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I hope you're well, Brittany.
I know I got sort of bitchy with you Brittany but I do think you are doing a good thing by having this blog. So people don't forget her and what happened to her.
From reading numerous articles on this case, it is clear that Bernadette was not some friendless, loner wallflower that was bullied and ostrasized by the popular clique. She was smart, she had friends who cared about her and she had friends from different circles, including those considered to be popular. Shame on Randall Sullivan for deliberately vilifying Kirsten and shame on those who continue to disparage, berate and condemn Kirsten and tarnish her reputation.
Bernadette had friends, she may have been teased a little, but she wasnt an outcast or obstrasized till she murdered. She was in the most important club_ the Bobbies. She had the Bobbies that liked her. So. Kirsten rejected her, Bernadette couldnt accept that. Her sisters were treated worse than she was in grammar school. They were the cootie monsters. Peoplle teased her sisters relentlessly. The fact she allowed 2 innocent girls to take the blame, was awful. What if they got sent to prison wrongly, I believe Bernadette wouldn't of batted an eye. Her sister's, mom and dad, upheld her in court" Mrs. Costas should of spit on. Bernadette as she slowly walked by her. Kirsten from what I read was a down to earth girl who got any guy she wanted, and, the guys didn't seem to notice Bernadette, and, the fact. Bernadette wasnt invited out socially, she had her best friend, and one child hood friend that was friends with in Kirstens group. Bernadette wanted it all and jealousy got ahold of her. No she wasn't an outcsst or someone who had no friends that other kids teased. Her sisters were as. I mentioned earlier. Shouldn't of affected Bernadette by any means. They didn' t do it to her. Her sisters were twisted and weirdo s also.
Maybe a former Miramonte student who actually knows the story, will come forth on here and tell all about it". There's students who knows that can tell us. Hey. Britt, get us more information on the case, interviews and all. Also tell us more about the 2 girls that were blamed. How it affected them then, and now'. We d like to know, Bernadette's friend one who supposedly defended her honor" did that really happen? Also I wonder if. Kirsten's real life friend, went up to Bernadette s friend and ball her out for being at the trial in support of. Bernadette". Alot of unanswered question's there. I read in the movie, the girl who played Jamie quit the Larks AKA Bobbies_ cause they were mean to Angela_Bernadete. I dont see how they were mean to her, after what she did. The movie and reality are 2 different subjects. Movie's dramatize the events, and, reality is what is really what went diwn. No one know's what really took place with the 2 girls that were blamed, at the trial, and all. The commuity owe's those 2 girls an apology. Bernadette I read that she told reporters at her trial, there's about 500 people who would love to shoot her". She knew how the community felt, she should, she deserved it. I hear they started to talk to that girl they used the name Heather more after the arrest. They should of apologized to her for the Hell they made her life. There was 2, they combined them into one. They should resent. Bernadette for life, she allowed the blame to rest on them. She only confessed cause the detectives were closing in on her. I went to school with a girl like Bernadette, There were 2 girls obstrasized and picked on, and this girl had friends a circle, she was insecure also, she didnt murder, but this beaitiful girl looked like Farrah Fawcett she burned her hair with a lighter she and a friend wore masks and got her that way. Her friend turned her in, she quit school cause after that, she had to many people hating her. They were out to get her other kids, plus, they today still want nothing to do wuth her. The 2 obstrasized, they made up with them finally accepted them. They weren't blamed just picked on relentlessly till that girl did what she did, she became a target for the whole school and town. Some forgave her, others still want no part of her this was in the early 80 's. Almost like Bernadette without murder, but cutting of hair. This girl left a long time never comes to her hometown. Bernadette's story put me in mind of her life.
I neabt burning of the hair, Sorry"".
Hi.
I don't know anything about Bernadette's sisters or how they were apparently treated.
"Mrs. Costas should of spit on. Bernadette as she slowly walked by her"
The fact that Mr and Mrs Costas didn't lash out at Bernadette when they would have been perfectly justified in doing so speaks volumes about the integrity and dignity of their character.
"Bernadette wasnt invited out socially, she had her best friend, and one child hood friend that was friends with in Kirstens group"
It is clear from different sources that Bernadette had plenty of friends and does appear to have been "invited out socially".
"Bernadette wanted it all and jealousy got ahold of her. No she wasn't an outcast or someone who had no friends that other kids teased"
I agree.
"Also tell us more about the 2 girls that were blamed. How it affected them then"
One of the girls said she had a problem with substance abuse for a while due to being blamed for Bernadette's murder and the ostracization she was subjected to by teachers and students when she returned to the High School.
