Do you think Bernadette/Jeannette got enough time?
I receive emails all the time and comments of people saying one thing or another. Some are mad that I have this blog up. They think I'm "punishing" Jeannette when she has already "suffered".
I would have to politely disagree. I don't feel justice was served, and I really do feel like Bernadette should really just now be getting out.
I know back in the 80's especially, it was geared to Rehab youth offenders. You couldn't just through a juvenile in prison for life. But I do feel like she should have served at least 30 years. Then after we couldn't hold her any longer release her.
She should have been charged as an adult. She has gone on to have a full life and Kirsten has not. So no, I don't feel bad for having this blog and Jeannette should thank her lucky stars she had a weak willed Prosecutor and Judge.
posted by Bernadette Protti new ID revealed @ 6:02 PM
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112 Comments:
"They think I'm "punishing" Jeannette when she has already "suffered"
Psychopaths don't "suffer" at all. I'm sure she is very pleased with herself.
Surely you don't get a lot of emails on behalf of Bernadette/Jeannette? Then again it's possible people believe the fictional film "Death of a cheerleader" and believe Kirsten was like the Staci Lockwood character. After all, some people are gullible and naive and believe everything they see without giving it any critical thought
I agree she should have gotten at least 30 years.
Do you get a lot of emails in general about this?
It's just sad, that people really believe Kirsten deserved it. I get several emails but they're mostly in support of the page.
She hasn't been posting or anything much lately. Too bad we don't have any info if there has been any fallout for her.
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Sue,
I'm sure if people she knew became aware of her history, she would attempt to explain it away by portraying herself to be a hard done by victim, which some people would be stupid enough to believe.
There has actually been a lot of fallout. More than you know.
If you knew the whole story I think you'd back off
What are you talking about? She is posting more than ever. If the objective of this ridiculous blog was to shame her into silence, it clearly isn't working.
There is so much that you do not know. I'm not talking about the murder, that's well documented. The aftermath is not what you think. There has been so much upheaval it's mind boggling. I doubt it will ever be made public, though
Bernadette, you really are priceless. The two last comments are clearly the same person. Nice try, though.
I am the one who posted the subsequent Anonymous comment, and I have no relation to Jeannette, her family or Unknown, whomever he/she is. I do however have children around the same age as Jeannette's and that is why I feel sympathy for them. It seems to be a defining feature of this blog that anyone who expresses sympathy for Jeannette's family, or God forbid Jeannette herself, is automatically accused of being Jeannette or a family member. As if no one else could possibly hold a different opinion. Really?
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Anonymous,
This blog isn't "ridiculous". It exposes the truth that Kirsten's murder wasn't about bullying. It is quite silly of you to read a blog and comment on it if you find it "ridiculous". It's not a "defining feature for people to automatically be accused of being Bernadette's/Jeannette's family members". Her family members have clearly posted here and your obnoxious comments are familiar. Of course people have different opinions, but judging from your previous comment (3:48) your presence here was clearly to elicit a negative reaction. I too feel sympathy for Bernadette's children as it must be horrendous to discover your Mother is a murderer and the cold viscous manner in which she murdered Kirsten would no doubt be quite chilling for a child. However, I'm sure Bernadette will attempt to lessen it's brutality by feigning victimhood. Have a good day.
Those comments were from me. We've been emailing tonight.
Unknown,
I thought the anonymous comment Feb 13,2016, 7:09 and also the anonymous individual who referred to this blog as "ridiculous" at Feb 12, 2016, 3:48 was someone else.
Not true. I know they're are clowns out there who have sympathy for Bernadette who isn't related to her. I assume they're also Donald Trump supporters lol
In case anyone is wondering if Bernadtte/Jeannette are the same person...I found out some info on ancestry.com.
Name: Bernadet J Protti
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1968
Gender: Female
Mother’s Maiden Name: Butler
Birth County: Contra Costa
Name: Jeannette Tomanka
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1968
Address: 1813 Se15 St, Oklahoma City, OK, 73160
You can change a name but not a birth date.
I wasn't in any doubt about Bernadette/Jeannette being the same person, but thank you though.
My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular but I have seen posters question if they are the same person and that's why I posted it.
Yeah. I know.
shut up!..i mean be quiet ...but to be honest with all of you ...those who don't give respect wont get respect the lady killed when she was 15 years old...she told her parents she confessed .. how many of you will do the same , I know nun of you will ..everybody pretend to care when nun of you guys really do ,forgive her .. and let our father in heaven judge her ... I'm only 17 years old ..I have been bulled many times I'm also a female and I hate to get laughed at it hurts ..boys hated me girls hated me and they still do. BUT I forgive them ...I hated the fact they spoke about me in ways that weren't true
she has been punished .. we should stop living the ladies life for her and start worrying about us not making the same mistake she did ,there isn't a doubt shes sorry ..... think of your self when you try to judge her and remember in the bible theres a story about a woman who was a prostitute and just when the men were about to stone her to death Jesus Christ stood in front of her and said ( who have not sin cast the first stone)...so ladies and gentlemen please for give her ..im not related to her I live in the Caribbean most of you guys wont know where that is located because you living the woman's life for her and not living yours ...remember don't judge others and when you point at some body else there are two pointing at the person and three pointing right back at you ( God bless you)
Anonymous
“shut up!..i mean be quiet ...but to be honest with all of you ...those who don't give respect wont get respect the lady killed when she was 15 years old..”
What do you mean “those who don’t give respect won’t get respect”. Are you referring to Kirsten? I don’t want to repeat myself as I have written the following many times, but I will write it one more time. Kirsten was lured out of her house under false pretences to a dinner that didn’t exist, so Bernadette could get her alone in an empty car-park at night because she wanted “to get to know her”. I think a lot of people would have been infuriated with Bernadette and would have found her behavior very disconcerting, so this case is nothing to do with Kirsten not “respecting Bernadette.”
“she told her parents she confessed .. how many of you will do the same”
The FBI had her cornered, so she had no choice but to confess. She shouldn’t be lauded for confessing when she knew she was caught.
“ everybody pretend to care when nun of you guys really do ,forgive her”
Pretend to care about what? As someone else stated elsewhere on the blog, our “forgiveness” doesn’t matter. It is Kirsten’s parents and brother’s forgiveness that matters.
"I'm only 17 years old ..I have been bulled many times I'm also a female and I hate to get laughed at it hurts ..boys hated me girls hated me and they still do”
I’m sorry you were bullied, but that has nothing to do with this case. Kirsten didn’t bully Bernadette. People laughing at you is a reflection of their own ignorance and stupidity.
