ! You sound like someone who's just out to get this Jeanette Tomanka person or Bernadette Protti ! To me this is the same thing Bernadette was accused of ! I don't see you showing any proof here that they are the same person . I think you are being childish by having this blog and crazy too !
ReplyDeleteHow am I doing the same thing she is accused of? Did I kill a woman? And I do have proof on another post I posted a link to the name change document. You sound crazy 😂
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ReplyDeleteI would like to address Bernadette in this thread. It is clear you are using several fake profiles in this thread as well as this entire blog. I would encourage you to read my posts in the thread that displays your picture as it sites two links about the dangers of jealousy as well as the link below. Based on your posts alone, you clearly are still mentally not well. As far as your feeling the operator of this blog feels you are still a threat to society and that you question why she would even create this blog based on that feeling, I would argue that you would be a threat if someone is a person within your social network. Whether that be a co worker, friend or neighbor. I doubt you would drive or fly across the country to stab someone to death.............at least I hope not. You write quite a bit about the Bible, but I wonder if you read the parts about jealousy. I do not agree with name calling and that includes what I have read in this blog, for or against you, Bernadette. But I am responding to you because this was the only blog I could find that has the most current information about you. And yes, the operator does research other murder cases as I do as well. There is a thread about the Hannah Anderson case, which I also responded to. The bottom line is that the prosecution in your case failed Kirsten. I think it was premeditated and that bullying had NOTING to do with you murdering Kirsten. If anything, had Kirsten lived through your attack, I would imagine there would have been a lawsuit and restraining order against you. I just wonder if your family would have sought out the proper treatment for the sociopath that you are. You can't be a true Christian and a jealous person. Jesus forgives everyone but that doesn't mean everyone makes it to heaven. You must follow His word about redemption and part of His scripture emphasizes being genuinely sorry to those we harm. You can't even spell Kirsten's last name correctly. Since your such a professional writer, why not write about how you lied in court and how you are no longer a jealous person? I am so tired of the excuse that if someone does their "time" they have payed their debt to society? I say society has nothing to do with the Bible and what is right. The system and society are made up of people who are not infallible. The entire case and verdict was wrong in your case and you, in my opinion, are still dangerous. If you want to prove me wrong I would like to read what you have to say. http://www.2knowmyself.com/why_do_people_become_jealous
ReplyDelete"Kimberly Dias" or should I say Bernadette, it is funny how you describe Jeanette Tomanka as "that Jeanette Tomanka person or Bernadette Protti" like you don't even know or are familiar with who she is yet go on to explain more about Bernadette proving you clearly know who she is. Why else would you be on this blog? Again Bernadette, you are only unmasking yourself. Clearly you are not well.
ReplyDeleteHIPPICHICK, SALLY JOHNSON, MR. ANONYMOUS, ETC.. IT IS ALLLLLL YOU, VIRGINIA VARELA. YOUR VERNACULAR IS THE SAME IN ALL OF YOUR POSTS UNDER FAKE NAMES. STOP DEFENDING YOUR LOSER, CREEPY, BUTCHER KNIFE, YIELDING SISTER, "JEANNETTE TOMANKA" !!!
ReplyDeleteAll of you saying Bernadette should not be outed and should be free to make the most of her life and be forgiven--I hope you are against the sex offender list then!! Especially since most people on the sex offender list didn't kill anyone at least.
ReplyDeleteDo you have any idea how illogical that sounds?
DeleteBrittany, your blog description is just perfect, really; «just regurgitating what the web has known for years». Here's the truth, though: the web you talk about doesn't know shit. Knowledge doesn't come from that web. That web is a highly disorganized jungle, a world of appearance, rumors, meaningless correlations, a world that attracts savages like you and all the ones who support or would support your disgusting activity. That web is in no way a place for truth or justice. It is a place for what you do: regurgitation. Indeed, your intentions and actions here are as honourable and noble as a pond of vomit. You're nothing but a sad, obsessive, petty, vindictive, self-righteous individual. You persecute a woman based on what YOU subjectively perceive to be vague-at-most RESEMBLANCES?! Based on a fuzzy, black and white, pixelated newspaper picture of a 16 year old?! How unscientific, dishonest, deeply unethical is that?! Have you ever consider the possibility that YOU MIGHT BE WRONG?! That you might be enabling other useless parasites like you to hate and maybe harm a woman that might have nothing to do with this case?! That mere possibility should prevent any ethically-normally constituted individual from doing a vengeful and hateful thing such as this blog of yours. But I guess you haven't consider that, haven't you?! I guess you must have the arrogance, the presumption, the kind of inner certainty that drives sociopaths of your sort! You have the deluded insolence of believing that you're actually helping people by doing this, when in fact all you accomplish is contribute to the endless stream of senseless cacophony that a part of the web is known for, that very part of the web you come from, that marshy, sultry web where everyone is «entitled to their opinions», basically, a virtual mass of opinionated, entitled, profoundly egotistical (and completely oblivious to the fact) individuals. And here's the thing, even if you were right, even if that Jeanette broad was indeed Bernadette, who the fucking fuck are you to persecute her, after she did her time?! You conveniently choose one single dissonance amongst the experts who let her out, conveniently ignoring that she got out because of the expert opinion of the majority of.. experts!! What the fuck are you, the fucking daughter of His Majesty The Fucking King Judge Of Judges And All Mighty Jesus Fucking Christ?! Are you like the earthly representative of Fucking Divine Justice herself?! Motherfucker, I cannot even express how intense the contempt i have for you is! Here's my suggestion for you, you ugly-soul bitch: Instead of hypocritically and cowardly «regurgitating what the web knows», why don't you follow your REAL sentiment, and find Jeanette, and ACTUALLY hurt her?! Hell, why not kill her ?! Why not render her children fucking motherless?! Isn't that what you really, really want, inside, TO HURT HER?! To make her SUFFER?! To seek VENGEANCE?! How many times, in all those years you’ve been obsessed by this case, as you said, how many times have you ecstatically dreamed of killing Bernadette?! Dozens?! Hundredths?! Yes, that's exactly right, you are virtually as sick, as deranged, as potentially violent and dangerous as Bernadette herself, or any other murderer for that matter, because in the end, what you do, what you really accomplish, is not empathy, is not compassion, is not the desire to help, but instead, the desire to hurt, to hate, to ostracize, to judge by your own entitled, individualistic, self-righteous means. So here's my wish for you, since we are in this sick world web of yours: I wish you never bring children to this earth, I sincerely wish no child will ever have to suffer the burden of the twisted motherhood you would inevitably provide. And if you do, I wish your children will be strong and intelligent enough to disavow your sick, destructive, immoral education. That's it. Have a horrible life, you rotten cunt.
ReplyDeleteWhen you kill an individual, you have decided you no longer want to be a part of our society. She shouldn't be in our society today. She should be in a prison. Since you're so passionate about helping Jeannette why don't you make a fan page supporting her? Lol. You're a fucking clown.
DeleteShouldn't the bad words be removed? Just asking
DeleteThe rotten cunt comment obviously no One has any morals
DeleteYou are an incredibly small woman, with an incredibly small mind. The fact that you are still unable to control your angry outbursts is testament to the fact that you have marginal intelligence and should still be in prison. You act incredibly self-righteous for someone who claims to have deep regrets about the murder you committed. Sadly, it is perfectly clear that you are and always will be the small, insecure, petty, jealous, cruel, vengeful girl you were in 1983. Your insides are as unattractive as your outside. Karma always has a way of coming full circle. And I will be clapping when it sneaks up on you and runs you over.
DeleteP.S. : To all the brainless idiots that will reply to my comment, including Britanny, know that I wont bother to read you. I don’t dwell in these virtual areas for too long, as I quickly become nauseous, given the stench. Plus you obviously wont have anything interesting to offer, except your usual you-must-be-bernadette-or-a-family-member-and-yourea-a-psycho response, that pathetic self-reassuring, group-reinforcement response. Oh, and now that I think about it, I have the same wish for all of you; please do not reproduce. Give humanity a chance, for goddamn sake…
ReplyDeleteAgree, "Brittany" (not her real name) is just a vindictive attention-seeker, but don't you see how these kind of over-the-top responses play right into her mean-girl hands? Best just to ignore her.
ReplyDeleteYes I am just an attention seeker lol you got me!
DeleteGood grief! I missed these posts! WOW! Interesting that "Anonymous" posts at 314 am Nov.10th and then Lilly Bart posts the same day! Talk about a crazy family. Well, guess we hit a nerve. Brittany, I posted somewhere else and I can't remember where about the Charlie Brandt murders and how the victims family is trying to start what is called the Michelle Jones Foundation where "invisible criminals" are exposed. Meaning, anyone who was a minor and murdered and was either let go or records expunged. I watched the 48 Hours episode on this murderer. He murdered at 13, was let go. The family is as crazy as Bernadette's. Never sought help for him, brushed it all under the carpet like it never happened. He murdered again at the age of 43.
ReplyDeleteIs that directed to the pro Jeanette post's or me? I was just asking if you agreed with starting the Jones Foundation which would force anyone who murders that was a minor to be in some sort of registry and where the idea originated from. Like sexual predators have to. I had never heard of it and it looks like it still has not passed. This would force Bernadette to be registered for the public awareness.
ReplyDeleteDon't stop posting, I love your posts. Is there something u want me to erase?
DeleteEither way the name calling and bad language is not where I am at and in no way helps the cause. I won't be posting here anymore.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree that people who have murdered and are released should be on a national registry like sex offenders are. Animal abusers as well.
ReplyDeleteTo the anonymous poster from November 10, 3:14am. You are one angry and unstable person. You are either Bernie, a relative, or a friend. Someone who didn't know her couldn't possibly be that angry about a blog on a murderer. The following statement you made: You're nothing but a sad, obsessive, petty, vindictive, self-righteous individual. This statement actually reflects on Bernadette, this is the reason she murdered Kirsten. And you last statement: That's it. Have a horrible life, you rotten cunt. Really? This shows that you have no morals at all.