" We d like to know, Bernadette's friend one who supposedly defended her honor" did that really happen?"
That friend did exist. If you read the comments that were posted under the "Sorry for the wait" (June) article, titled " Borderline murder trial of BP by Michael Covino, she was interviewed so you can read about it.
"The commuity owe's those 2 girls an apology"
I agree. Maybe they got one.
"She only confessed cause the detectives were closing in on her"
That's what it looked like.
"No one know's what really took place with the 2 girls that were blamed, at the trial, and all"
The trial was written about in the article I mentioned above.
"The movie and reality are 2 different subjects"
Yes.
Well, read first article" Sorry for the wait, want to say to anoymous who stated we rehash the past, you don't like it, get off this site. I read about the trial, I read other articles, fact: there was a crowd at the trial, Miramonte students, and Orinda. They were supporting the Costas"s who blames them. Kirstens friends mostly and loved one's in her community. A highly popular girl. Another article.I read, one of the blamed girls, was asked to join the Bobbie's but refused. Apparently, before she turned goth, she was in Kirsten's circle. The other, she was singled out by. Kirsten, Kirsten use to tease her, and they figured she snapped and killed Kirsten. She sounds like she didn't have a chance to start with from the start. I don't know towards the last if she was socially accepted. Bernadette was popular in her own way from what. I read, her BFF could'nt figure out why she never thought she was. The other anonymous, is either Bernadette, or one of her Protti Private sisters. They were made fun of badly , also played cootie tag games with them, no obe played with them at recess on one article a lady wrote whose sister, grew up with her sister's, her sister did it to, and feels badly now. That isn' t Bernadette, that' s her sister's, Bernadette was'nt there then. Kirsten had the guys, and. Bernadette did'nt. Well she was quite, they probaly did'nt know her. She did it all in fear of rejection, which she ended up getting. So. Kirsten woykd tell, yes she'd face rejection, but, not like she did face. She faced the worst kind of public humiliation ever. People hated her, She knew it, and still know's it. Well Bernadette, I hope murdering. Kirsten was expensive, it cost you friends, and your community, and respect. Also, how did you get out the blood? Did one of the Protti privates help ypu?
Purple Haze, which of the girls had substance abuse problems? The goth girl, or the one who once was in Social Graces?
Well, read first article" Sorry for the wait, want to say to anoymous who stated we rehash the past, you don't like it, get off this site. I read about the trial, I read other articles, fact: there was a crowd at the trial, Miramonte students, and Orinda. They were supporting the Costas"s who blames them. Kirstens friends mostly and loved one's in her community. A highly popular girl. Another article.I read, one of the blamed girls, was asked to join the Bobbie's but refused. Apparently, before she turned goth, she was in Kirsten's circle. The other, she was singled out by. Kirsten, Kirsten use to tease her, and they figured she snapped and killed Kirsten. She sounds like she didn't have a chance to start with from the start. I don't know towards the last if she was socially accepted. Bernadette was popular in her own way from what. I read, her BFF could'nt figure out why she never thought she was. The other anonymous, is either Bernadette, or one of her Protti Private sisters. They were made fun of badly , also played cootie tag games with them, no obe played with them at recess on one article a lady wrote whose sister, grew up with her sister's, her sister did it to, and feels badly now. That isn' t Bernadette, that' s her sister's, Bernadette was'nt there then. Kirsten had the guys, and. Bernadette did'nt. Well she was quite, they probaly did'nt know her. She did it all in fear of rejection, which she ended up getting. So. Kirsten woykd tell, yes she'd face rejection, but, not like she did face. She faced the worst kind of public humiliation ever. People hated her, She knew it, and still know's it. Well Bernadette, I hope murdering. Kirsten was expensive, it cost you friends, and your community, and respect. Also, how did you get out the blood? Did one of the Protti privates help ypu?
Purple Haze, I googled World Cat, and contacted my library, they have nothing on the case. I also tried to pull it up on my computer, no luck. You know how to get the story?
Found it, very interesting. Her trial was like a concert. Oh well, you get what you give. She was popular enough, she didn"t have to do thAt. In Junior high, was told she was shy and didn" t have many friends before that, she was to shy, but a friend broke her loose.Before she murdered, she was popular. She wasn"t a lonely wallflower obstrasized. Sone lonely wallflowers are just shy and quiet, and just keep to themselves, not necessarily obstrasized by the puplic. Kirsten"s friends say if they never ever see. Bernadette again it s still to soon. Id feel that way to, if she killed my BFF. Jealousy is serious.
They should of just left her to be shy, she"d been 100 times better off and liked better cpuldn't of been any worse. Popularity destroyed her, and. Kirsten's family and everyone around. She may not of been popular, but she'd at least not of ended up hated.