“I hated the fact they spoke about me in ways that weren't true”
I’m sorry you went through that. If you know how bad it feels, then why are you doing it to Kirsten? You are speaking (writing) about Kirsten in ways that aren’t true and to make it worse, she isn't around to defend herself. You are attempting to suggest that she bullied Bernadette, which is a lie.
“she has been punished .. we should stop living the ladies life for her”
Yes, she has and people can disagree with it if they wish. No-one is attempting to “live her life for her”. That’s an odd thing to write. This blog is very tame when discussing Bernadette.
“and start worrying about us not making the same mistake she did”
Well, I have no intention of luring someone out of their house under false pretences and driving them to an empty car-park at night “to get to know them” , and then stabbing them to death if they don’t give me a positive reaction to my strange behaviour to get them alone. Bernadette had some sort of serious mental illness to freak out and butcher Kirsten, so to suggest that “anyone could make that same mistake” is a ridiculous absurd statement and at “17” –nearly an adult- you are quite aware that what you wrote was erroneous.
“there isn't a doubt shes sorry ..... “
You don’t know that
“so ladies and gentlemen please for give her”
As I said above, it’s really not for us to forgive her.
continued....
“..im not related to her I live in the Caribbean most of you guys wont know where that is located because you living the woman's life for her and not living yours”
Discussing this case and supporting Kirsten doesn’t mean that we are not living our lives. People spend a small fraction of their time discussing this case.
That was an interesting comment, “17 year old girl”. Please don’t get offended, but you tried too hard to portray yourself as a teen, which suggests that you aren’t a teen. Nice try, though. This is such an innocuous blog, so there is no need for you to plead on behalf of Bernadette. People are understandably horrified by the wounds Bernadette inflicted on Kirsten (two two foot wounds down stomach, a serious wound in the neck that hit an artery, two wounds in the back and a defensive wound on the arm) and are perplexed by Bernadette’s short sentence for such a vicious crime. Kirsten is also still being vilified over 30 years after her death due to people like you perpetuating the lie that Bernadette was bullied by Kirsten, or that Kirsten "didn't give respect", so you need to "shut up!..i mean be quiet" if you don't know the simple facts of the case, sweetie.
..remember don't judge others and when you point at some body else there are two pointing at the person and three pointing right back at you ( God bless you)
I have no doubt that you are pointing at least one of your fingers upwards at all of us.
God bless you too, sweetie
If you were bullied, I am sorry as well. I was made fun of which was bad but nothing compared to others. With that being said, I do not believe you are 17 either. You are trying too hard to act 17. If you are indeed 17, I would really hope that you will go back and edit every time you write ANYTHING ! If you are not 17, shame on you!
Jesus Christ, don't you dare accuse me of being anyone because, unlike you, I am not a LOSER, who spends time online looking up people, but the biggest moron has to be the comment about being a Donald Trump supporter. Listen, bitch, and I am saying bitch (sad, I am a man calling you disgusting morons, such words, but you are what you show yourself to be), I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER, and have more of a successful life, and business, then you, and 10 generations of your incest, bred mongrels. Also, I am European. Not a mixed mutt, who has to create an account to make a point no one even cares about. You probably live in trailers. I came to this site by chance because was interested in the subject, but you are big losers with severe anger issues. You have the nerve to call Bernadette angry, crazy, etc...other names, but its sad none of you read your own posts. Heard the expression same shit, different toilet. I now bless you, in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost, may you all rot in hell. Miserable people. Also, kiss my German arse! Trump has more reason, and sanity then all of you put together. Also, try comparing your poor education with my European one! Just shut up losers! A PMS fest, but in your cases I would say Menopause!
Martin
Anonymous - So, you are a now a man. Very interesting. You wonder why we are suspicious of you. You seemed to be doing a better job of writing now. Big difference. I have not read anything about you being a Trump supporter. I support Trump as well. However, I thought you did not live in the United States. I am so confused. You see I post under my name so there is no confusion with all of the people who post under "Anonymous ". In your opinion we post the "same shit". In my defense, I am discussing this case. You come on as so many different people from different parts of the world. You are the angry person here. You are the one slinging insult after insult. When I came on here, there were people who questioned me. I knew why they were questioning me. There are many people who come on these types of blogs. Many different reasons why they do. I have been up front from the beginning. I was frustrated with a couple of people whom I believed did not trust me. However, I did not keep changing my identity and call people names. I continued to learn about this case by asking questions. As far as staying online....I am drinking my coffee and catching up on email, Facebook, etc. I am not spending all day online.
P.S. Anonymous - I don't know where your other post is. I am not a 300 pound divorced woman . Nor , do I take 30 kind of medication or have a tattoo. However, I do enjoy an occasional peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
"Anonymous"
“Jesus Christ, don't you dare accuse me of being anyone”
Well, you are not a 17 year old girl that lives in the Caribbean and suffers from bullying, so it was strange of you to attempt to portray yourself as one.
“unlike you, I am not a LOSER who spends time online looking up people”
Are you suggesting that we are losers for spending a small fraction of our time discussing this case? Are you suggesting we are losers for supporting Kirsten who was viciously and cruelly killed by Bernadette?
“I am not a LOSER “
What does it suggest about you -- an adult – - that deliberately goes to a blog that you don’t like for the explicit purpose of provoking a negative reaction by hurling juvenile insults?
“the biggest moron has to be the comment about being a Donald Trump supporter. Listen, bitch, and I am saying bitch (sad, I am a man calling you disgusting morons, such words, but you are what you show yourself to be), I AM A TRUMP SUPPORTER, and have more of a successful life, and business, then you”
Whether or not you or anyone else supports Donald Trump is neither here nor there to me. You can support the flying spaghetti monster for all I care. You wrote that you are a man in your most recent comment, yet you wrote that you were a 17 year old girl living in the Caribbean in your previous comment, so which is it? Do you have multiple personality disorder? The fact that you felt the need to mention that you have a “successful life” or “business” on a blog you abhor to people you deem to be “disgusting morons” and “bitches” suggests that you are again trying too hard to project a certain image (like you tried when you pretended to be a teenager) which indicates that you are neither successful in life nor in business.
“10 generations of your incest, bred mongrels”
That statement suggests that you have about as much class as a turd in a punch-bowl.
“Also, I am European. Not a mixed mutt, who has to create an account to make a point no one even cares about. You probably live in trailers”
So you now stating that you are European, yet you stated that you were Caribbean in a previous comment? No-one referred to you as a “mixed mutt”, so I don’t know why you are mentioning that, unless you are suggesting that I, or anything else on this blog that supports Kirsten are “mixed mutts”? What is a “mixed mutt”? Is it a derogatory slur to refer to someone with mixed heritage? I don’t “live in a trailer”. I’m not American, so trailers are not a widely used form of accommodation where I am from. However, it’s quite puerile and classless of you to attempt to demean and assert superiority over others that do live in a trailer.