ReplyDeleteI personally want to thank Brittany for all of her hard work digging everything up. People like myself and Brittany have a interest in True Crime and are truth seekers, love to investigate. Bernadette didn't do herself any favors by changing her name and identity. Someone will always search for the answers, it's human nature. She can't take away that she took an 18" knife and stabbed and murdered a classmate. If she would have done this today, she likely would be spending 30 years or more in prison, so Bernadette feel lucky the crime happened when it did and that you actually have a good life to live. You sure took that away from Kirsten and her family.
Thank you, that's so true. She definitely didn't get enough time. It's such a shame the Costas' had to endure that.
Delete"ANONYMOUS" AKA/ VIRGINIA VARELA, JEANNETTE TOMANKA, (THE NOV. 10, DESPERATE RESPONSE; LOL) OR ONE OF THE OTHER PROTTI SISTERS!!! "PISARE SU UN CORDA!" YOUR'E ALL HALF ITALIAN: YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS: LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU!!! GO "PISS UP A ROPE" !!! YOUR'E ALL JUST PISSED OFF THAT YOUR PSYCHOPATH OF A SISTER, JEANNETTE, HAS RIGHTFULLY AND FINALLY BEEN "OUTED" AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS!!! I HOPE JEANNETTE AND HER ROTTEN SISTERS LIVE THE REST OF THEIR LIVES IN UTTER MISERY, JUST LIKE THE COSTAS FAMILY HAS HAD TO DO!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMe Annoymous is right, let the past go it's done and over Bernadette moved on it wasn't all her fault you don't know the entire story. She was wrong to murder and let others take the blame eps the 2 girls who wasn't allowed back to school,but the other kids apologized to them and Bernadette was jeered by the students at her trail and the whole community was there to out her publically. She paid there. She s doing well and a Christian why destroy her let Jesus be her judge.
ReplyDeletePray,for the Costas family to find peace that's the right thing to do.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous watch your mouth about Jesis that's blasphemy and that's unpardonable sin which Jesus died for yours, Jesusmsaid love one another.
ReplyDeleteDidn't mean so harsh anonymous I love my Lord and will serve and defend him I think youre right on Bernadette it's past overdue.
ReplyDeleteWow, Bernie. The language you used would make a sailor blush.
ReplyDeleteThe bitch should still be rotting in jail, eye for a eye , karma will get you
ReplyDeleteAgreed. She should still be in jail.
ReplyDeleteMr Anonymous, Lilly Bart, Judy, sally, Jesus H Christ.........are ALL Virginia Protti Varela. Stay classy, Gina.
ReplyDeleteTo the person who created this blog...YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON. CLEARLY YOU HAVE ISSUES AND YOU ARE ASS HURT BY SOMETHING THAT DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU!! TO OUT SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED THEIR TIME FOR THE CRIME IS PURE IMMATURITY AND PERSONALLY YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO WAS STABBED TO DEATH YOU DUMB CUNT!! BERNIE WAS A VICTIM OF BULLYING. COSTAS GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HER BECAUSE HER PARENTS FAILED TO RAISE SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE AND KINDNESS. SHE PUSHED SOMEONE TOO FAR AND THEY GAVE HER WHAT SHE DESERVED. BULLYING IS NEVER OKAY AND IT CAUSES CASES AS SUCH. GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU WEIRD ASS PSYCHO CUNT !!!
ReplyDeleteWOW!! First of all, Kirsten didn't "get what she deserved". Second of all, I'm sure her parents raised her very well. She was outgoing & confident. Maybe she was bully, maybe she wasn't. It doesn't matter, she didn't deserve to die.
DeleteI'm a retired detective and narcotics agent. I was watching something about this case tonight. This was a crime of passion involving a lot of rage and fear. There is no justification for this crime. Having said that, I have a degree in forensic psychology and I do not believe that Bernadette would reoffend. She has served her time and her final judgment will come before God. Until then, I believe she has a right to live a private life. I've had a friend and a family member murdered. So, I understand the anger, but at some point, you have to let it go and live your life. Let her live her life. She has to live with what she did every day and so does her family. I don't harass the people who murdered my friend and my family member. I don't think about them. It's unhealthy to obsess and it's better to be a good person. Part of the reason why I chose a career in law enforcement was because of what happened. You have to find a positive outlet for your grief. That's just my opinion. Trying to make someone else's life miserable won't make your life better and you will hurt innocent people in the process. I don't believe in a registry for murderers because once you're a convicted felon, you're a ex-felon for life and that has consequences. She has paid her legal debt. Putting up a blog like this one helps no one. It just satisfies your base desires and feelings. It serves no good purpose and shows poor judgment and poor impulse control.
DeleteTO HARASS SOMEONE AND EVEN PUBLICIZE THEIR FAMILY IS PURE STUPIDITY. YOU MR.BLOGGER NEED TO REEVALUATE WHY YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN START A ONLINE CAMPAIGN OF HATE FOR SOMEONE WHO CLEARLY KNEW SHE MADE A MISTAKE AND SERVED HER TIME. SHE NEVER HAD INTENTIONS TO KILL COSTAS, SHE SNAPPED AFTER BEING PUSHED TOO FAR BY A FUCKING BULLY. BULLY- SOMEONE WHO THINKS IT IS OKAY TO BELITTLE PEOPLE, SOMEONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE GOD AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO TREAT OTHERS AS TRASH, BULLY= COSTAS!
ReplyDeletePEOPLE NEED TO MOVE THE HELL ON JUST LIKE EVERYONE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE CASE HAS!
TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOTHING BUT NEGATIVE SHIT TO SAY ABOUT A OLD ASS CASE---GROW UP, MOVE ON, GET A LIFE, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP. LETS WORRY ABOUT IMPORTANT SHIT LIKE ANIMAL CRUELTY AND KIDS STARVING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES!!
I think Bernadette did the world a favor... too many snobs and evil people in this world ;-)
ReplyDeleteI hope and pray Bernadette is living a wonderful and happy life :-)
ReplyDeleteAt March 29, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Anonymous
ReplyDelete"To the person who created this blog...YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON. CLEARLY YOU HAVE ISSUES AND YOU ARE ASS HURT BY SOMETHING THAT DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU!!"
Or perhaps she feels sympathy for a girl who was brutally murdered by a mentally unhinged girl who blamed her victim for her own failures and inadequacies. Bernadette then attempted to justify the murder because she was afraid Kirsten would call her weird for using a ruse to be alone with her and divulging her personal feelings of admiration for her. It's understandable that that was interpreted as "weird" and it's certainly not something to kill over.
"TO OUT SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED THEIR TIME FOR THE CRIME IS PURE IMMATURITY"
"out her" Bernadette's real was online before the creation of this blog. People are free to disagree that Bernadette was sufficiently punished for such a brutal heinous murder. Were you forced to come to this blog and read the articles?
AND PERSONALLY YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO WAS STABBED TO DEATH YOU DUMB CUNT!!
So you are wishing that the owner of a blog who supports a murder victim "should be the one who was stabbed to death"? Your mental state is quite alarming and you are quite an eery individual if you think it's acceptable to wish another person death because you don't like the content of her blog. You clearly need to seek the help of a professional.
"BERNIE WAS A VICTIM OF BULLYING. COSTAS GOT WHAT WAS COMING TO HER BECAUSE HER PARENTS FAILED TO RAISE SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE AND KINDNESS"
What bullying? Making a comment about skis doesn't equate to bullying. So are you suggesting that Kirsten "got what was coming to her" because she didn't want to befriend Bernadette? How dare she choose who she wishes to be friend with!! Bernadette lured Kirsten out of her house under false pretences and appears to have confessed her admiration for her, which alarmed Kirsten to such a degree that she felt the need to flee from Bernadette's car. It is understandable that a teenager would interpret that as strange or unusual......because it was. Blaming Kirsten's parents in an attempt to deflect attention away from or justify Bernadette's sickening crime is ridiculous. What about Bernadette's parents? They failed to instil a sense of self worth in their daughter so she sought approval from someone she claimed "put her down".
"SHE PUSHED SOMEONE TOO FAR AND THEY GAVE HER WHAT SHE DESERVED"
Not wanting to be friends with someone isn't "pushing them too far"
BULLYING IS NEVER OKAY AND IT CAUSES CASES AS SUCH. GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU WEIRD ASS PSYCHO CUNT !!!
What bullying? Psycho? Writing reprehensible comments about a murdered child and suggesting that the owner of the blog should have been stabbed because you don't like the content of her blog is most certainly an example of you being a "psycho" and you alone.
Kirsten didn't bully Bernadette, but I'm sure that fact won't stop you from persisting with that lie. Get a life? You came here out of your volition to elicit a negative reaction by writing negative comments about a murdered child and you have the audacity to tell someone else to get a life?
"WEIRD ASS PSYCHO CUNT !!!" "DUMB CUNT"
You are about as classy as a festering turd under an Australian sun.
March 29, 2016 at 1:36 PM , Anonymous
ReplyDelete"TO HARASS SOMEONE AND EVEN PUBLICIZE THEIR FAMILY IS PURE STUPIDITY. YOU MR.BLOGGER NEED TO REEVALUATE WHY YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN START A ONLINE CAMPAIGN OF HATE FOR SOMEONE WHO CLEARLY KNEW SHE MADE A MISTAKE AND SERVED HER TIME. SHE NEVER HAD INTENTIONS TO KILL COSTAS, SHE SNAPPED AFTER BEING PUSHED TOO FAR BY A FUCKING BULLY. BULLY- SOMEONE WHO THINKS IT IS OKAY TO BELITTLE PEOPLE, SOMEONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE GOD AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO TREAT OTHERS AS TRASH, BULLY= COSTAS!"
Who is getting "harassed"? How melodramatic to be offended by such a tame blog. Your hate filled comments pervading with bitter enmity suggests you are not some mere stranger defending Bernadette and her sister. No stranger would be so invested in defending a murderer.
"SHE SNAPPED AFTER BEING PUSHED TOO FAR BY A FUCKING BULLY"
Kirsten didn't bully Bernadette. Kirsten's murderer blamed her for her shortcomings and killed her because she was afraid she would tell others she was weird. It was rather strange of Bernadette to lure Kirsten out of her house under false pretences. It's astounding that Berndaette couldn't foresee that that would be interpreted as strange and possibly something sexual. Does it make you feel good to perpetuate a lie about a dead child?