"Purple Haze, which of the girls had substance abuse problems? The goth girl, or the one who once was in Social Graces?"
What's "social graces"??
It was the "goth" girl. However, she described herself as "new wave", not goth.
Social graces is a name of people who are in the top 10. That one girl was, and. so was. Bernadette. Bernadette s first year at. Miramonte, they didn't know her yet. After the. Bobbies she was the top. On mean girls the movie she'd been. Lindsey Lohan reminded me of her. Its a shame she could'nt of just been herself, or stay at the catholic school, Kirsten may be alive today. Yes she hurt alot of people, Kitsten's family and friends, and the 2 girls blamed for the crime, and finally her family. Bernadette think she was bullied, a girl in. England named. Kelly. Yeoman 13 commited suicide cause she'd come home with bruises on her back where she was stabbed with pencil"s, and they d break her glasses, hollar obscenity outside her home at her and beat her up after school all cause she was overweight and unfashionable. They considered hee ugly, she truly was bullied, no one would be friends with her, one tried, and she coukd'nt take the heat. Also homeless to Havard. Luz. Murray was bullied abd she made her life a 360 degree turn around. Bernadette was nothing like them, she was well liked. Her becoming an outcast was her decission after the choice she made.
Social graces is a name of people who are in the top 10. That one girl was, and. so was. Bernadette. Bernadette s first year at. Miramonte, they didn't know her yet. After the. Bobbies she was the top. On mean girls the movie she'd been. Lindsey Lohan reminded me of her. Its a shame she could'nt of just been herself, or stay at the catholic school, Kirsten may be alive today. Yes she hurt alot of people, Kitsten's family and friends, and the 2 girls blamed for the crime, and finally her family. Bernadette think she was bullied, a girl in. England named. Kelly. Yeoman 13 commited suicide cause she'd come home with bruises on her back where she was stabbed with pencil"s, and they d break her glasses, hollar obscenity outside her home at her and beat her up after school all cause she was overweight and unfashionable. They considered hee ugly, she truly was bullied, no one would be friends with her, one tried, and she coukd'nt take the heat. Also homeless to Havard. Luz. Murray was bullied abd she made her life a 360 degree turn around. Bernadette was nothing like them, she was well liked. Her becoming an outcast was her decission after the choice she made.
"Social graces is a name of people who are in the top 10. That one girl was, and. so was. Bernadette"
Was that an academic thing?
" Bernadette s first year at. Miramonte, they didn't know her yet. After the. Bobbies she was the top"
Bernadette wasn't a freshman when she murdered Kirsten. She had just finished her sophomore (2nd) year. What do you mean she was "the top"?
It was her first year at. Miramonte sophmore was the1st year, some schools start with freshmen, and others, Sophmore. When she first attended Miramonte, they didn' t know her rigjt away according to the. World. Cat you set up, But, one girl that was blamed, it was said she was once in the Social Setting Era, she ate lunch with the preppie's for a long time, the pther one they thought she was into witchcraftl, the way she talkef and acted, also. Kirsten use to tease her, and it was said by her, if you don't shut up, Im going to kill you, that's why she was blamed. I doubt she was ever in the Social Graces at all. Bernadette was'nt the top, but she was in the top group with the Bobbies, before they found out she murdered. Her one friend said she was as popular as. Kirsten. Similar story of a girl. I went to school with, the one who burned a girl' s hair, the girl she attacked was beautiful. She dated a giy she wanted, and could'nt handle his rejection so she and friends caught her at night, she set her hair on fire. The girl got the fire out, her friends told pn her, she became a Social. Outcast left school cause to many people hated her after that. Before that, 2 other girls were bullied and obstrasized, then she became the school and town target, she was bullied relentlessly and stil would, they finally accepted the former bullied girls. She said on her facebook her schoolmates set her apart today from thier Social. Scene, she regrets it to. I doubt she 'd care if she killef her as well. She was capable of murder. Bernadette in the movie, one of Kirsten's friend went up to her froend, and told hernshe didnt belong there, on. World. Cat it was a Orinda mother. Did you see the part where they all signed for. Bernadette. to get rhe death penalty? I dont know if it was adults, students there, or both. One reader felt sorry for. Bernadette cause the way tne community turned on her. Wah Wah she deserved it.
"It was her first year at. Miramonte sophmore was the1st year, some schools start with freshmen, and others, Sophmore"
No, it wasn't. Bernadette had just finished her sophomore year (2nd year) of HS when she murdered Kirsten.