“I came to this site by chance because was interested in the subject, but you are big losers with severe anger issues”
What comments suggest that we have “severe anger issues”? Elucidate your point rather than engaging in petty name calling. It is of no consequence to me that you – a stranger on the internet- thinks that I’m a loser. Are you really in a position to refer to someone else as a “loser” when you pretended to be teenage girl form the Caribbean in one comment and a man of European heritage in the other?
“Anonymous”
Continued…..
“You have the nerve to call Bernadette angry, crazy, etc...other names, but its sad none of you read your own posts”
Bernadette was mentally unhinged to lure Kirsten out of her house under the pretence of attending a non-existent dinner, so she could get Kirsten alone in a car park to “get to know her”. I don’t think “angry” is a sufficient word to describe Bernadette’s behavior. Bernadette was filled with a depraved, rabid animal- like murderous rage to inflict Kirsten with two two foot wounds down her stomach, a stab wound to Kirsten’s neck that hit a major artery, two stab wounds to Kirsten’s back when she was cowardly attacked from behind and a stab wound to Kirsten’s arm. Again, specify the post you are talking about rather than engaging in childish name calling.
“Heard the expression same shit, different toilet”
No, I’ve never heard of that expression. Have you heard of the expression “one flew over the cuckoo’s nest”? Or “away with the fairies”?
“ I now bless you, in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost, may you all rot in hell”
You are in no position to come on this blog and judge anyone else when you self-righteously bless people in one breath and petulantly condemn them to hell in another because they disagree with you. You pseudo Christians make about as much sense as a person sticking their finger in an electrical socket to charge their brain.
“Miserable people. Also, kiss my German arse”!
I’m not miserable. Your bilious tirade of insipid drivel suggests you are the one that is “miserable” to be triggered by my recent innocuous comments. Arse? You are again trying too hard by using British/Irish slang to portray yourself as someone you’re not.
"German"? Well, you can be whatever you want to be in your head, so sure.... you are German....or Caribbean.....or a man....or a teenage girl.....or a 6 foot tall Martian with wings.....we can all be what we want to be in our minds.
“Trump has more reason, and sanity then all of you put together”
I don’t know why you are bringing up Trump, but I am amused by your tangents.
“Also, try comparing your poor education with my European one!”
I live in Europe and was educated in Europe, so what exactly are you comparing? Please tell me the name of the illustrious educational institute where you received your highly esteemed European education?
“Just shut up losers! A PMS fest, but in your cases I would say Menopause!”
Shut what up? We are not talking, or did you mean we should shut our fingers up? How does one go about shutting up their fingers? Menopause? No, that doesn’t apply to me and for those that may have gone through menopause, so what and what does that have to do with sharing opinions on a small blog? Your insults are on par with and have about as much substance as a child’s insults.
Purple Haze- this person is a woman that lives in the USA. The Trump remark gave it away. Why would someone support a person from another country. Isn't this the same person who claimed their friend's father worked the case?
Hi Kamham,
Yeah, the person is definitely an American. No, this is a different person from person from the troll that pretended her father worked with Bernadette.
" However, I do enjoy an occasional peanut butter and jelly sandwich"
Lol. Don't we all :) it is called peanut butter and jam over here.
I'm going to post the second comment by Anonymous that is oddly missing.
The second comment by "Anonymous":
"Also, I speak 6 different languages, and do my best with your "ghetto" English. So, do not try and give me the spelling garbage. You barely can speak proper English yourselves, and at least, I try to use that version that is true. So, your spelling, and speech is worse then mine! I also am the same man who posted previously anonymously, but under my TRUE name which none of you have the gutts to even do when talking shit!Take your Valiums, and mental medication, and quit your rants! I laugh at the stupidity of your posts. Good luck by the way trying to convince yourselves I am Bernadette. Every time you seem to find someone who defends her they happen to be accused of being bernadette. Most people do support her, and this thread must be a person who was Kirstens friend who is an utter loser, who eats, drinks, sleeps in front of the computer because "she" made nothing of herself. Probably eats peanut butter, and jelly sandwiches, and is the typical 300lbs American woman with some nasty, stupid, tattoo. You must have no life to invade someone else's. At least if you want to invade someones life, do a celebrity so at least your a paid loser, instead of the typical fat, divorced, addicted to 30 medications, ideal American waist of life! Get real darling! You seem like you have some major issues, and are angry yourself. Once a bully, always a bully! Now your just a fat one! Get a real job "free willy!!!"
By the way- my maternal grandmother was 100 % German. In fact my great grandparents came to the US from Bavaria , Germany. I live in a very nice house. The job I have exposes me to families that live in trailers, apartments, hotels and a few in cars. Most are proud families who have had some bad luck. They are doing the best that they can. So, that comment is uncalled for. I have met families who cram many people in a trailer that looks like it will fall down if a big wind comes up. Others would be thrilled to live in that run down trailer. Shame on you!
Purple Haze- thanks for doing that. I am on an iPad. I am not sure how to copy and paste on this thing. I was going to get on my laptop later. A peanut butter and jelly sandwich sounds great!
Reply to “Anonymous” second comment
“Also, I speak 6 different languages, and do my best with your "ghetto" English”
I don’t know why you feel the need to mention that you speak 6 languages. Again, It looks like you are trying too hard to project a certain image in order to impress people, which again suggests the opposite (i.e. - you don’t speak 6 languages)
“Ghetto English”? Give an example of someone using “ghetto English”?
“ You barely can speak proper English yourselves, and at least, I try to use that version that is true”
What are you talking (writing) about? Give examples instead of making silly broad statements without evidence. What version is the true version? English (UK) is suggested to be the “true version, yet you are using English (US).
“So, your spelling, and speech is worse then mine!”
Everyone is prone to spelling errors, so, no, my spelling isn’t always perfect. I don’t know whether or not it’s worse than yours and really couldn’t care less if it is.
“I also am the same man who posted previously anonymously, but under my TRUE name which none of you have the gutts to even do when talking shit!”
Yes...you are a ”man”. I KNOW you are the same deluded fantasist in the previous anonymous comments. I’ve mentioned my real name a couple of times on this blog. I suppose if this blog vehemently criticised Kirsten, you wouldn’t write that we were “talking shit”. You would no doubt agree and delight in joining in on condemning and vilifying a murdered teenage girl.