"PEOPLE NEED TO MOVE THE HELL ON JUST LIKE EVERYONE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE CASE HAS!"
I don't think people would be discussing this case if: Bernadette was punished adequately for butchering Kirsten to death
if Kirsten was fairly portrayed in the rolling stone article and the movie "Death of a Cheerleader"
if petulant adults like yourself didn't continue to perpetuate a lie about a murdered child and tarnish her name.
If spiteful adults like yourself didn't blame Kirsten's parents for her murder.
People are free to discuss Kirsten's murder and their opinions of Bernadette if they wish and there is nothing you can do about it. Kirsten's murder was so brutal I hope this case is never forgotten and I hope that makes you seethe with rage
"WORRY ABOUT IMPORTANT SHIT LIKE ANIMAL CRUELTY AND KIDS STARVING IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES!!"
You tell people to "grow up" and then tell them to "shut the fuck up" in the same sentence. Bit of a contradiction, isn't it.
It's good to help others and I would suggest that helping others would certainly be a constructive use of your time instead of attempting to insult others who support a murder victim, wishing the owner of a blog dead because you don't agree with articles on her blog and intentionally lying about and tarnishing a murdered child's name. However, your comments clearly depict a mentally unstable individual and I would be concerned about the safety of vulnerable people and animals in your presence.
Unknown,
ReplyDelete"I think Bernadette did the world a favor... too many snobs and evil people in this world ;-)"
Just to humor your puerile nonsense, please explain how Kirsten was "evil" and "snobby? Kirsten's murderer blamed her for her shortcomings and killed her because she was afraid she would tell others she was weird. As I wrote above: it was rather strange of Bernadette to lure Kirsten out under false pretences. It's astounding that Berndaette couldn't foresee that that would be interpreted as strange and possibly something sexual. However, I don't expect murderer sympathizers like yourself to be capable of critical thought. I actually sort of pity you for thinking it's acceptable to write negative comments about a murdered child.
"bullyhater"
ReplyDelete"I hope and pray Bernadette is living a wonderful and happy life :-)"
And? People on this blog have no control over whatever you "hope" or "pray" for Bernadette, so attempting to provoke a negative reaction from those who feel sympathy for Kirsten by writing you "hope" Bernadette "has a wonderful life" is amusingly juvenile of you.
Thank God someone with a brain is speaking out! Purple haze thank you so much for speaking the truth. I was close friends with Kirsten and friendly with Bernadette. The previous comments are written by a person who is just plain psychotic with an IQ of an idiot. No one deserves to die no matter what was said and Bernadette was clearly sociopathic in behavior. Why did she lure Kirsten under false pretenses with a 15 inch knife in the car? Only a crazy person does such a thing. She made up a very elaborate story that night to her parents to cover her bases and get access to a car even though she didn't even have a drivers license. Bernadette premeditated the whole horrible murder. Kirsten's parents were and are the nicest most down to earth people you will ever meet. Losing their daughter tore their lives apart. Grief I would not wish on my worst enemy. How does one lose their child and learn to move on with their lives is incomprehensible. I have learned that Bernadette being outed has cost her some strife in her life but she never paid the price she should have for what she did. I will forever hold the memory of Kirsten's beautiful soul and smile in my heart.
ReplyDeletei'm curious, what were the long term affects of Kirsten's murder? I'm assuming you, your other high school friends, and other students are parents now. When the subject of bullying, safety, mental illness, or cliques is brought up do you tell them about the murder? Do you let your teenage daughters hangout or get in the car with a friend you don't know? And what about highs school reunions? Do you talk about Kirstrn & Bernadette?
DeleteI knew the day would come especially with all of the access online to find out things...She was naive if she thought it would never catch up with her. It would be interesting if I found out a friend/neighbor had done this!
ReplyDeleteSome of y'all are making me sick. To seriously blame Kirsten and the Costases for Kirsten's murder is insane.
ReplyDeleteKirsten never bullied Bernadette. Believe me. I was bullied and what Kirsten did was NOT bullying. She simply didn't want to be friends with Bernadette. Now tell me why that is such a heinous notion.
Bernadette was the one who stabbed a girl half her size with an 18" knife. Who was REALLY the bully?
And suggesting that the blog owner deserves to be stabbed to death is horrific and insane. You're clearly as unhinged as Jeannette.
Hi "itsaboutime"
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome. I found the mentally unhinged individual's comments appalling and repugnant. I can only imagine the hurt that someone who knew and cared about Kirsten felt reading them.
"I will forever hold the memory of Kirsten's beautiful soul and smile in my heart"
That's really sweet.
I wish you the very best
The comments from "Anonymous"are very similar to other "Anonymous" comments scattered around the blog. The content is the same: "Bernadette was bullied", "move on", "this case is decades old", "this is an old case", blaming Kirsten, "get a life", "lynch mob", repeating ad nauseum that Kirsten was a bully in an attempt to justify her murder, melodramatic asinine comments directed at the blog owner, petulant comments directed at people who support Kirsten. The constant rabid defence of Bernadette with hateful vitriolic comments suggests that "Anonymous" is close to Bernadette. What was it that set you off on your rage infused bilious tirade this time? Was it the comment above yours: "Mr Anonymous, Lilly Bart, Judy, sally, Jesus H Christ.........are ALL Virginia Protti Varela"? Was it about the recent comments in another section of the blog giving an account of Bernadette's mental state after Kirsten's murder and after her arrest? Was it about a recently posted comment supposedly written by Virginia Protti on another blog which portrays her as having the moral fiber of a cockroach and who is to class and morality like Hitler was to humanitarianism.
ReplyDeleteAs clearly evidenced in your comments above,there is something amiss with your mental state and it is patently clear that you are in need of psychological treatment. Perhaps Bernadette can recommend someone, or give you some of her meds.
" It would be interesting if I found out a friend/neighbor had done this!"
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you would be appalled, disgusted and freaked out. Would you trust her to be alone with her? I wouldn't.
I completely agree with your comment, Frankie. The odious comments are insane to say the least and it appears to be someone close to Bernadette.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, Purple haze. It's got to be a family member, or at least a friend. No one sane would make comments like this. Normal people feel badly for poor Kirsten and her family.
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't surprise me if the comments were from Virginia. It seems that craziness runs in the Protti family.
ReplyDelete"Maybe she was bully, maybe she wasn't"
ReplyDeleteKirsten didn't bully Bernadette. It's impossible to get along with everyone, so yeah, some people may have perceived her negatively and mistook her confidence for arrogance. Even if Kirsten's character in the movie was accurate (it's not), it really pales in comparison to people I knew. What was the worst thing Kirsten apparently did? Be sarcastic and a smart ass? I don't mean to be insensitive or dismissive of other people's feelings, but I find it bemusing that that was considering bullying. It's part of my culture to be sarcastic towards each other and to depreciate each other. It's called "slagging". When I was a teen, I saw girls get into such rough physical fights that bones were sometimes broken, so I can't help but view sarcasm and smart assed comments as insignificant.
So.......Jeannette/Bernadette/Virginia who writes hateful comments on this website, you’re staunch Catholics, eh? What about love thy neighbor as thyself?
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JEANNETTE AND VIRGINIA, YOU ARE BOTH LYING PSYCHOPATHS!!!!!!!! NOBODY WILL EVER BELIEVE YOUR BULLSHIT ABOUT KIRSTEN BEING BULLIED!!!! I HOPE EVERY ONE OF YOUR NEIGHBORS AND YOUR BANK CUSTOMERS FIND OUT YOUR TRUE BACKROUNDS!!! YOU TWO EVIL PEOPLE WILL GO TO HELL!!!!! LOLLLL
ReplyDeleteI think there are a lot of people out there who went through high school trying desperately to fit in with the "in crowd" and never quite made it. Then there were kids like me who knew they wouldn't ever be popular and didn't even try-like Nancy Kane, the student everyone was sure had killed Kirsten. Everyone thought she was guilty because she was different and didn't fit in. Nancy's life was irreversibly changed for the worse and I think the community would have been happier if Nancy had been the one that committed the crime because the fact that she wasn't made them all look stupid and stuck up--like they were. I would hope that at some point Bernadette apologized to Nancy--that someone, maybe some of the students and faculty apologized. That's what happens when you persecute someone for being different; someone "cries witch" and everyone believes it. Even when that person is found innocent society still wants to persecute them.
ReplyDeleteHi Unknown,
ReplyDeleteNancy Kane was popular and did “fit in” until she changed her image. She was ostracised because she dressed differently and wasn't interested in the "popular scene", yet she was invited to join a sorority that was suggested to recruit popular people, so she mustn't have been perceived too negatively.
"Everyone thought she was guilty because she was different and didn't fit in"
It wasn't just because she "didn't fit in". She also openly argued with Kirsten.
Nancy said in a documentary that she had problems with drinking and drugs as a result of her being wrongly accused for Kirsten's murder. I agree that people in the community portrayed themselves terribly, but I got the impression Nancy was blamed because people were aware of the animosity between Kirsten and Nancy. It wasn't just because of how she dressed. However, it is still no excuse for how she was treated.
In the documentary, Nancy didn't reveal that Bernadette apologized to her, so I'm assuming she didn't. Nancy wasn't treated very well when she returned to Miramonte for her senior year, which was unfair and cruel. I wish Nancy the very best.
It was over 30 years ago!!!!!! Why must people continue to hold on to things of the past. This young woman was punished and served her time. Leave her and her family alone. MOVE ON! It's apparent that you have nothing better to do with your life than to be a "Bully". Please get over yourself.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
I have answered this question quite a few times which I'm sure you have read, but since I'm a very nice person, I will answer this question one more time. Why discuss this crime now? This is a blog that discusses the case and supports Kirsten, the victim. People discuss this case in an attempt to try and make sense of such a senseless, savage and tragic crime. The questions this case raises: How did Bernadette get away with it for as long as she did considering the very clear description of the murderer? Why was Bernadette's alibi not checked out? What induced Bernadette’s murderous rage? Did she exhibit signs of being dangerous and unhinged before the murder? Can analysing this crime help people to detect dangerous signs in others? Can a person who commits such a savage and monstrous crime ever be truly rehabilitated?...amongst many other questions.