"When she first attended Miramonte, they didn' t know her rigjt away"
That's normal when you're a freshman.
"Did you see the part where they all signed for. Bernadette. to get rhe death penalty"
No, they didn't sign it for Bernadette. A woman whose husband was murdered was asking different people to sign a petition for the death penalty.
" it was said she was once in the Social Setting Era, she ate lunch with the preppie's for a long time"
Yes, the "new wave punk" girl was a "preppy" before she changed her image.
"he pther one they thought she was into witchcraftl, the way she talkef and acted, also. Kirsten use to tease her, and it was said by her, if you don't shut up, Im going to kill you"
The other girl said that, not Kirsten.
"One reader felt sorry for. Bernadette cause the way tne community turned on her. Wah Wah she deserved it"
A reader in the article or on this blog?
Yes, it was the girl nobody liked, that threaten to kill. Kirsten, that's why they took that she murdered Kirsten. They felt she flipped out on. Kirsten. She was labeled goth, and a kook as well. I read in an article somewhere, that a reader said she felt sory for. Bernadette it was on another blog. Glad she does, no one else does, she made herself an outcast. She made her own reputation, no. I don't have sympathy for a killer, have sympathy for the Costas 's. People who suppoort Bernadette, would support Susan Smith, or Andrea Yates baby killer's or support terrorist' s as well.
Maybe a reason why the reader felt sympathy for Bernadette is because the Rolling Stone article and "Death of a Cheerleader" movie deliberately portrayed Bernadette as a pitiful, naive, friendless, socially inept little girl and Kirsten was deliberately portrayed as an insufferable, unpleasant, conceited bitch.
Bernadette hasn't changed that.much. All the changing, and rehabilitation wont bring Kirsten back, its to late for the. Costas, they suffered the.most. The 2 girls who were blamed, suffered also.they got blamed by the community for something they had no part of. On Killer kids, they had a documentary which interviewed one of those girls, she said, she and Bernadette were friends, I doubt she would want to be now. Bernadette caused those 2 girls alot of troible. Bernadette got what she deerved at her trial, humiliation and all. I read where Bernadette didnt have many guys growing up, Kitsten got them all, and. Bernadette could' nt accept it. She had her circle of friends and was accepted by the general population, just could'nt get the guys to notice her. She was quiet, that may be a reason
Well she' s married now, she has more than alot of people, she got to live out her life, while Kirsten s was taken. No excuse, all over rejection, not bullying. Some people I read said, well she may of had it as hard as her sisters at the catholic school, this isnt about her.life at tge catholic school, its about. Kirsten's life which she robbed. Kirsten and her family from.
F: Purplehaze
" The 2 girls who were blamed, suffered also.they got blamed by the community for something they had no part of"
That must have been such a horrific experience. Murder is one of the worst things someone can be accused of and they had to deal with that when they were teens.
"Kirsten s was taken. No excuse, all over rejection, not bullying"
It's understandable why Kirsten wasn't interested in Bernadette trying to "get to know her" in the car-park. Most people would not respond well to someone who concocted a deceitful plan to lure them out of their house alone. Most people would be livid.
To bad her friend talked her into attending. Miramonte, she should of stayed at that catholic achool she attended. Whatever problems, or, if there were any problems, couldn't of been any worse than her problems at. Miramonte, Kirsten may still be alive today. Catholic school probaly dont put much social pressure on students to fit in, probaly isn't near as competitive. She ended up in high school the most hated at. Miramonte, and on. Orinda, and, throughout the entire community after she did that. She d still be the most hated, she is on the internet to all who know s her. Her trial was packed like a Def. Leopard concert. They weren't there in support of her, a very few were
Teenage girls are smotty, even I was, its typical, and goes along with the territory. So if. Kirsten was snotty, she wasn't the only 15 year old who was. Bernadette was probaly smotty at times herself, if not, she was sure a.murderer.
Bernadette had a mind of her own and she didn't have to "allow her friend to talk her into going to Miramonte".
Catholic schools are considered to be very authoritarian and very regimented (mine certainly was), so maybe Bernadette would have done better in an environment like that.
Catholic school can indeed be very competitive.
"Her trial was packed like a Def. Leopard concert"
How do you know?
Yes, teenage girls do tend to be "smotty". I'm sure Bernadette was also "smotty". An example of Bernadette's smottiness is that she wanted the Bobbies to remain exclusive, whereas her friend thought anyone should be able to join if they want to.
I read an article on Sorry for the wait LOL borderline murder. Its on there. I dont know it to be actual, I just read it. Look it up, it s on there. I have no sympathy for murderers. Whatever she got wasnt enough.
I remember now, thanks.