"Take your Valiums, and mental medication, and quit your rants!I laugh at the stupidity of your posts"
Are you that oblivious and deluded as to how you depicted yourself in your comments? If anyone here is in need of “mental medication”, it is a person who pretends to be a teenage girl in one post and pretends to be a European man in the other. It is a person who goes to a blog out of her own volition to engage in childish name calling because others want to support a murder victim. It is a person who tells people she wants them to rot in hell because they have a difference in opinions. It is a person who engages in excessive lying and exaggerates her achievements in a futile attempt to assert superiority over those who disagree with her, which suggests that the person is utterly miserable with who they really are if they feel the need to continuously lie about themselves. It is a person who attempts to demean people by calling them ignorant American pejoratives because they have the audacity to be appalled at a perpetrator who committed a brutal murder. It is a person who continues to come back to a blog that she hates in an attempt to spread hate. It is a person who on another section of the blog (Dec 2014) wrote that Kirsten deserved what happened to her and blames Kirsten’s parents for her death (yeah, I know it was you that wrote those comments and have explained in the following paragraph how I know). It is a person that flies into hate filled tirades pervading with bitterness and spite over an innocuous reply to her comment where she pretended to be a 17 year old girl.
“ Good luck by the way trying to convince yourselves I am Bernadette”
I don’t need to convince myself of anything. I know you are not Bernadette and I didn’t mention that you were Bernadette, so why are you bringing this up? I showed your post to someone else and she showed me some comments from a mentally unhinged individual that was supporting Bernadette on Kirsten FB pages. The individual’s comments have the same inane insults and verbiage as your comments here and comments under Dec 2014.
“Every time you seem to find someone who defends her they happen to be accused of being Bernadette”
No, we don’t. I know who you are, “JR”.
“ Most people do support her”
Who are most people? Do you speak for most people? I’ve seen quite a lot of support for Kirsten, so what is the point of your comment?
Continued…….
“this thread must be a person who was Kirstens friend who is an utter loser”
This thread wasn’t started by someone who knew Kirsten. It is out of the realm of possibility in your mind that people not connected to this case empathizes with the horrific way in which Kirsten’s life was taken away? No, of course not, so stop behaving so childishly.
“who eats, drinks, sleeps in front of the computer because "she" made nothing of herself”
Are you suggesting that those that support Kirsten do the above? That is an amusingly juvenile assertion. I’m not any of the above, but I can’t prove it as we are strangers interacting through a computer screen. Are you aware that pretending to be different people, pretending to speak 6 different languages, pretending to have been educated in Europe, pretending to have a successful business….suggests that you are exaggerating or flat out lying about your accomplishments because you must think you have “made nothing of yourself”? You wouldn’t continuously engage in compulsive lying if you felt self-assured about your life.
“ Probably eats peanut butter, and jelly sandwiches, and is the typical 300lbs American woman with some nasty, stupid, tattoo”
I am partial to a peanut butter and jelly sandwich every now and then. I’m not 300ibs, but I can’t prove that as we are strangers on the internet. I’m also not American. I thought it was clear to other people that I wasn’t an American due to the slang words I sometimes use. You are American, so why are you insulting Americans? I have no problem with Americans.
“You must have no life to invade someone else's”
Writing comments on a small blog isn’t “invading someone’s life”. Get a grip.
“At least if you want to invade someones life do a celebrity so at least your a paid loser”
Are you attempting to dictate where and what people should write? Your self-righteousness is quite something to behold. Get over yourself.
“,! Get real darling! You seem like you have some major issues, and are angry yourself. Once a bully, always a bully! Now your just a fat one! Get a real job "free willy!!!"
I’m not your “darling”. It is you that needs to “get real”, but your comments portray you as being so far gone from reality that I’m sure you don’t know what “real” is.
“You seem like you have some major issues”
Mmmm, unlike you who portrays yourself to be a European man in one comment, a teenager from the Caribbean in another, who defends Bernadette by insinuating that Kirsten was killed because she wasn’t kind “one must give kindness to get kindness”, by perpetuating the lie that Kirsten was a bully by shamelessly pretending to be a bullied teenage girl in an attempt to evoke sympathy. You have the unabashed gall to suggest that we have “issues” when you defend Bernadette who lured Kirsten out of her house under the pretence of attending a non-existent dinner, so she could get Kirsten alone in a car park to “get to know her”, and she then stabbed her when she didn’t get the reaction she wanted. “Issues” indeed.
I’m not angry, nor do my comments suggest that I’m angry.
“Once a bully, always a bully! Now your just a fat one! Get a real job "free willy!!!"
Well, actually, it is you who is the bully here by referring to strangers on the internet as fat, a bitch, moronic, disgusting, 300ibs, a loser, someone who lives in a trailer, suggesting that a person “ eats, drinks, sleeps in front of the computer” because they support a murder victim, menopausal, pms rants, takes medication, has “nasty tattoos”…..etc. Your inability to grasp the fact that you have portrayed yourself as the very things that you accused us of is amusingly perplexing.
I have a job. Why would writing on this blog suggest that a person doesn’t have a job?
I have no “willy to free” and if you do (you could be a hermaphrodite for all I know) I suggest you keep it in your pants.
Hi Kmaham,
No problem. Yes a peanut butter and jelly sandwich does sound good, especially a toasted one. MMmmmmm
Good job Purple Haze! You may have driven the demon out of here.
Thanks kmaham.
I'm not so sure she won't be back, though.
Regarding my last comment to the troll, I just wanted to clarify something. When I wrote: "Your inability to grasp the fact that you have portrayed yourself as the very things that you accused us of is amusingly perplexing..... I meant to write "thing" and not "things". I was referring to her being a bully, not that I thought she was 300ibs, on medication....etc. Maybe that's obvious, but I just wanted to clarify anyway.
Purple Haze- He/ she will come back. Can't wait to see what it comes back as. It should be interesting.
Hi kmaham,
Perhaps her next incarnation on this blog will be a sophisticated debonair British gentleman who was educated at St Andrews University, has a thriving business in London’s Oxford Street, and enjoys a round of golf on a Sunday afternoon followed by a few pints of fine English ale at his local pub. Or perhaps She will be a suave Spanish “ladies man” who beguiles admirers with his effervescent charm, who has abs of steel and big imposing bulging brown muscles that glisten in the sun. Or perhaps she will claim to be Jesus himself.
It is so cowardly of her to write a few negative comments and then slink away. To quote a clichéd phrase: she can dish it out but can’t take it.
Purple Haze- what would be even scarier if they portrayed a sane person! I like your ideas much better. Could be a little less harmful. I wish I could pull off pretending to be other people. I am not that creative. All I know is me!