Bernadette was not "pushed" to murder Kirsten and it is deplorable of you to perpetuate that lie. Bernadette was a very sick mentally unhinged teenager that blamed Kirsten for her own inadequacies and killed Kirsten in a murderous rage because her strange behavior to get Kirsten alone was justifiably and understandably frowned upon.
Bernadette rang Kirsten's mother about a fictitious bobbies dinner, lured Kirsten out of her house under the pretence of going to the non-existent bobbies dinner, drove Kirsten to an empty car-park, told her there was no bobbies dinner and appears to have confessed her feelings of admiration for her. Kirsten appears to have been understandably furious with Bernadette's lies and desperate behaviour to get her alone. Kirsten was understandably alarmed by Bernadette's eerie behavior, so she fled Bernadette's car. Bernadette couldn't accept that Kirsten possibly called her out on her strange behaviour, which Kirsten was perfectly justified in doing as Bernadette's behaviour was utterly bizarre and odd. Bernadette then stalked Kirsten in her pinto and cowardly attacked Kirsten from behind with a 15/18 inch knife. Whilst stabbing Kirsten, Bernadette would have seen the pain and anguish on Kirsten's face, seen the fear and shock in Kirsten's eyes, listened to Kirsten scream in agony as she felt the knife rip through Kirsten's flesh, she would have smelled Kirsten's blood, Kirsten's blood would have gushed out all over her.
It takes one hell of a cold bastard to commit a crime like that and go about her life like nothing happened. "I was very good at blocking it out" – Bernadette. It also takes a hell of a cold bastard to coolly discuss the murder in class and callously allow two girls to be blamed and tortured by their community for the vile crime she committed. I don't agree that Bernadette served her time and I can voice that opinion if I wish. "This young woman" continued to attack a defenceless and screaming Kirsten on the ground inflicting her with wounds two feet long and lacerating organs.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
“MOVE ON! It's apparent that you have nothing better to do with your life than to be a "Bully". Please get over yourself.”
Move on from what? Supporting Kirsten and discussing Bernadette's horrendously evil crime? You may wish to portray Bernadette as the lost little self-conscious lamb "that was pushed", but the reality is she was a mentally unhinged cold blooded murderer who killed because her odd behavior was understandably not well received and it seems she would have been quite happy to let Nancy and J get the blame for her vicious crime. I'm sure you would no problem with this blog if it supported Bernadette and criticized Kirsten. Who is "bullying"? Is discussing a crime and supporting Kirsten "bullying"? You have a distorted perception of bullying. Have you "nothing better to do" than to go to a blog that you don't like to self-righteously and impudently tell others what to do? It is you that clearly needs to "get over yourself". You are highly deluded if you think you have the moral authority to tell others what to when you support someone who could continue to stab and rip someone else's flesh whilst the victim was screaming in agony, block it out of her mind "I was very good at blocking it out" (Bernadette), nonchalantly participate in classroom discussions about who murdered Kirsten, watch as the finger of suspicion was directed at innocent people, particularly two innocent girls (Nancy and J),not apologize to Kirsten's family or Nancy and J and vilify her murder victim after her death. Your moral character is very questionable and it would be a better use of your time to reflect on that rather than attempting to elicit a negative reaction from people who support a murder victim.
I misread "punished" as "pushed". The rest of my comments still stand.
ReplyDeleteI always wonder if it was Bernadettes plan to murder Kirsten from the start. She premeditated the whole story, got her alone in the car and had a 15 inch knife in the car.....that knife was not There as the sister claimed to cut vegetables on her way to work as she lied in her testimony. No one uses a carving knife in a car for that. You would have a tiny pairing knife. Plus Bernadette herself said she put the knife back where she found it. In the drawer in the kitchen. Instead of murdering her in the church parking lot she had to flee after her and kill her when she was driven home. It's all so gruesome and horrific.
ReplyDeleteHi itsaboutime,
ReplyDelete“I always wonder if it was Bernadettes plan to murder Kirsten from the start”
I believe that it was. I think Bernadette was going to kill Kirsten if she didn’t get the positive reaction she was desperately anticipating. However, she knew it could backfire which is why she had a “plan b”, or rather, “plan k” (k for kill).
“She premeditated the whole story, got her alone in the car and had a 15 inch knife in the car.....that knife was not There as the sister claimed to cut vegetables on her way to work as she lied in her testimony. No one uses a carving knife in a car for that. You would have a tiny pairing knife.”
I agree. It was stated that there was a 15/18 knife “jammed” between the front car seats that the sister used to cut vegetables at lunch break, which is ridiculously absurd. I agree that no- one would need a carving knife to cut vegetables and would certainly not keep a knife between car seats that is going to be used on food. That’s disgusting. If one was going to use a knife to cut vegetables and fruit for lunch, they would use a “pairing knife” like you suggested and would logically keep it in the glove department. The sister’s lies should have been challenged in court and there should have been repercussions for her brazen dishonesty on the stand.
“the knife back where she found it. In the drawer in the kitchen. Instead of murdering her in the church parking lot she had to flee after her and kill her when she was driven home. It's all so gruesome and horrific”
Yes, she left it back where she found it. I’m sure she observed her family members prepare food with the large knife that she used to kill Kirsten. What a sickening thought. I think Bernadette would have killed Kirsten in the car if Kirsten didn’t run away.
“It's all so gruesome and horrific”
Yes it is. The way in which Bernadette followed Kirsten home and cowardly ambushed Kirsten from behind with a knife attack is monstrous and deprave. To continue stabbing Kirsten whilst Kirsten was screaming in agony (the guy that drove Kirsten home said she was screaming) portrays a very dark soul.
I’m sorry that some of my comments are very descriptive. I think it’s important to detail the hell that Bernadette put Kirsten through in order to dispel the erroneous statements that Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten, and that Bernadette was “a sweet innocent self-conscious little lamb” that could do no harm. A “sweet”, “innocent” person wouldn’t ambush someone from behind and continue to savagely stab them whilst seeing the pain and anguish on their victim’s face, listening to the victim scream in pain and seeing the fear and shock in their victim’s eyes as the knife plunged into her victims chest. I’ve said this many times, but from what I have read about Kirsten’s alleged behaviour, she was so tame and so innocuous.
I actually don’t like referring to Kirsten as a “victim”. Even though Kirsten sustained horrific injuries and was mortally wounded, she inexplicably had the strength to get away from Bernadette, which shows that Kirsten was a very, very strong girl.
The house Kirsten went to,the next door neighbors home was also the same age as Kirsten and one of her closest friends. She said that Kirsten's screams were gory and bloodcurdling. She didn't know what it was it was so horrific. She was on the phone when Kirsten came to the door so it took her a moment. She was scared to death. She didn't know it was Kirsten by the horrible screams. Had she opened the door Bernedatte may have stabbed her as well. I'm sure it will haunt her forever. Kirsten had to have been bleeding quite a bit as Bernadette hit a major artery in her neck. She also punctured her lung. She said she couldn't feel her legs when she collapsed into a neighbors arms. Bernadette had to have been covered in blood. Kirsten was sweet, carefree and at times immature like a little girl who likes to have fun. Not a bully or cruel.
ReplyDeleteHi itsaboutime,
ReplyDelete"The house Kirsten went to,the next door neighbors home was also the same age as Kirsten and one of her closest friends. She said that Kirsten's screams were gory and bloodcurdling"
How horrific for the friend. I imagine the horrific scream made her body freeze in panic because she couldn't determine who the scream was coming from and what caused it. I'm sure she couldn't fathom that the "gory and bloodcurdling" screams were coming from Kirsten. How traumatising for the friend.
"Had she opened the door Bernedatte may have stabbed her as well"
Bernadette was overcome with an uncontrollable murderous rage, so yes I agree that it's possible Bernadette would have attacked Kirsten's friend.
"Kirsten had to have been bleeding quite a bit as Bernadette hit a major artery in her neck"
In her neck? I wasn't aware of that? Jesus, that's horrific.
"She also punctured her lung. She said she couldn't feel her legs when she collapsed into a neighbors arms"
That's heartbreaking to think about. I can only imagine the unimaginable anguish Kirsten's family and friends (you) felt.
I'm glad that she got away from Bernadette which showed strength and determination because I think Bernadette would have continued to stab Kirsten and watch the life go out of her.
"Bernadette had to have been covered in blood"
I agree. Due to the magnitude of Kirsten's wounds, Bernadette would have been covered in blood. What an impudent little liar to state that there was no blood on her or her hands.
"Kirsten was sweet, carefree and at times immature like a little girl who likes to have fun. Not a bully or cruel"
From what I have read, it was clear that she wasn't the devious bully bitch that others have attempted to vilify her as.
I'm very sorry for your loss. It must be very weird for you to read people's opinions about Kirsten and Bernadette.
I'm repeating myself again, but I’m sorry that some of my comments are very descriptive. I think it’s important to detail the hell that Bernadette put Kirsten through in order to dispel the erroneous statements that Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten, and that Bernadette was “a sweet innocent self-conscious little lamb” that could do no harm. She hurt so many people.
I wish you the very best.
It breaks my heart to think of what she went through.
ReplyDeleteItsabouttime, this must be a hard day for you. I wish you the best on this difficult day.
ReplyDeleteHi Kmaham,
ReplyDeleteI agree. Bernadette's murderous rage and the ghastly injuries she inflicted on Kirsten can be likened to a horror film. It is her Anniversary today, may she rest in peace.
Thank you for your kind thoughts on the anniversary of Kirsten's death. Always a hard time.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome, itsabouttime. I wish you the best.
ReplyDeleteItsabouttime, I don't want to bother you by writing to you, but I just wanted to wish you well today on what would have been Kirsten's birthday.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much. That is incredibly thoughtful of you to remember. Xx
ReplyDeleteNo prob. All the best.
ReplyDeleteThe creator of this blog has serious mental issues and needs to seek help immediately!
ReplyDeleteThis is true.
ReplyDeletebbmok,
ReplyDeleteJudging from the comments you have recently littered around the blog, I'm sure you wouldn't think the blog owner had "serious mental issues" if this was a blog that criticized Kirsten.