People who support Bernadette also are, Hillary Clinton supporters, I will not only hold. Kirsten's death against. Bernadette, Ill also hold the fact she allowed two innocent girls to, not only take the blame, but she would of allowec them to go to prison, and not bat an eye. She only confessed cause, the. FBI were closing in on her, her babysitting story didn't wash,and she had access to a. Pinto. So whoever supports her, has to be her sister s. No one else likes her. Also the townspeople, neighbors, friends. and, Miramonte students that crowded her at court, she desrrved it, to bad they didnt spit on her, if they did good. She had a guy she dated, he probaly spotted she was unstable and weird. I heard she stalked him, created drama at CYA while incarcerated, so she had issues, she didnt want to go back to. Miramonte, she knew she was done, they still got her as good as they could at her trial, the townspeople were not there for her, they were there for the Costas family. Only a few were there for. Bernadette.
People's political affiliations have nothing to do with the blog so there is really no point writing that " People who support Bernadette also are, Hillary Clinton supporters".
How did she stalk the guy she supposedly dated if she was in juvenile jail? That doesn't make sense.
I read she stalked a guy while she was attending Miramonte high school, before she confessed. I cant swear its the trurh, although I put nothing past her, I heard while incarcerated, she met a guy through prison, became penpals, he visited her there, accused him of cheating and created a scene. Enough of. Bernadette, lets talk about. Kirsten, the sweet adorable girl everyone loved, whose time was so short. Every guy wanted to date her, everygirl wanted to be her, she had lots and lots of friends, fun to be around, everyone just loved her. A girl who was friends with. Kirsten and. Bernadette, cant forgive. Bernadette, cause. Kirsten was a good and fun friend to have. Bernadette was popular in her own way, had a circle of friends at school, a good student, got along with her teachers, accepted by the general population until they found out she killed, thats when she became shunned by the entire community of. Orinda,and, still would be to this very day. She became more unpopular than. Nancy Kane, and maybe the other goth girl who was blamed. Kirsten she had a good family life, and she was a good student also. She d been homecoming quuen if ahe d lived to of been a senior. Tes there were other popular girls like. Kirsten, the point is, everybody missed Kirsten, and, it wasnt the same without her, alot of lives were affected by this, mainly the. Costas's. They should mount a large picture of. Kirsten at. Meadows swimming club un honor if her memory. Of course, Miramonte students have moved forward, but, they have never forgot. Kirsten, nor will they ever.
Kirsten had alot of goals for the future, she would of succeeded very well today, and gone off to college and live out her dream. She may of had a family of her own today. U seen articles about how. Bernadette was bullied in earlier years, well even if s, it wasnt as bad as her siblings when they were in grammar school, this case has nothing to do with the catholic school people, its about a life who could of made something out of her life. I read. Kirsten liked everyone, most people liked her. She was cute and funny, she wasnt no snob, maybe to a degree, maybe with. Bernadette, only cause. Bernadette was always in her face and was desperately trying to he friends with her. I dont think it was a lesbian thing, I believe she said something and. Kirsten got it wrong, so she went off in a rage and murdered her. Whether she meant to or not, point is her rage was so far out of control, she shouldn't have deadlt weapons if she's that dangerous. Kirsten wasn't bothering her, she couldn't leave well enough alone, and she s mentally unhinged to start with, if it wasnt Kirsten, it d been someone else, maybe at the catholic school. Kirsten absolutely didnt bully her, she was afraid. Kirsten would of exposed her weirdness, well it got exposed to the community. She would nt of been exposed as a murderer. Her sister. Gina at the bank, people probaly say that girls sister is a murderer, not so sure. Gina isnt a perjurer. She supported. Bernadette and her mom,dad,and sisters did to. How could they. Yes she was acting up while locked up, maybe she found. God, and will stay on the right track, I still wouldn't turm my back and trust her, it d be hard.