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Hi Kmaham,
You're right. My examples were too normal. I should have written something like: perhaps she will be a sophisticated British gentlemen who has a thriving business as a private investigator, who is a world champion log thrower, who captured the loch ness monster when vacationing in Scotland and rode on the back of the loch ness monster from Scotland to Iceland. Or perhaps she will be an American woman who is an astronaut, a champion in worm charming and who swims with great white sharks. Or perhaps she will be a Jamaican woman called Peg who is the reincarnation of Elvis Presley and has the seductive pelvis dance moves that Elvis was renowned for captivating millions with. She is known locally as “Peg the Pelvis” and can also juggle chainsaws and bowling balls whilst enthralling crowds with her sexy hip swivelling pelvis dance moves. Or perhaps she will be God, yes.....God.
I know she reads this website. If she writes another comment pretending to be someone else, I'm sure it will be amusing... but for the wrong reasons. If you are going to pretend to be someone else, you might as well make it entertaining.
Peg is my favorite. When I got to Peg! I was dying laughing . Where do you get this stuff? You are hilarious!
Thanks Kmaham.
I don't know. I have goofy sense of humour I guess :-)
You do a goofy sense of humor. I like people who make me laugh.
It's tragic that a young woman lost her life but in the movie at least she is portrayed as a snob and relentless bully. I have been there! I think in real life she seemed v v unlikeable and cruel. The school are to blame to for the peer pressure they put on these kids, many of whom believed they could never match up to the Stacey Lockwoods of this world. Although I don't condone murder, I am maybe one of the few who can sympathise with Bernadette.
You are not the only one, but you should know that anyone who expresses sympathy for Bernadette in this forum is usually accused of being Bernadette herself or a family member. There is not a lot of tolerance for diverse viewpoints. Consider yourself warned.
Hi Kmaham,
" I like people who make me laugh"
I do too. At least "Martin's" comments ended up giving us a good laugh, rather than "his" explicit intent to provoke a negative reaction.
Sarah,
"in the movie at least she is portrayed as a snob and relentless bully"
The operative word in your sentence being *movie*. The *movie* was a fictional depiction of both Kirsten and Bernadette.
"I think in real life she seemed v v unlikeable and cruel"
Did you come to that conclusion because of the movie? Suggesting that Kirsten was unlikable and cruel due to what you have seen in a movie is lazy and suggests that you have difficulty distinguishing fact from fiction.
"The school are to blame to for the peer pressure they put on these kids"
Miramonte is not to blame for Bernadette's behaviour. Bernadette was dangerously sick and the principal, teachers, pupils.... etc are not responsible for what happened. Only Bernadette is responsible for what happened.
"many of whom believed they could never match up to the Stacey Lockwoods of this world"
I feel sympathy for teenagers that have self-esteem issues. However, it is not the fault of the "Stacy Lockwood's of this world" if you feel less worthy, valuable or less important. You are the only one that is responsible for your own self worth and if you have self-esteem issues, you must take responsibility for your own life and do something about it. Blaming others for how you feel about yourself is futile and counterproductive.
"Although I don't condone murder, I am maybe one of the few who can sympathise with Bernadette"
I don't care if you support Bernadette or not, but I find it irritating that you lazily referred to a fictional portrayal as fact when describing Kirsten's real life personality and character.
Anonymous,
"Warning" someone about posting on this blog is amusingly dramatic. I haven't accused anyone of being Bernadette or a family member in quite a while and when I did it was not without due cause. If I notice that a comment has familiar verbiage, a strong personal investment in defending Bernadette's murderous actions, and comments imbued with spite and an irrational hate towards strangers that support Kirsten.....then yes, it will cross my mind that this may be someone close to Bernadette.
"There is not a lot of tolerance for diverse viewpoints"
Can you give an example? Have you recently expressed support for Bernadette and were you lambasted for doing so? What I don't have tolerance for is for people who childishly insult me for supporting Kristen and state that Kirsten was to blame for her murder because she didn't react positively to Bernadette luring her out of her house to a fake dinner in order to get her alone in a car-park. I have generally been quite tolerant on this blog and if you disagree, please give an example.
I don't think that she got anywhere near enough time! How dare she say "don't keep bringing up peoples mistakes". It wasn't like she stepped on the girls toe, she murdered her in cold blood. I hope that one day this animal can feel as much pain as she made Christians family feel. May she one day burn in hell! Her sister didn't murder Christian but I believe that she has blood on her hands as well due to the fact that she went to court and lied about the knife. Although it wasn't proven I don't believe her explanation for the knife and she is not a good person because she supported her sister by lying for her. I think supporting your family is a good thing but when you support them being a cold blooded murderer I just can justify that. In my opinion the only thing lower than a murderer is a child molester.
I also believe in supporting your family on certain things, however, murder is not one. I would never lie for a family member. EVER!
People are allowed to disagree. With that being said, people are passionate about what they believe. Some people can argue their point in a mature way. Some stoop to name calling, etc.
Purple Haze- We did get a good laugh!
Anonymous,
I suppose you have no examples of me being intolerant of your viewpoints? I knew you wouldn't write back. You are as predictable as the smell of weed wafting through the air at Venice Beach.
Unknown,
Who is Christian? Come on......you know very well her name is Kirsten. I suppose Bernadette referring to Kirsten's murder as a "mistake" is an attempt to diminish it's seriousness. The knife explanation is illogical and preposterous and I'm surprised the sister could tell that absurd lie on the stand with a straight face.
It's very easy to say that you wouldn't lie for a family member if they committed a horrific murder, but if they inflicted egregious damage to their victim like the sickening stab wounds Kirsten sustained to her neck and body, I know I wouldn't want anything to do with them again. Yes, murderers and child molesters are a scourge upon the world.
Hi ~Kmaham,
I agree. I don't care if people disagree with my opinion of Bernadette. If my harmless comments can rile people into a foaming mouthed frenzy because I – a stranger - disagree with them, I find that highly amusing
Purple Haze- You have the right to give your opinion. If people are riled, so be it. It is interesting to disagree on things. If we all agreed , it would be a boring world. Personally, I like being amused!!!
Hi Kmaham,
I agree. The irrational hate that some Bernadette supporters (I'm not referring to "Anonymous" or "Sara") have for strangers on the internet is both weird and amusing.
If people disagree with points on this blog, it would be great if they explained why rather than criticising Kirsten or people that support her. Every now and then some one writes an incendiary comment and when they get a reply from someone on the blog, they usually just f*** off like a coward.
There is no reason for them to hate. We didn't pull an 18 inch knife out and murder Kirsten.
Hi Kmaham,
Exactly. I find it confounding that they could support someone who committed a brutal heinous murder, but I don't wet my knickers over it and hurl insults at them. Anyway, their rage filled rants are amusing.
Let's say the knife WAS left in the car by her sister. When Bernadette picked it up, she knew she was going to use it. She knew she was going to kill her. To me, that is premeditation. She knew it was in the car. She didn't just see it in the dark car. It was wedged between the seats.