You have the laughable impudence to suggest that someone else should "seek help immediately" or that they have "mental issues", yet you have recently posted comments on the blog that clearly shows that you not only sympathize with a murderer who brutally killed someone else, but have also written that Kirsten played a role in her murder and that her parents were to blame for her murder and you have the brazen audacity to suggest that someone else needs help? As I wrote to you elsewhere, it is clear that the heights of your ignorance and stupidity is matched by the depths of your delusion.
bbmok,
ReplyDeleteInstead of engaging in childish name calling like a petulant adolescent, you should concentrate your efforts on a serious self examination to discover why you are so rabidly against those that support and sympathize with a murder victim, and why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that people are disgusted by Bernadette's murder of Kirsten and Kirsten's vilification in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader". One shouldn't have to explain why they are disgusted by murder, especially a murder as heinous as Kirsten's.
She doesn't purport to be against anyone who supports or sympathizes with a murder victim. Nor is she demanding an explanation as to why anyone would be disgusted by murder. Her objection stems from the exposure of Bernadette Protti's new identity. The only one engaging in name-calling is you.
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ReplyDeleteActually, she has called names. For example, she has called the blog owner or me in her different comments littered around the blog: "mentally ill", "you have a serious mental issue" "you are in a serious mental fog", "you are a serious case", "childish", "you are mentally off" "you should be ashamed", "You really need to see a counselor - actually a psychiatrist, "We are going to be reading about you murdering someone next". . ...etc
What names have I called her? A petulant adolescent? Her comments on this blog suggests that her mentality hasn't progressed past her adolescent years, so it's an accurate description for her. I've been extremely tame on this blog. I can only imagine how you or the other Bernadette supporter would react if I will set out to insult Bernadette, or Bernadette supporters.
I also wrote that the heights of her ignorance and stupidity is matched by the depths of your delusion, which is absolutely true. She sympathizes with a murderer, wrote that Kirsten played a role in her murder, wrote that Kirsten's parents were to blame for her murder, she is irrationally angry with strangers for discussing a murderer, yet she has the laughable audacity to call someone else "mentally ill", or " in need of help", or "a serious mental case"....etc
"Her objection stems from the exposure of Bernadette Protti's new identity"
Bernadette's "new identity" was available online long before this blog was created and I'm sure she's aware of that.
* I also wrote that the heights of her ignorance and stupidity is matched by the depths of her delusion, not your delusion*
ReplyDeleteAlso, one of her comments to me was in response to a comment I wrote defending Kirsten, so I don't agree with your point "she doesn't purport to be against anyone who supports or sympathizes with a murder". victim".
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else find it odd that Bernadette has a profile on damn near any social media site? I would think someone in her shoes would want to be hidden and invisible to the public. That is one of many reasons that some people change their names in hopes no one will figure out who they really are. Makes me wonder why is Jeannette NOT doing that. Anyone that looks hard enough will see a breadcrumb trail leading to Jeannettes social media account. The it dawned on me. The worst of the worst actually get off knowing the pain they caused not only their victim but the victims family and friends as well. These killers attends the funeral to see the pain and grief of these people too. Makes me think she has all these social media accounts knowing those that look hard enough will find her and express their hate,anger, and sorrow. Which could be exactly what Jeannette is hoping for.
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ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous
Yes, it is odd. Perhaps she thinks that her blog/FB page will present her as a wholesome run of the mill God fearing mother and housewife. The lack of interaction on her FB just draws attention to her and only confirms that it's just for show. Judging from how generic her FB/blog/twitter is, she clearly has no interest in them and probably feels resentfully obligated to answer people in order to keep up the "Suzy Homemaker" façade. I'm sure she will keep running them out of defiance with a middle finger to other websites that discuss her and the fact that she wasn't some bullied hard - done by doe eyed little lamb that was "pushed to her limit".
"Anyone that looks hard enough will see a breadcrumb trail leading to Jeannettes social media account"
Yes. Also, the deleted comments will just arouse suspicion.
"The it dawned on me. The worst of the worst actually get off knowing the pain they caused not only their victim but the victims family and friends as well. These killers attends the funeral to see the pain and grief of these people too"
That's an interesting point. It reminds me of murderers that go back to the crime scene. Have you looked at the "visitor's posts" and read the response to her being asked: "life hacker, what does that mean to you? I thought her answer had a nefarious double meaning with the winking smiley face. She knew how the unfortunate phrase "life hacker" would be interpreted, yet she used it anyway which suggests that she is mocking Kirsten's murder.
As I wrote elsewhere, an example that shows that Bernadette didn't have respect for Kirsten's family and shows how detached Bernadette was from killing Kirsten was that she appeared to have no inhibitions about attending Kirsten's funeral. She would have seen Kirsten's parents and brother crying anguished tears of unfathomable sorrow and would have seen the inconsolable grief and despair etched into their faces, and she had the unconscionable gall to not only attend Kirsten's funeral knowing she was responsible for putting Kirsten in her coffin, but also had the cold nerve to be in the presence of and be able to look at Kirsten's family and friends whose sadness and grief would have been heart wrenchingly palpable. I don't think a sane or remorseful person could endure being confronted with so much pain that they were responsible for, yet Bernadette could and did. She could "block it out of her mind" (her words).
"Makes me think she has all these social media accounts knowing those that look hard enough will find her and express their hate,anger, and sorrow"
That's a good point. Surely someone who is truly remorseful and really wants to stay hidden would not purposely subject themselves to the negative opinions of others, which will continue to bring her crime back to her time and time again. Surely someone who wants to forget about their past wouldn't put themselves through that.
Never mind the "F: purplehaze" at the top of my comment. I thought I was writing under "anonymous", but I forgot that I signed in. I'm tired, lol.
ReplyDeleteHow can someone be rehabilitated after such a horrible murder? She was perceived as sweet by some but she must have been harbouring a lot of hate towards Kirsten for a long time in order to freak out and murder her the way she did. Sweet my ass.
ReplyDeleteSigh....isn't it boring when someone comes on here and plays both sides by writing comments against Bernadette under one article and comments in support of Bernadette under another. Why are you trying to cause conflict, honey?
ReplyDeleteThe person that threatened Britney and wrote terrible things about Kirsten is a disturbed woman called Josephine. Josephine is so crazy it has has manifested in her eyes -- she is cockeyed. Crazy cockeyed Josephine has a weird infatuation with killer Bernie. I've noticed that Bernie bares a striking resemblance to beaker the muppet. I know it's cruel to compare sweet lovable beaker to Bernie. Did you know that Bernie's sister has been writing on this forum? She has.
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ReplyDeleteSo you don't accept any responsibility on this victim's side about her fate? Surely murder shouldn't have happened and is always wrong, I'm not defending that, But do I walk around insulting strangers at the streets or go Detroit yelling niggas? I would be searching for my own death, and I 'd be stupid. Her parents raised her evil or maybe it was all her.We write our own destiny with our actions, too bad some don't learn or still don't see any fault in her actions. It's not right to die for bullying, but it's not right to bully. How we do know the girl she bullied seriously wasn't complaining suicide? This is complicated issue, but if someone diggs blood from her nose, she will surely find some. World has people who take matter into their own hands, wheter we like it or not.
ReplyDeleteExcuse my long response, but I like my comments to be thorough.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
I don't know whether or not your comment is trolling because it is just as silly as the one above it.
"So you don't accept any responsibility on this victim's side about her fate"
I don't know what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that it was Kirsten's "fate" to be murdered by Bernadette and are you suggesting that people on this blog should take responsibility for what happened to Kirsten? That doesn't make any sense. No, I don't take responsibility for Kirsten's murder because not only was I not there, but I wasn't born. The only person that should take responsibility for Kirsten's murder is Bernadette.
"Surely murder shouldn't have happened and is always wrong, I'm not defending that"
Kirsten should not have been murdered and yes, you are defending it. You wrote that "we write our own destinies with our actions, too bad some don't learn or still don't see any fault in her actions", which does imply that you are defending Kirsten's murder. You also wrote "Her parents raised her evil or maybe it was all her", which also suggests that you are defending Kirsten's murder. How was Kirsten evil? Bernadette concocted a plan to get Kirsten out of her house and it appears that Kirsten got annoyed when she discovered that Bernadette lied to her to get her out of her house alone. Bernadette then drove Kirsten to an empty car-park and appears to have confessed feelings of admiration for her. Do you really think it’s acceptable to lure someone out of their house under false pretences and then expect a positive reaction if your lie is discovered? Kirsten ran from Bernadette’s car and wanted to be left alone, yet Bernadette stalked Kirsten to her house and killed her. It is very low to blame Kirsten's parents and I don't understand why you think it's acceptable to do that. The only evil person in this tragic case is Bernadette. Bernadette not only killed Kirsten, but she watched as two innocent girls were accused of Kirsten’s murder by the Orinda community. She also took Catechism classes with one of the accused girls and would have no doubt seen the emotional toll being falsely accused of murder would have taken on the girl, yet she acted like nothing was amiss.
Perhaps you are calling Kirsten "evil" because you believe she bullied Bernadette? Where is the evidence for that? If Bernadette was bullied, why didn't she give examples which would have strengthened her case? Why deliberately refrain from giving examples if doing so could have led to a first degree murder charge? If Bernadette was charged with first degree murder, it's highly possible she would have had to serve her full nine year sentence, so it doesn't make sense that she would withhold information.
Perhaps you think Kirsten was "evil" because she made a comment about Bernadette's skis? Everyone has made at least one silly comment to someone else in their lives, including you. Should you have been murdered for making a comment to someone else? Are you "evil" for making a comment to someone else?
"But do I walk around insulting strangers at the streets or go Detroit yelling niggas? I would be searching for my own death, and I 'd be stupid"
No, I'm sure you wouldn't do that, but how does this compare to what to happened to Kirsten? Killing someone because they were called a "nigga" is very extreme and just as extreme as Bernadette's murder of Kirsten. I don't mean to be disrespectful to African Americans and I understand that the " n word" has negative connotations, but if someone kills over a word, they shouldn't be living freely in society.
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ReplyDelete"but it's not right to bully. How we do know the girl she bullied seriously wasn't complaining suicide?"
Where is the evidence of Kirsten bullying Bernadette? The only incident Bernadette recounted was a remark Kirsten made about her skis. She couldn’t give any more examples because there were no more examples, which is why there is still no clear reason why she killed Kirsten.