Accounts vary as to whether Kirsten was mean, a snob etc. In all likelihood, she was probably mean at times. She was a teenage girl, after all and one in a position of power over her peers. That doesn't mean she was a bully or a bad person, it means she was a teenager, and as much as I've tried to sympathise with Bernadette (and I do to an extent), my sympathy for her feelings of inadequacy just can't stretch to sympathy for her committing murder. Killing someone is just not a normal response. From what I've read, she wasn't an outcast- she had friends and was well liked, just not by the people she wanted to be liked by. She wasn't accepted by the elite, but most people aren't- that's what makes them exclusive. Had she been bullied or an outcast, I could understand her actions more. I also don't understand what she really planned that night. Her defence had so many holes: the knife for a start, the fact she was wearing sweats to a 'party' - none of it adds up. The intimation that drugs were involved - was it her that got the weed in an attempt to impress Kirsten with the intention of getting stoned and bonding and that backfired on her? Was she worried that Kirsten was going to tell people she was a weirdo a d get in trouble about the drugs? We'll never know and it's frustrating that Bernadette's confession seems to be only half truths, but whatever happened cannot justify her actions. I'm not here to stalk or vilify her, she's served her time, even if her sentence was questionable. She hasn't re-offended, but you do have to wonder whether she is really rehabilitated? The blog, for example. Hardly someone trying to lie low, in fact, she's still seeking approval and attention. Describing herself as a 'life hacker' - surely someone truly sorry would shy away from that term? I hope one day she'll speak out and give a full and frank account of what happened but I don't think that day will ever come and we'll never really know. What we do know, is that some poor girl lost her life and her parents lost a child in the most horrific and unforgivable way.
Bernette wasnt bullied, she was popular, her friend bff they were both popular, after the murder,Bernadette was an outcast, and so was her bff that went to her trial, I read her bff after supporting. Bernadette, they picked badly on her at. Miramonte, and today Miramonte students who knew her still shun her, alot of them would today, as well as they would. Bernadette.
People on here who say stop bringing up. Bernadette s past, well she should of thought about that, before she did it. Tell the@ap. Costas tamily its past, not for the loss of Kirsten, it is not past, they miss her everyday.
What. Bernadette did wasnt any mistake, a mistake is forgetting a birthday, or not meaning to hurt someone s feelings, getting pregnant, not married, that s a mistake. Murder is taking a life, Bernadette also let the blame rest on innocemt people, that s not a mistake.
Britney, it's been 2 months since you said you were working on stuff for the blog.
Bernie was clearly harbouring a lot of hate for Kirsten before she freaked out and killed her. She was dangerously sick and needed psychiatric care.
Psychopaths can't be fixed.
Anonymous,
"In all likelihood, she was probably mean at times. She was a teenage girl, after all and one in a position of power over her peers. That doesn't mean she was a bully or a bad person, it means she was a teenager"
I agree that she was a typical teenager. All teenagers can be a bit snippy at times. I was and I'm sure you were. I can't think of anyone that I knew that wasn't, even those who were considered to be very sweet and kind. Was she really in a position over her peers, though? I know that she was considered to be popular, but I don't think she had power that she wielded over everyone.
"From what I've read, she wasn't an outcast- she had friends and was well liked, just not by the people she wanted to be liked by. She wasn't accepted by the elite, but most people aren't- that's what makes them exclusive."
Bernadette was liked enough by the "elite" to be accepted into a sorority like group that was considered to be exclusive.
"The intimation that drugs were involved - was it her that got the weed in an attempt to impress Kirsten with the intention of getting stoned and bonding and that backfired on her?"
That's what I think happened. She might have smoked a bit and because she wasn't used to it, she probably got stoned easily and made an ass of herself in front of someone she was stated to idolise.
"Was she worried that Kirsten was going to tell people she was a weirdo a d get in trouble about the drugs?"
That's a likely scenario, imo.
I don't know if a person can be rehabilitated after such a heinous murder. Like you said, it wasn't a normal response. Perhaps she is aware of her "triggers" now and has learned to keep them in check. It would be very difficult to trust someone like that enough to be alone with them. I don't think I could.
"Hardly someone trying to lie low, in fact, she's still seeking approval and attention. Describing herself as a 'life hacker' - surely someone truly sorry would shy away from that term?"
I agree. I've written this a couple of times on the blog, but She knew how the unfortunate phrase "life hacker" would be interpreted, yet she used it anyway. She was asked about it on the visitor posts section of her FB page and her response gives the impression she is mocking Kirsten's murder with the winking smiley face. It can't really be interpreted in any other way.
"I hope one day she'll speak out and give a full and frank account of what happened"
I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
"What we do know, is that some poor girl lost her life and her parents lost a child in the most horrific and unforgivable way"
It's so sad because it was preventable. May Kirsten RIP.
I wanted to let you all know that the Investigation Discovery Channel is coming out with a new series and one episode is on this murder. It's titled The 1980's: Deadliest decade. It will air November 28th and it's an hour long.
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Hi Unknown,
Thank you for letting the blog know about the documentary. I don't have investigation Discovery US, but maybe it will be uploaded on youtube?
I hope it's a balanced account of what happened and that it portrays Kirsten fairly. Would you please give your opinion on the documentary for those who may not be able to watch it?
All the best.