Hi Kmaham,
"she knew she was going to use it. She knew she was going to kill her"
Exactly.It looks like premeditation. She also stalked Kirsten all the way to her front door.
I think Bernadette was going to kill Kirsten if she didn't get the positive reaction she was desperately anticipating. However, she knew it could backfire which is why she had a "plan b", or rather, "plan k" (k for kill).
Again, wedging the knife between the seats looks like it was premeditated. Visualising a big ass knife wedged between seats is so, so weird. I wonder if Kirsten noticed it. I thought maybe that might have been a reason why she ran from Bernadette's car, but if that was the case, surely Kirsten would have been more fearful and would have told the guy who drove her home. She seems to have unfortunately viewed Bernadette as harmless.
Purple Haze- unless, Kirsten thought she was safe in that man's car and just wanted to get home. You never know with teenagers. What is the width of a car seat? I would think some portion of it would have been sticking out. It was a small car. She may have seen it, not mentioned it but fled because of it being there and the way Bernadette was acting. I don't think Bernadette could get a knife that size wedged between seats while driving. I tried to envision it using her left hand and her right. Either one would have been awkward and Kirsten would have had the upper hand. My opinion as usual.
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Hi Kmaham,
It's possible it was sticking out. How could she "jam" the large knife between the front car seats? There is a large gap between the front car seats, so it would be impossible to keep any object between them. Maybe the knife was jammed in the backseats. Kirsten wouldn't have noticed the knife sticking out between the back seats of a poorly lit car in the dark. Hiding the knife between the backseats of the car strongly implies premeditation. In the unlikely event that the sister left a 15-18 inch carving knife in the car to cut vegetables, it is even more ridiculous to state that it was stored between the back car seats.
We will never know what prompted Kirsten to flee from Bernadette's car, but I'm she was pissed off to discover that she was lured out of her house under false pretences and when Bernadette futilely attempted to explain her bizarre actions, I imagine Bernadette was wild eyed and rambling incoherently with a disconnected look on her face, which understandably would have scared Kirsten.
" I don't think Bernadette could get a knife that size wedged between seats while driving. Either one would have been awkward and Kirsten would have had the upper hand "
I agree. it doesn't make sense
"Kirsten thought she was safe in that man's car and just wanted to get home"
It was stated that Kirsten was banging her fists on her neighbor's door which suggests she was frightened and alarmed and desperate for the neighbor to answer the door. I wonder what Bernadette said to Kirsten to frighten her so much before she went to the car to get the carving knife.
For Kirsten to be scared and desperately banging on her neighbour's door, Bernadette would have said a lot more than "I'm not weird" and "I would have driven you home".
Purple Haze- A person who jumps out of the car, runs to a door and starts banging is scared to death. A person who is irritated does not run to the door of a stranger and start beating on the door. I just feel like Kirsten was a confident teenager. I would bet she saw the handle of the knife. Something major was said in that car to upset Kirsten. Sadly, we will never know.
Hi Kmaham,
Yes, they are. Kirsten was banging her fists on her neighbour's door. It's also quite possible she was also banging her fists on the stranger's door.
I was just wondering what made Kirsten so frightened at her neighbour's door when she was reported to be generally unfazed in the stranger's car. Even when Bernadette was obnoxiously tailgating the stranger's car, Kirsten was reported to be unconcerned. Banging fists on the door obviously suggests that Kirsten was desperate to get away from Bernadette. Maybe she sensed imminent danger. Bernadette was in an exaggerated panic because she was afraid Kirsten would tell others she was strange, which she was. It was very strange of Bernadette to plan to get Kirsten out of her house under false pretences to an empty car-park alone to "get to know her". Bernadette was unhinged, so I can imagine her running up to Kirsten wild eyed, dishevelled, and red faced with spittle at the corner of her mouth, spouting hysterical nonsensical gibberish as Kirsten. desperately bangs on her neighbour's door. I can understand why Kirsten was frightened. It's also possible she saw the handle of the knife, but it doesn't make sense that it was "jammed" between the front seats. A more likely scenario is that it was "jammed" in the back seats of the car.
My grammar is off, but I'm sure you understand my above comment.
I will never believe the real story was told. Maybe the reason Kirsten was unconcerned in the stranger's car was because she felt safe. She probably had no idea that Bernadette would do something with a witness. I loved the way you described Bernadette.
Hi Kmaham,
No. Bernadette's story is full of holes, so it can never be 100% believed.
"She probably had no idea that Bernadette would do something with a witness"
I suppose so. I have wondered (like you) why the guy didn't walk Kirsten to the door. I got the impression that he felt perturbed by Bernadette's obnoxious tailgating, so he would have been aware that there was something off about Bernadette. Bernadette knew that a witness was close by and she still brutally stabbed Kirsten to death, which makes me wonder would she have attacked the guy if he had walked Kirsten to her door. She was clearly insane, so maybe she would have stabbed both Kirsten and the guy that drove Kirsten home. They both would have been able to over power her though, but I'm sure Bernadette would have certainly tried to inflict as much damage as possible. After all, she was insane.
"I loved the way you described Bernadette"
Thanks. That's honestly how I picture her that night.
Bernadette was just scared Kirsten was going to out her at school for being a freak, in which she is, and tarnish her reputation forever which happened anyhow. She should of just left Kirsten alone. May of been a gay thing with Bernie.
Bernadette should have been able to forsee that her plan to get Kirsten out of her house by lying to her about a bobbies dinner wouldn't be received well. Most people would have been pissed off by that. Kirsten was so perturbed by Bernadette's attempt "to get to know her" that she fled to a strangers house.
Yes, her name will always be associated with her heinous murder of Kirsten.
Yes, she should have left Kirsten alone. Kristen's murder is still such a sad case because it was preventable. The poor girl shouldn't have been butchered to death because she understandably didn't appreciate being lied to about a non existent sorority dinner so someone she barely knew could drive her alone to an empty car-park to "get to know her".
I don't think it was a gay thing, but can see why people would think so. It was stated by a friend that Bernadette "idolized" Kirsten, so I can understand why Bernadette's platonic infatuation with Kirsten may have been viewed as something sexual by Kirsten.