I get the impression that you were possibly bullied and you are projecting your own personal experiences on to this case.
"This is complicated issue"
I don't think so. You are suggesting that Bernadette murdered Kirsten because she was bullied and that's not the case at all. It's complicated for you because you are projecting your own negative experiences on to Kirsten.
" but if someone diggs blood from her nose, she will surely find some"
That makes about as much sense as "if someone digs sh** from their ass, they will surely find some".
"World has people who take matter into their own hands, whether we like it or not"
Yes and they should be sufficiently punished for doing so, particularly those like Bernadette who appears to have killed Kirsten because her lie to get Kirsten out of her house alone was discovered and Kirsten appears to have been annoyed over that and fled Bernadette's car as a result. Most people would have been annoyed over that and it's certainly not something one should kill over and those that think Bernadette's behaviour was acceptable should be in a Psych ward.
You also give the impression that Bernadette was "pushed" to kill Kirsten, or as some Bernadette supporter(s) have thrown around here "pushed to the brink"
Kirsten ran from Bernadette’s car and wanted to be left alone, yet Bernadette stalked Kirsten to her house. If anyone was “pushed" or "pushed to the brink”, it was Kirsten, but instead of reacting violently, she fled from Bernadette’s car. Kirsten is the victim, not Bernadette.
* but if someone kills over a word, they shouldn't be allowed to live freely in society again*
ReplyDeletePurple cunt:it is passed adolesce not past adolescence. Dumb Bitch.
ReplyDeletePurple cunt:it is passed adolescence not past adolescence. Dumb Bitch.
ReplyDeleteOuch, I'm triggered :'(
ReplyDeleteTo atone for such an egregious error, I shall whip myself incessantly with a tree switch and then I will put vinegar and lemon juice on the wounds and sit out in the sun.
Hello my name is Josephine Richardson and I just wanted to apologize for my comments blaming Kirsten for Jeannette/Bernadette murdering her. I have seen the light and realize that Bernadette was the only one responsible for Kirsten's murder. She deserved a harsher punishment. God bless Kirsten and her family, amen. Psalm 51: Have mercy upon me, O GOD, According to Your lovin gkindness; According to the multitude of Your tender mercies, Blot out my transgressions. Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity, And cleanse me from my sin. Selah.
ReplyDeleteVirginia/Jeanette aka sallyjohnson/judysciple/hippechick...join with me in repentance for speaking ill of others and ill of the dead. James 4:11– 2: Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge Peter 2:1; Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, an envies, and all evil speakings, As newborn babes, desire the sincere ile of the word, that ye may grow thereby: if ye have tasted the LORD is gracious. To whom coming, us unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of GOD and precious. Psalm 32:5: I acknowledged my sin to You, And my iniquity I did not hide; I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD"; And You forgave the guilt of my sin. Selah.
ReplyDeleteIt's great to see people realising the truth.
ReplyDeleteI never comment on these sites, however, I couldn't hold it in. I can understand why this site is being obsessed with this murderer. However, it will never change things. Sometimes it's best to not dwell on things we have no control over. My sister-in-law was murdered by a nasty serial killer that's sitting on death row since 1992. Our family was obsessed with him in the beginning, then it consumed our lives, to the point my brother had a break down.We should remember the loved ones we lost with love and pride and not let the evil people who took them away from us, take over our lives. It seems u think more of Bernadette than what she thinks of you. One day, she will meet her maker and will have to answer to alot, more important, higher power.
ReplyDeleteEveryone is entitled to their opinion, and they're also entitled to grieve in whatever manner provides them relief; what you're not entitled to do is tell others that your method of grieving or coping is the only acceptable way of doing it. I don't care what your occupation is or was; nor do I care what kind or how many degrees you have on a wall. People deal with tragedy differently; there isn't a one size fits all solution. I've heard just as many surviving family members of victims say they were relieved only after their loved one's murderer was finally executed as those who found relief through their own forgiveness. In fact, in places where there is no death penalty I've heard surviving family members agonize indefinitely, until their last day, over the thought and idea that their loved one's killer still interacts with his family, while all they have are memories, photographs, and a tombstone. I keep seeing folks opine that the murderer has paid her debt to society; and I would disagree completely. She's paid the debt imposed by an inadequate justice system that too often forgets about the rights of the victim in its quest to protect those of the offender. That's the root of the problem. People are fed up with a lousy justice system, because "justice" is so rarely meted out adequately. 7 years for murder? I don't care if she planned the murder days in advance or minutes in advance; justice would mean incarceration for the number of years she deprived her victim of living. If the average life span of a woman living in the States is 75 years, she should have gotten 75 years minus the age of the victim when she was murdered... 60 years, and not a day less. To be perfectly honest, even that would be inadequate and inequitable because the murderer would still get to live and interact with loved ones for those 60 years; but at least it'd be significantly closer to actual justice than what she got.
ReplyDeleteI just wonder if she thinks about it everyday or if her kids know or when her kids get to be teenagers or even adults will find these blogs and interviews or even the movie and how she will explain what happened. I don't know either of the familes involved my heart breaks for the Costa's and my heart breaks for the Protti's. I'm not picking sides because I have 2 girls of my own and I couldn't imagine going through what both these familes went through.
ReplyDeleteI'm not defending anyone but this blog seems to represent the exact environment that caused this whole mess. As someone who was in high school in the bay area at the time this is the exact view we had of the Orinda/Moraga community.
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ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous,
You clearly are defending someone (Bernadette) if you are suggesting that "this whole mess" (Bernadette murdering Kirsten) was because "of the environment". Bernadette was dangerously sick with an inferiority complex and suffered from jealously issues, which must have been quit severe as she was receiving counselling for it. As I wrote elsewhere on the blog: "the pressure to "fit in", "look a certain way" and the pressure to succeed is universal and is/was not unique to Miramonte and Orinda, and it certainly should not be used as a scapegoat to explain away Bernadette's dangerous mental instability and inferiority complex.
I lived in two different countries when I was a teenager (one was literally on the other side of the world from the other -- southern hemisphere to northern hemisphere) and "fitting in" and "looking a certain way" was also something teenagers went through and do you know how many people murdered someone else as a result of it? 0!
"As someone who was in high school in the bay area at the time "
I don't believe you.
What environment does this blog represent? Give examples in order clarify your point.
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing your compassionate perspective, Detective. I agree with you that Bernadette Protti has the right to a private life, and that continued persecution serves no good purpose. My condolences on the loss of your loved one.
ReplyDeleteSure, Virginia, er........ Anonymous. You have clearly demonstrated throughout this forum that you are as sick and as disturbed as your murderer sister. Compassion? You have no concept of compassion. You still defend your sister and think she was right in what she did. Heinous murders should follow the murderers around for the rest of their lives, particularly unprovoked murders. I wonder if you would defend a murderer if your child was savagely murdered? Of course you wouldn't.
ReplyDeleteHi ET,
ReplyDeleteMy comments probably come across as hostile, but that isn't my intention.
"I'm a retired detective and narcotics agent"
I was an MI5 agent, but now I am a professional balloon artist that travels to county fairs to excite and astound the senses of my many spectators with my intricate balloon animals that I create with my feet whilst locked in a safe submerged in a shark tank. We can all be what we want to be on the internet. If you were an ex detective, what was the purpose of mentioning it? It can't be proven. Or did you mention it because you thought it would portray you as having some sort of intellectual superiority and the utmost authority to comment on this case, therefore making your opinions more valid than everyone else's? You haven't demonstrated that in your comment. All you have done is preach, patronise and self righteously dictate what people should do or how they should feel. What was the purpose of mentioning that you are a narcotics agent and how it that relevant?
"I have a degree in forensic psychology and I do not believe that Bernadette would reoffend"
Since you can predict the future, can you please give me the Euromillions lotto numbers for next Friday? Your degree doesn't mean you can conclusively predict what a person will or won't do and a degree does not prove that a person is educated, qualified, or intelligent.
You need to look up the definition of stalking, harassing and obsession and familiarise yourself with their meanings. An example of stalking and harassing would be if people constantly contacted Bernadette directly and gave her their unsolicited opinions of her, or followed and kept up to date with her every single move on the internet and off the internet.
Obsession is to keep thinking about something constantly to the point of fixation. Just because some people write what they think of Bernadette on a small innocuous blog (which has generally been very tame) it doesn't mean that they constantly think about Bernadette and it's very childish to suggest that. Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted with a murderer and defend a murder victim? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted with the murderer’s nonchalant behaviour after her brutal crime? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted that the murderer allowed two innocent girls to be accused of the murder? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted that the murderer was able to nonchalantly discuss Kirsten's murder in class with other classmates, including Kirsten's friends? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted that Bernadette's behaviour was reported to not have changed after she murdered Kirsten?
"She has served her time"
That's debatable. Bernadette lured Kirsten out of her house under false pretences to a non existent sorority dinner and when Kirsten discovered that Bernadette lied to her, she ran from Bernadette’s car and wanted to be left alone, yet Bernadette stalked Kirsten to her house and killed her. Bernadette ambushed Kirsten from behind with a 15/18 inch knife, inflicted Kirsten with two wounds down her back that were two feet long and continued to stab Kirsten in the stomach when she was suffering on the ground with her wounds. I don't agree that 7 years in a juvenile facility, the ability to complete HS education, study college courses, get a name change and have the murder stricken from her record is time served for such a brutal murder.
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ReplyDelete"She has to live with what she did every day"
That's debatable. She was able to block the murder out of her mind (her words) and was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to attend Kirsten's funeral and to be in the presence of and be able to look at Kirsten’s family whose sadness and grief would have been heart wrenchingly palpable. She would have seen Kirsten’s parents crying anguished tears of unfathomable sorrow and would have seen the inconsolable grief and despair etched into their faces. A sane person would not have been able to endure being confronted with so much pain that they knew they were responsible for, yet Bernadette could and did. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to watch as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that her behaviour was reported to not have changed after she killed Kirsten (She was described as her usual smiley self). If Bernadette was able to block out and detach herself from Kirsten's murder when she was a teenager, it's possible that she can block out and detach herself from Kirsten's murder now as an adult.