You bet Purple haze. I was on my phone last night so had to post as unknown. It's Sheryl. I'm really hoping that they interview friends of Kirstens. I'm hoping that it will be on youtube shortly after the episode airs. Really got me thinking about all of the people saying how obsessed we are with this story. Truth of the matter is the ID channel has already done two stories on this matter and we just like true crime. I watched the first episode of this new series last night and it looked good so we will see.
Hi Sheryl.
How did you find out about the documentary?
" Really got me thinking about all of the people saying how obsessed we are with this story"
I would like for whoever thinks people are obsessed to point out examples. Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted with a murderer and defend a murder victim? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted with the murderer’s nonchalant behaviour after her brutal crime? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted that the murderer allowed two innocent girls to be accused of the murder? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted that the murderer was able to nonchalantly discuss Kirsten's murder in class with other classmates, including Kirsten's friends? Is it considered "obsessed" to be disgusted that Bernadette's behaviour was reported to not have changed after she murdered Kirsten? (she was reported to be her usual smiley self).
It's not that I like true crime. I feel extremely sorry for real victim, Kirsten who was brutally and unjustly murdered and unjustly vilified in a movie. I also feel extremely sorry for Kirsten's family, particularly her parents who not only lost their only daughter, but also have been cruelly vilified by a pathetic individual on this blog and another blog.
I would appreciate your opinion on the documentary on whether or not it was fair and objective.
All the best.
Hi Purple Haze, I found out about the documentary when the ID channel was showing previews of the upcoming series. One of them was the Cheerleader murder. I googled THE 1980’s: THE DEADLIEST DECADE, the cheerleader murder and I was able to see it was about this case.
I will surely give my opinion on the documentary! Have a great day.
Hi Sheryl,
I read a short synopsis about the documentary on a website and the description for the episode was disappointing, but maybe the documentary won't be that bad.
The synopsis:
It was suggested that Kirsten and Bernadette were rivals which doesn't appear to have been the case. (According to Bernadette and Kirsten's mutual friend, Bernadette looked up to Kirsten and idolised her)
Bernadette was a "bobbie wannabe" (She was a bobbie, so he wasn't a bobbie wannabe. She was a "cheerleader wannabe")
The bobbies ruled the school (I don't know whether or not that was true.)
Bernadette was a very jealous person (true. she admitted it herself)
Pressure to "fit in" and "look a certain way", but didn't emphasize that Bernadette was very sick and her reaction to Kirsten was extreme and abnormal.
The last point: "the pressure to "fit in" and look "a certain way" is universal and is/was not unique to Miramonte and Orinda, and it certainly should not be used as a scapegoat to explain away Bernadette's dangerous mental instability and inferiority complex.
I lived in two different countries when I was a teenager (one was literally on the other side of the world from the other -- southern hemisphere to northern hemisphere) and "fitting in" and "looking a certain way" was also something teenagers went through and do you know how many people murdered someone else as a result of it? 0!
"I will surely give my opinion on the documentary!"
I'd appreciate that, thank you.
All the best.
What I am really hoping for is having friends of both Kirsten and Bernadette being interviewed. It might be to much to hope for any family members but that would be nice. The other two shows I believe were only 1/2 hour in length and this one is an hour. One more week, I can hardly wait. Have a great day:)
Hi Sheryl,
I doubt Kirsten's friends will be interviewed and I doubt that the documentary will be objective. I hope I'm wrong and the documentary will be fair.
Thank you. You too.
The following is a preview on the ID website for this tragic case:
http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/the-1980s-the-deadliest-decade/
There is a lovely picture of Kirsten in colour at 1:33. I love Nancy's mohawk. It really suits her.
Until today I had never heard of this murder, I watched the special on ID. Then I was curious where bernadette ended up, and I was hoping she was no where near me. I hope bernadette reads this.. you are a disgusting human being. You are as ugly on the outside as you are on the inside. You have no class, and saying you paid your dues is laughable. Everyone commenting on this blog saying people have no right to talk about her, we should consider her family.. Kirsten would probably have had her own grandkids by now as well, but big nose took that opportunity away. So I will say whatever I want about bernie big nose. Justice was not served. I'm not a lunatic like bernie, or I'd call her up and lure her out under false pretenses and conveniently have a huge knife in my car "I'd have it in there so I could cut fruit in my lunches".. and I'd get justice for kirsten.. but I'm not a crazy bitch so I'll just talk shit online. Because that is how normal people lash out and get their anger out.. sooooo take a note bernie big nose!!! You murderous sick freak.. weird was the biggest under statement and you should have thanked her for being so lenient in her word choice. If I were her I would have said way way worse. Because not making the cheer squad and having weird sisters, is part of life.. being mad is one thing. Stabbing someone to death is so animalistic, and truly disturbing.. I mean it really scares me that you have fooled people you're entire life.. you should be locked up forever. If you were black, or if you were a man they would have given you the needle. You're sick. I don't know that you deserve to die, but you surely don't need to be taking care of people, and you shouldn't be allowed to enjoy your life, and pass on your dimented genes. I hope your at least heavily medicated. God help you! And seriously help yourself out and stay away from social media, you've done enough damage.