My point above is that Bernadette's infatuation with Kirsten, even if it was apparently platonic, appears to have come across so strongly that it is understandable why Kirsten may have thought Bernadette was a lesbian.
this needs to stop.. its been what nearly 33 years since a lovely young girl lost her life. yes it was horrible and unforgivable and it shouldnt and didnt need to happen. yes she should be with us all today, but shes not. im sure Kristen would appreciate all of this. and yes i do believe Brenadette/jeanette has served the time she deserved. but all this it wont bring Kristen back. slating her wont bring kristen back... no matter how much time she would of served for what she did, whether it was 7 years 15 years or even 30 years it doesnt change what happened to kristen it wont bring her back. i dont condone what bernadette did. i think its awful but this isnt the way to keep Kristen's memory alive. she would of been what 48 now and some of us werent here to know her but. i know this isnt what kristen would want bernadette payed the price of taking her life and thats what kristen would of wanted.
my comment is the above one i was mesnt to put kirsten not kristen
"this needs to stop.. its been what nearly 33 years since a lovely young girl lost her life"
What needs to stop is your repetitive insipid drivel under different pseudonyms impudently dictating what people should and shouldn't write. As I've written to you countless times, this is a blog that discusses the case and supports Kirsten, the victim. Why discuss this crime after 30+ years? It was a very poorly conducted investigation that have has left a lot of questions unanswered. People discuss this case in an attempt to try and make sense of such a senseless, savage and tragic crime. The questions this case raises: How did Bernadette get away with it for as long as she did considering the very clear description of the murderer? Why was Bernadette's alibi not checked out? What induced Bernadette’s murderous rage? Did she exhibit signs of being dangerous and unhinged before the murder? Can analyzing this crime help people to detect dangerous signs in others? Can a person who commits such a savage and monstrous crime ever be truly rehabilitated?...amongst many other questions. Kirsten is still being vilified 30+ years after her death due to the scathingly critical one-sided movie "Death of a cheerleader" that was based on the unfairly biased one-sided Rolling Stone article. Some people still continue to perpetuate lies about Kirsten due to the movie and revel in tearing her to pieces and rejoicing over her horrific death in comments sections. What is your issue with people taking a stance against that and supporting Kirsten?
"yes she should be with us all today"
With "us"? She wouldn't be with "us". She would most likely have a family of her own and would be with them, not "us".
"im sure Kristen would appreciate all of this"
Please don't speculate over what Kirsten would or wouldn't appreciate.
"i do believe Brenadette/jeanette has served the time she deserved."
I don't agree. A measly seven years in a juvenile institution which allowed her to finish high school and get a college education can hardly be considered an adequate punishment for the brutal murder of Kirsten. Bernadette's record was sealed, she could change her name and then live her life in anonymity like nothing happened. So how can you reconcile that such a ridiculously short sentence and the ability to go on with life like nothing happened is a sufficient sentence for stalking Kirsten to her house and viciously attacking Kirsten from behind in an unprovoked attack, inflicting her with wounds two feet long that lacerated her lungs, inflicting her with stab wounds in the stomach when she was struggling on the ground and inflicting her with a wound in the neck that hit a major artery?
Continued......
"but all this it wont bring Kristen back. slating her wont bring kristen back"
That goes without saying and is really not necessary to mention.
"no matter how much time she would of served for what she did, whether it was 7 years 15 years or even 30 years it doesnt change what happened to kristen it wont bring her back"
Unless a life sentence in jail literally means a life sentence, no amount of time served in jail is adequate for taking the life of another. However, If Bernadette got 30 years, I highly doubt people would be discussing her on this blog or elsewhere. Again, there really is no need to need to state the obvious by writing "it won't bring Kirsten back".
"i think its awful but this isnt the way to keep Kristen's memory alive"
Kirsten's loved ones keep Kirsten's memory alive. This blog is to support Kirsten against those that continue to maliciously propagate lies in an attempt to tarnish her reputation.
"she would of been what 48 now and some of us werent here to know her but. i know this isnt what kristen would want bernadette payed the price of taking her life and thats what kristen would of
wanted.
You have admitted that you didn't know Kirsten, so who are you to say what she would or wouldn't have wanted? D you - a stranger - seriously think that you are in a position to do so? Your self righteousness and delusion are quite something to behold. Apart from you, no-one on this blog has had the gall to self-righteously speculate over what Kirsten would or wouldn't have wanted and it's highly insolent, sanctimonious and disrespectful of you to attempt to do so.
"i was mesnt to put kirsten not kristen"
That really changes your insufferable comment.
I think Kirsten and her family would love knowing people still care about her.
I agree, Bernadette never served what she deserved for murdering Kirsten. Bernadette gets the privilege, essentially a gift, of changing her name/identity which is a common practice among youth murderers once they are released back into society. That should also be outlawed since one should have to "own" the crime of murder FOR LIFE.
http://bernadetteprottifound.blogspot.ca/2008/07/bernadette-protti-has-new-identity.html
Hi Michelle,
I agree that such a horrific, monstrous murder should follow Bernadette for the rest of her life.
I have read the blog that you have cited. Some of the comments are very personally invested and have a similar vernacular, hmm.
You sound way to obessed with this!! Leave it alone before your children fall victim to a BULLY that you so seem to inflict proudly. That girl was hateful and used her BULLY days to make some peoples lives miserable!! Die did not deserve to die, but everyone was afaird of her spiteful ways. Hateful bitch deserved a beat down but not to be killed. Leave the other one alone. Let the 80s stay Where they are.
How do you know Kirsten was a bully? Did you know her personally? Even if so, she didn't deserve to die. If Bernadette wanted to be left alone now, she should of thought about all that before she did what she did. People do t forget stuff like murder, it will,follow her the rest of her life, like it did Charles Manson who recently died.
Kirsten didn't bully Bernadette. It's sickening you are lying about a dead child. Get help!
Charles Manson died? News to me.
I'm surprised you didn't know considering you are obsessed with weirdos.
It has nothing to do with this site but for what its worth charles manson is still very much alive
Shame.
This is so eighties, levee it go. They all moved on, you should to.
Can't you think of anything more original to write than that, Steph? You have written the above bilge countless times on this blog. Shouldn't you move on and find something better to do with your time instead of your constant eye-rolling trolling? Shoo.
Nicely conveyed.
A mistake is a mistake a sin USA sin if God has forgiveness than that's all that matters people love to point out everybody else flaws and mistakes I think this blog is more about trying to hurt her than keep the victim memory alive because you can keep her memory alive with out continuing to bring up the predator Name pic and rip and fly high and your memory still live on is enough with out continuing to bring up the predator name
You are correct, Lesley. Ninety percent of this blog is devoted to Jeannette-bashing. There are a couple of thoughtful tribute posts to Kirsten, but those are rare.
Hi Anonymous,
Whether this blog is a laughing stock or not makes no difference to me. The constant trolling by one particular individual under different pseudonyms is certainly ridiculous, but I know you're not just referring to that. Perhaps you think it's a laughing stock because it sympathises with Kirsten who was brutally murdered because of the perpetrator's inferiority complex. Other blogs that discuss this case were poorly researched and relied heavily on a biased one sided movie. If you disagree and can recommend a decent blog, I would like to hear your thoughts.