Quotes from the case:
Detective Oda said: "Protti was determined to kill Costas if Kirsten did not agree to be her friend and get her into the in-crowd.” “He called Protti’s confession to authorities ”self-serving” and said that she was without remorse until she realized her arrest was imminent.”
“Asked what Kirsten had done to make her angry, Bernadette said: “I have a lot of inferiority feelings — and I really have bad feelings about myself. I lost for cheerleader. I didn’t get into the club I wanted to. I didn’t get on yearbook. So, I don’t know, I just felt bad.”
Bernadette said "she was really good at blocking [what had happened] out of her mind, and I still am,” she said later. “That’s why I can live through every day, because it doesn’t seem real.”
It appears that she wasn't sorry that she killed Kirsten and was only sorry that she was caught.
" I don't believe in a registry for murderers because once you're a convicted felon, you're a ex-felon for life and that has consequences"
That is not the case for Bernadette. The murder was stricken from her record and she was free to live in anonymity with her new name.
"Putting up a blog like this one helps no one"
Actually, it informs people that Kirsten wasn't the insufferable bully bitch depicted in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader", and Bernadette wasn't the sweet little self conscious lamb that yearned for popularity, but mean Kirsten stood in her way. My point is, Bernadette wasn't the socially inept misfit depicted in the movie and was suggested "to be popular in her own way".
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"It just satisfies your base desires and feelings"
Satisfies base desires and feelings? Is that an attempt at psychoanalysing strangers on this blog? We can all engage in that nonsense. Is it a sign of arrogance or insecurity when a person cites their credentials to strangers, especially something as irrelevant as being a narcotics agent? Is your identity and self esteem so tethered to their titles that you feel the need to mention it to internet strangers? That's not very secure, is it?
I get no enjoyment from writing on this blog, especially writing about Kristen's vicious murder. How very dare people for being disgusted with Kirsten's murder and expressing it on a small, innocuous blog!
"It just satisfies your base desires and feelings. It serves no good purpose and shows poor judgment and poor impulse control"
That is very arrogant and self righteous. Have you any self awareness or are your brain cells too small in number to include sentience? I'm joking. You need to get a bit of perspective. An example of poor judgement was when Bernadette concocted a plan to get Kirsten out of her house and couldn't foresee that it would be interpreted as strange or possibly something sexual. Bernadette drove Kirsten to an empty car-park and whatever happened in the car-park alarmed Kirsten to such a degree that she felt the need to flee from Bernadette's car to a strangers house. Bernadette then followed Kirsten to the strangers house an obnoxiously tailgated the man who drove Kirsten home. An example of poor impulse control was when Bernadette couldn't accept that Kirsten was perturbed by her behaviour and instead of leaving Kirsten alone and going home, she brutally attacked Kirsten from behind and murdered her.
Hi Kristina,
ReplyDeleteWhat is offensive? I didn't state that you annoyed me. Look at the comments again.
"but that part is over and there is nothing anyone can do to change that"
That goes without saying and who is trying to change it?
"I don't like bullies"
What bullies?
I never stated that I was annoyed or that you offended me.
Anonymous, November 29, 2016 at 12:21
ReplyDeleteWhat an excellent comment. You articulated points that I couldn't and also got to the point quickly, unlike me with my 3 damn comments.
I don't know if a lot of people are aware that Bernadette didn't have a drivers liscense and conned her Dad into believing that she was babysitting at a neighbors which she had only done one time for that family a year prior. To add to the whole conniving premeditated lie she then convinced her Dad to park the car in the neighbors driveway to look like they were home because supposedly there had been robberies in the neighborhood and she was scared. Another premeditated part to the whole scheme to murder Kirsten along with having a knife in the car and luring her out of her home for a fake sorority dinner. I was one of Kirsten's close friends who was part of many conversations in science class in wondering who could do such a horrible thing as we were all devastated and she completely fooled a large group of friends with a stone face and even was a part of the conversation. It still is so eerie to me. She is a sociopath. No remorse. Bloodchilling and I don't know how anyone can make the call that she will never murder again.
ReplyDeleteI sat I classes with Bernadette before and after she murdered Kristen. We were not friends but not enemies either. During some conversations after Kristens murder Bernadette would say things like "how could someone do something like that". Bernadette seemed upset and sad about Kristen's death. I still can't believe she fooled us all. Looking back after watching the story again I would like to comment that, she had to be a sociopath to act the way she did in school and I have to wonder, will she snap and kill again?
ReplyDeleteBy the way I forgot to mention. Unless you knew Kristen don't judge her based on some TV show trying to get ratings. While Kristen may not have socialized with less popular students she was never a bully. Think before you comment about someone your never knew.
ReplyDeleteHi itsaboutime,
ReplyDeleteDid you write the last two comments? I'm asking because there is a fantasist that frequents this blog and pretends to be other people.
"Bernadette didn't have a drivers liscense and conned her Dad into believing that she was babysitting at a neighbors which she had only done one time for that family a year prior.
I forgot about that. Were burglaries reported in the area? If burglaries were not reported, surely the father would have known or should have known that Bernadette was talking nonsense. What a shame the father didn't just say "no".
"I was one of Kirsten's close friends who was part of many conversations in science class in wondering who could do such a horrible thing as we were all devastated and she completely fooled a large group of friends"
I can't imagine the horror you felt when you found out Bernadette was the murderer. It just goes to show how detached Bernadette was from killing Kirsten if she could not only have conversations about Kirsten's murder with classmates, but also have conversations with you and other friends with a straight face. Crazy. I read that a friend of Kirsten's actually did suspect Bernadette before she was caught.
There is a new documentary about this case and it was intimated that Bernadette brought the knife. Have you seen it? There was also footage of Kirsten's parents. I know it's difficult to ascertain what a person is like from a few mins of footage, but Kirsten's parents really did come across as gentle, unassuming people as opposed to the haughty way they were portrayed in the movie (not that I took the movie seriously).
Wow. That is all I can say. I think the root of your age beyond the obvious is the lenient treatment by the system. So on top of the shock to your grief system, justice was never really served given the magnitude of the crime. I get that and I think that is the root of your anger. I get it. But that is fairytale thinking. You will always be pissed off beyond pissed off that she did not do 25 year as it was obviously a 1st degree murder, but under California laws, she would have been out still young enough to have a life (whereas your friend did not get that chance) I get that too. But "Vengence is mine" sayeth the Lord. Remember, we may not be around to see it, but it will happen. I am not sure what a hormone raging teenage girl at 16 would be like today as a grown woman. I am pretty sure not the same. You are correct that there is something fundamentally wrong with a person who would kill another who has that much rage in them. But that is something that should be circumspect looking at 16 versus how old she is today. She probably was embarrassed, horrified, scared, ashamed and probably knows that condemnation is surely coming her way in the afterlife for her crime. Bitterness and anger hurts you. It is hard to let that go, and I get that too. But for your own soul, try to think of the positives of your friend while she was alive. I also believe People are not forgotten so long as they are remembered is someone's heart. So you are doing a service to your friend's memory. Remember the positive for you and your friends and loved ones. It is easy to have negativity and hard to have positivity, and truly hope you find peace.
ReplyDeleteSociety has a right to their opinions in judging murderers here on earth. Bernadette/Jeannette stepped outside of societies boundaries when she broke the law and murdered a defenseless Kirsten.
ReplyDeleteWow. This blog and the comments are the best argument I've ever seen for America needing easier access to mental healthcare. Holy shit.
ReplyDeleteHi Purple Haze. I did not post those last two comments after mine. That person,anonymous, does not spell Kirsten's name right. Kirsten did socialize with many people, "less popular" and everyone else in my opinion.
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ReplyDeleteHi Kate,
ReplyDeleteI don't have a problem if you or other Bernadette supporters disagree with this blog and I don't mind being challenged, but I'm disappointed with the lack of cogent arguments put forth. I find that If a Bernadette supporter isn't patronising, they are hurling insults, which is silly.
I understand that I can come across as hostile or bitchy (I genuinely don't mean to be a lot of the time), but It's a pity that you consider that those who empathise with Kirsten's murder are in need of mental health care.
I'm NOT American and I'm sure that has been mentioned on this thread. It's a shame that you – an adult – felt the need to log on to a blog that supports a murder victim for the purpose of insulting those who support her. As I'm a wonderful and kind-hearted person, I won't hold it against you and I want to wish you a very Happy Christmas/ Happy Holidays/ Happy xmas/ Happy Hanukkah/ Happy Kwanzaa, and a very Happy New Year! xxxxx
Hi itsaboutime,
ReplyDeleteYeah, I didn't think so.
I know a name can be accidentally misspelled sometimes, but a friend wouldn't misspell it twice in the same comment.
I hope you have a Happy Christmas/Happy xmas.
All the best.
Hi Anonymous, Dec 19.
ReplyDeleteI'm not trying to answer for someone else, but I just wanted to address some of your points. Also, I probably come across as hostile, which isn't my intention.
"Wow?" What is so surprising that you must say (write) wow?
It's best not to make assumptions if a person is grieving or not and if they are, what position are you in to dictate how someone else should deal with such a deeply personal thing?
"For your own soul?" What does that even mean? Are you attempting to subject someone else to religious dogma because she wrote a couple of comments expressing her sadness over Kirsten's murder? Get off your high horse.
"I am not sure what a hormone raging teenage girl at 16 would be like today as a grown woman, I am pretty sure not the same"
There was a lot more going on with Bernadette than raging hormones. I remember when I was 16 and I never felt compelled to murder someone else because I was called a name. However, I wouldn't have lured an acquaintance out of her house under false pretenses either. Most people would be annoyed if an acquaintance concocted a ruse to get them out of their house alone.
If someone is so consumed with such a rabid rage because they were called "weird" that they kill someone else in a heinous frenzied knife attack, what makes you think that that person is no longer dangerous just because she is older? I don't know whether or not she will offend again and I hope she doesn't, but such a gross overreaction to something so minor is frightening, teenager or not. Bernadette's behaviour was odd and Kirsten had a right to call her out on it. Assuming that a person is automatically different just because they are older is illogical.
"She probably was embarrassed, horrified, scared,
ashamed"?