Omg Na, you made me laugh so hard!
When are you going to update the blog?
I have never spoken to anyone aboit this case except for the police. You see, I am in a very unoqie position with all of this. I am Catholic, met Bernadette in first grade at Santa Maria Catholic School in Orinda. My sisters and brother were the same age as her brother and sisters. My father had Mr.Protti as a client. Our families were active in the church. I swam for a country club in Orinda, and Kirsten as a dear friend. Coincidentally, I happened to be tall and blonde and frequently wore sweats, so the police questioned me. I am friends with the girl falsely accused. I will speak more on this tomorrow, as it is late amdI just stumbled onro this site. Just know that I know all. In case ypu are wondering, it was indeed premeditated.
I have never spoken to anyone aboit this case except for the police. You see, I am in a very unoqie position with all of this. I am Catholic, met Bernadette in first grade at Santa Maria Catholic School in Orinda. My sisters and brother were the same age as her brother and sisters. My father had Mr.Protti as a client. Our families were active in the church. I swam for a country club in Orinda, and Kirsten as a dear friend. Coincidentally, I happened to be tall and blonde and frequently wore sweats, so the police questioned me. I am friends with the girl falsely accused. I will speak more on this tomorrow, as it is late amdI just stumbled onro this site. Just know that I know all. In case ypu are wondering, it was indeed premeditated.
I have never spoken to anyone aboit this case except for the police. You see, I am in a very unoqie position with all of this. I am Catholic, met Bernadette in first grade at Santa Maria Catholic School in Orinda. My sisters and brother were the same age as her brother and sisters. My father had Mr.Protti as a client. Our families were active in the church. I swam for a country club in Orinda, and Kirsten as a dear friend. Coincidentally, I happened to be tall and blonde and frequently wore sweats, so the police questioned me. I am friends with the girl falsely accused. I will speak more on this tomorrow, as it is late amdI just stumbled onro this site. Just know that I know all. In case ypu are wondering, it was indeed premeditated.
Sorry about the typos, my phone is cracked.
Would love to hear more from you S!
Santa Maria? Isn't that the name of the school in the movie? Grow up.
SANTA MIRA
OK....it's Santa Mira. It's still a fake school that "S" is saying she went to.
You went to school with Bernadette, and friends with. Kirsten, were you a cheerleader and in the Bobbies?
Santa. Maria a catholic school in. Orinda. Santa Mira is a fictious name. So.S you knew the girls at. Miramonte. That's interesting you know the homecoming queen in the pics presented aa well.
Santa. Maria a catholic school in. Orinda, Santa. Mira is a fictious name used in the movie.
S tell us more about Miramonte and Santa Maria. Did you know Nancy Kane snd the other girl blamed? Orinda seems like a nice place to grow up safe community. The students set high expectations for themselves. Sure they partied and smoked weed thats paet of youngsters. Alot of them went through college. We hope to hear more from you. The homecoming queen was thar Kirstens BFF?
Oh please, she may be telling the truth give her a break. Santa. Maria not. Mira.
Cut her some slack. She may be telling the truth. Its interesting to hear fron someone who was actually there.
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about what I saw based on the movie, what I think of the murderer, who was a girl totally lost in her thoughts, with much envy and solaceo ..... and also be a very cold and cauculista girl. And still have blood of cockroach ,make a blog of your own victim, what a disgust of human beings like these ..... one day will have to settle accounts with the justice of God.
Homecoming Queen was Carolyn Dodge, a simply down to earth girl. Runner.up wasKaren Krull another ""down to earth"" girl. They were.in Kirsten's social graces. In the movie the other blonde was portrayed as Diane MacDonald, brunette was Stacy Bennett and.the long brown hair Carrie Norris. If you ever watched the movie just one of the guys the transgender girl he had a crush on a blonde cheerleader whose brother would bully him, the girl reminds me of Karen Krull she could portray her life. And clueless the girl who adopted Brittany Murphy could portray Kirsten Winthier and Kirsten Costas and them. Tori Spelling was no where near Kirsten Costas.
Jamie Hall a combination of Jessica and Liesl.
Bernadette / Jeannette is back to posting on Twitter.
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