You have commented here for a couple of years now. Why do you continue to come back to a blog that you deem to be beneath you? I don't agree with comments discussing Bernadette's husband or sexuality as they are irrelevant.
As you can't seem to stay away from a blog you apparently loathe, do you want to discuss the case and express why you sympathise with Bernadette? Wouldn't that be more productive than coming here just to call names?
I am open for a civil discussion. I won't accuse you of being Bernadette, her family member or someone close to her.
Hope my english is understandable :)
With all due respect people:
Whether Kirsten was a bully or not, (I have seen the ID show The 80's the deadliest decade) where they interviewed some former Miramonte students who didn't actually sympathize with her. I've got to say something, personally I do believe not everyone is perfect that's for sure and Kirsten was a human being (nevertheless here it doesn't matter that) 'cause yesss maybe she could've been mean or hateful or condescending, that doesn't mean she was a bad girl anyway, she was trying to impress other students because that's what 80's were, your personality doesn't matter if you got luxurious clothes, a nice hairdo and hunk boyfriends.
(fortunately I did not live in those ages) As it is said here, people change from high school to adulthood, she didn't get that chance and so is worthless to talk now about her behaviour or whether she was mean or no, maybe she would be now a productive member of our society and a great person (maybe a wonderful mother to children, with a job, a nice house, a nice husband, dogs, cats maybe a hamster) who knows?, and again she was taken away the chance to grow-up by a spoiled brat who was so obsessed with silly things like I mentioned before. Besides, Bernadette could also have become a wonderful person had she thought well about what she was going to do, if she had "rethought" -well, I think Kirsten will change and I also have a good life until now, I will try my heart to study more and become a nice girl-... maybe now Bernadette (NOT ONLY WOULD USE HER REAL NAME) but she also would have had a peaceful life (going out with Kirsten talking about their jobs or children or husbands) she also lost that chance.
Secondly Bringing up Bernadette's new identity isn't the best thing to do, I agree she should've served more years, but in the end Kirsten's family moved on, always thinking on her daughter of course, never forgetting her but forgetting the killer. she now has blood on her hands, nothing will be the same anymore for her (even when she tries so hard to run away from her past posting those nonsenses, the truth will finally catch up with her ). Yes I hope she has nightmares for the rest of her life but since the people involved in this case moved on we should do the same and leave Jeannette live and die as she was.
I agree with some of your comments. Kirsten is still being vilified after all of this time mainly due to the movie, so it's understandable people are going to read and still talk about this. Jeannette/Bernadette is being painted as a victim which I don't think is right. Her identity was available on the Internet before this blog was created. I liked your comment, though.
I've been researching this case recently after seeing the Deadly Decades episode and I must say, I commend the owner of this blog for exposing Jeannette/Bernadette and helping keep Kirsten's memory alive. I was bullied as a kid from elementary to high school to the point where I dropped out and did home schooling. Nothing I've read indicates that Kirsten bullied Bernie. If I'm so scared of a person, why would I lie and lure them to being alone with me and desperately try to befriend them when school is out and I don't have to be around them 5 days a week? I never considered the lesbian/crush angle but I can believe it. Desperately wanting Kirsten to be her friend just doesn't make sense. Something else was at play here- Bernie desperately need Kisten's validation like a lovesick puppy. It's a damn shame that it took 6 months for her to turn herself in. Seeing her pics now and knowing she is trying to live a happy life with no regard to the life she stole sickens me. I hope that she gets her long awaited karma. Kirsten seemed like a very ambitious girl with a bright future ahead of her. She would've been 16 a month after her tragic, cold blooded murder (on her own porch no less). I can't imagine the pain her parents and friends feel wondering what could've been. Jeannette is a cold blooded psycho. I've never seen the movie but from what I read, it's worth skipping. RIP Kirsten!
Bee, it's a crazy case. Was Jeannette a lesbian? God knows. Her obsession could be interpreted that way, I suppose. Maybe that is what Kirsten thought and why she ran away from the car. Sorry you were bullied. I hope life is better for you now.
I have one question... For Orinda residents since I don't live there...
Has anything changed? Is the status still as important as it was in the 80's? Are there still girls who are willing to do anything for being in popular groups?
30 years have passed, I hope people mainly youths have made a "click" by now
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Another one if Kirsten and Bernadette's case took place nowadays it's clearly possible that Kirsten would have had instagram and Bernadette would stalk her not only there but also on twitter, facebook, snapchat...I can imagine Kirsten would be the kind of girl who'd get on everyone's nerve boasting of her photos. She probably would have had more friends as more enemies... (it's highly possible that she would've been feminist too lmao)
Instagram is generally for teenagers and young adults. Kirsten would have be 49 if she wasn't killed by Jeannette/Bernadette and would probably be more focused on her family and her life than posting stupid pictures. Orinda is still a middle class/upper middle class community. Some adults never grow out of cliques, no matter what type of area or background they are from. Kirsten's murder was about an obsessed unhinged teenager, not cliques. I don't know what to say about your Kirsten would be a feminist comment. It's a little silly, tbh.
The sentence did not fit the crime; if you rob the local grocery store, and no one is even hurt; you get 7 years; the sentence was a joke! Also, if everyone who was bullied, disrespected, lied to, robbed; or anything else, killed as a result; half the population would be dead!! Sure, everyone may in the heat of the moment, a person may wish someone dead; it takes a special kind of "human being" to actually go forward and act on it. She was not a 7 year old child who acted without forethought, she has evil in her to be able to do what she did. She should be in jail as long as her victim is dead; cannot understand the logic of the sentence. The sentence did not fit the crime. Stop excusing the behaviour and making pathetic excuses for murder. I do not know how the victims family can go forward and live their lives knowing this monster is living the life their daughter will never have. Shame on the justice system and everyone who thinks their was any justice at all for this poor girl and her family
Bernadette was never punished for the horrific murder she committed. Bernadette spent a mere few years in a juvenile facility and was given a free education, room and board. This is punishment?? It is more like Bernadette got rewarded,
Did Bernadette ever get a psychiatric evaluation? Counseling? How exactly was she punished other than not being able to come and go as she pleased?
Bernadette should have been transferred to an adult prison once she turned 18 and never released - don't ignore her behavior immediately following the murder and the fact that she could have gotten away with it had it none been for the FBI. You can not create a conscience or empathy in a person where none exits. Bernadette is and always will be a dangerous person... tick... tick... tick...
Definitely NOT!!!!!!! This crazy SCUMBAG should of never been let out of PRISON!!!!!!!!!!
I was wondering if 1) Bernadette read this blog 2) what inspired the blog owner to start this blog? Were they friends or related in some way?
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