Her behaviour after the murder suggests otherwise. I've already written this above, but I will write it again. She was able to block the murder out of her mind (her words) and was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to attend Kirsten's funeral and to be in the presence of and be able to look at Kirsten’s family whose sadness and grief would have been heart wrenchingly palpable. She would have seen Kirsten’s parents crying anguished tears of unfathomable sorrow and would have seen the inconsolable grief and despair etched into their faces. A sane/horrified/scared/ashamed person would not have been able to endure being confronted with so much pain that they knew they were responsible for, yet Bernadette could and did. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to watch as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that her behaviour was reported to not have changed after she killed Kirsten (She was described as her usual smiley self).
"But that is fairytale thinking"
If anyone is engaging in fairytale thinking, it is you. You are clearly so high up on a moral throne you've built quite comfortably for yourself in fairyland if you think you have the authority to state what God will do with Bernadette (no-one knows for a fact what will happen in the afterlife and no, a book written 2,000 years ago isn't incontrovertible evidence or proof), you have the audacious temerity to suggest that another person's soul is in danger, you are assuming a person is bitter and you are attempting to tell another person how they should deal with grief. As I wrote above, get off your high horse
Whoops I posted the same comment twice. Excuse me.
ReplyDeleteVery classy, Kate.
ReplyDeletePURPLEHAZE I FCKING HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE BITCH
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteIt hurts me to the depths of my soul that a stranger on the internet hates me. I shall spend many a night crying into my pillow over it.
You don't need to "hope" that I die. My death (like your death) is inevitable you silly goose, so you don't need to "hope" that it happens.
The "Hope you die" post sounds like it was written by a child, most likely a family member. Obviously many innocent people are being swept up in this determination to expose Bernadette Protti. I wish people would keep that in mind and resist the urge to hurl ridicule and insults (no, I'm not talking only to you, PH). The facts of the case are bad enough.
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous,
ReplyDelete"The "Hope you die" post sounds like it was written by a child, most likely a family member"
I'm not so sure about that.
If a child in Bernadette's family (for ex: Bernadette's child) was told about Bernadette's murder, surely Bernadette would BLOCK (it's quite easy to do) this website and others that discuss her crime. It wouldn't make sense not to.
I think it's either a person that has identified a bit too much with the fictional character Bernadette is based on in the movie, Death of a Cheerleader. Or it's just someone trying to provoke a negative reaction.
Can you please point out how I have "exposed" Bernadette? Do you consider it exposing Bernadette to point out that she was able to block the murder out of her mind (her words) and was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to attend Kirsten's funeral and to be in the presence of and be able to look at Kirsten’s family?
Is it considered exposing Bernadette to point out she was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends? Is it considered exposing Bernadette to point out she was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to watch as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder? Is it considered exposing Bernadette to point out she was so detached from killing Kirsten that her behaviour was reported to not have changed in the months following Kirsten's murder? (She was described as her usual smiley self). Is it considered exposing Bernadette to point out she put the knife she used to kill Kirsten back in the kitchen even though she said she found it in the car?
The above points are facts.
"I wish people would keep that in mind and resist the urge to hurl ridicule and insults "
Do you think my previous comment was insulting? Is "silly goose" considered an insult now?
Do you find my comments insulting and do you think I come across as ridiculing the person I respond to? The above comments are quite restrained. If you think my comments were rude, I can assure you that I'm capable of far worse.
All the best.
》Can you please point out how I have "exposed" Bernadette?
ReplyDeleteThe name of this blog is bernadette protti exposed and I don't think they were talking to u personally
Hi Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteYeah, that's true.
I was asking the individual if he/she found my comments insulting and if she thinks I come across as ridiculing the person I respond to.
I know I come across as sarcastic sometimes, but my comments have been very tame imo, and they are certainly not as bad as the egregious comment above: "YOU SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO WAS STABBED TO DEATH YOU DUMB CUNT!"
Funnily enough, when I first discovered this blog I was a silent observer and intended to remain that way until I read horrible comments written about Kirsten.
You will go to hell and I hope you are repeatedly raped by satan's thorny 40 inched dick.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous. Seriously. Delusional. Get help.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous how do you know so much about Satan? Were you down there with him? This is probably Bernadette or one of her disturbed sister s or friends
ReplyDeleteWhoever talks about Satan like that is probably a Satan worshipper and Bernadette if it's you, you're more deranged than we can ever imagine. How's your BFF doing the weirdo that stuck by you in court she s deranged also has to be to be friends with you after all you did. She was a misfit at the end also who Miramonte students shunned.
ReplyDeleteThey shunned her because of you Bernadette but she chose to stick up for you. It's her fault to. She said horrible things about Kirssten. She deserved shunned. They d sure shunned you if you went back to Miramonte, you wouldn't survive a week there.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous, it's best not to post comments when you have been on the drink.
ReplyDeleteWhich anonymous?
ReplyDeleteWell it's all so so lame to me stupid people and thier ridiculous postings. We don't care to hear the dirty talk about Satan. That is so disgusting.
ReplyDeleteWhich Anonymous, you ask? The one who can't spell worth a shit.
ReplyDeleteCalm down, Anonymous. There is no need to insult another person. You might hurt her feelings and I don't think God would be very happy with you.
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous, 6:39 (English woman who often posts on this blog). Will you be watching the 6 nations, or will you be spending your time writing to yourself under different articles on this blog? (I've seen the other comments you have posted)
ReplyDeleteWill England record a 15th consecutive win, or will France regain their legendary French flair and scupper England’s chances of winning the six nations championship?
Will the tenacious, physically imposing Italy record a first ever win over Wales?
After success in the PRO12 and Autumn Internationals, will Scotland have the mental and physical fortitude to play a competitive 80 minutes against their Irish Celtic foes that are missing important players due to injury?
Questions, questions, so many questions...
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ReplyDeleteHi Felica, I read your comment. That's her sister -- the one that testified in court that she uses a 15in knife to cut veggies and fruit and she might have left it in the car.
ReplyDeleteThat's Virginia Protti's LinkedIn profile. Aided and abetted a murderer should have also been included in the profile.
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ReplyDeleteCela fait 30 ans. .Lorsque l'on a purgé sa peine on a droit à retrouver sa place de citoyen dans la société. Vous vous prenez pour des juges et des dieux. .c'est effrayant et affligeant
ReplyDeleteHello my French friend,
ReplyDeleteIs it necessary to point out how much time it's been since the murder? People are perfectly aware of how much time has passed. I'm sure it feels like yesterday for Kirstens loved ones. I disagree with you. I think it's "scary" that some individuals feel sorry for, or defend Bernadette. I will always judge murderers. Bernadette killed in cold blood and her heinous murder and her nonchalant behaviour after the murder should be mentioned. Please explain why you support Bernadette? I'm genuinely interested. In an attempt to understand your point of view, I'm going to point out the details of the case.
She wasn't bullied by Kirsten.
It was stated by a mutual friend that she "idolised" Kirsten.
She was smart and did well in school.
She had friends who cared about her.
She was described as "popular in her own way".
She was invited to join a club that consisted only of popular people.
She took it upon herself to concoct a ruse to lure Kirsten out of her house.
When Kirsten discovered Bernadette's lies, she appears to have been annoyed. It appears that Bernadette's feelings for Kirsten then came flooding out, which alarmed Kirsten to such a degree that she ran from Bernadette's car to the house of a stranger and Bernadette followed her.
Bernadette then stalked the car that drove Kirsten home and ambushed Kirsten from behind with a large knife and stabbed her to death.
Bernadette stabbed Kirsten five times. Two of Kirsten's wounds were two feet long.
Bernadette returned the knife she used to kill Kirsten to the kitchen drawer. Family members probably used the murder weapon to prepare food.
If Bernadette found the knife in the car, why didn't she return it to the car.
After Kirsten's murder, Bernadette coolly took a walk with her mother. Bernadette continued on with life like nothing happened and her behaviour was reported to not have changed after Kirsten's murder. She could block it out of her mind (her words)
She discussed Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, including some of Kirsten's friends.
She also watched as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder and ostracised by their community.
Bernadette had jealously issues.
Bernadette had feelings of inferiority and Bernadette said Kirsten "represented it all".
Bernadette confessed because she knew the FBI were on to her. Their profile of the killer was remarkably accurate.
From looking at my above points, Bernadette was not a sympathetic character, so I find any support for her quite baffling. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to why you feel sympathy for a murderer? Thank you.
Bonjour Bitch. Merci de nous avoir montrer vos compétences linguistiques. Bernadette n'est pas désoléé. Je pense qu'elle est très, très heureuse Kirsten est morte.
ReplyDeleteJe suis complètement d'accord avec toi.
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't surprise me if the French speaker is a Protti family member. It's cute she pretended to be French, though.
ReplyDeleteBernadette wasn't bullied near as bad as her sisters in grammar school, the ones who were nicknamed Protti Private. They were outcast's. But Bernadette was as popular as Kirsten, she was in the very same club Kirsten was in. She just let her fears get the best of her, and she allowed 2 innocent girls to be blamed, it wouldn't of mattered if one of them went to prison, as long as it wasn't Bernadette. Kirsten knew she was weird and odd and was going to out her over it and Bernadette freaked out. Well Bernadette should of just left Kirsten alone, and well enough alone, so she'd been the target of jokes, she became that anyway after they realized she was the killer, and she can't return. To Orinda without someone seeing her, of Kirsten would of lived, she d matured and it'd be all over with, teen girls mature over a period of time, and we all have moments where we are bears, but we grow out of it, and Bernadette would of been able to live in Orinda still, the kids would of gotten over it once they became adults, they didn't forgive her as kids once they found out she murdered. They won't as adults either, neither will the community of Orinda. Bernadette had a close friend so she should of just hung out with her that girl was popular to. She isn't anymore either, she probably still lives in the area, but people probably won't accept her anymore today than they did 32 years ago. Bernadette ruined a lot of lives, the Costas family, the 2 blamed girls, and her best friend who became ostrasized.
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of gormless and disgusting people on this blog defending Bernadette/Jeannette's unforgivable actions. Get a life.
ReplyDeleteHow were Bernadette's sisters outcasts?
ReplyDeleteI don't think Bern was as popular as Kirsten. If she was as popular why did she want Kirsten's approval so badly?
I agree with you that people would have matured over time.
Her best friend ostracized herself by defending a murderer.