Bernadette Protti IS Jeannette Tomanka: Happy belated Birthday Kirsten!!

Thursday, August 11, 2016

Happy belated Birthday Kirsten!!

I started this blog to honor Kirsten. May we never forget the beautiful soul whose life was viciously snuffed out. Jeannette will be ok. She is still breathing. Kirsten would have been 48.

398 Comments:

At August 12, 2016 at 3:23 PM , Karen : ) said...: Those are lovely sweet pictures, particularly the toddler pictures. May Kirsten rest in peace.
At August 12, 2016 at 4:49 PM , Unknown said...: I love the one where her eyes are looking up.
At August 12, 2016 at 6:49 PM , Karen : ) said...: That's a nice picture. It looks like she is posing in a goofing around kind of way.
At August 13, 2016 at 9:40 PM , Anonymous said...: What a lovely tribute!
At August 15, 2016 at 4:59 AM , Anonymous said...: Beautiful pictures.
At August 20, 2016 at 2:07 PM , Anonymous said...: Those are nice pictures of Kirsten. The ballerina picture is so cute.
At August 25, 2016 at 8:28 AM , Anonymous said...: It's sad looking at the pictures and thinking about what happened to her.
At August 25, 2016 at 6:31 PM , Anonymous said...: I really don't understand the point of this blog. I'm honestly just trying to understand. What was done to this girl was awful and there is no way to justify it... really there isn't. But I have to ask what does obsessing over her killer do? How is this benefiting anyone? I understand the anger.. but I don't understand the point of "exposing" this woman. If she has kids and a family isn't it in their best interest to let her go to stop giving her the time of day? I'm just looking for understanding.. this is in no way meant to disrespect Kirsten. What was done to her was horrible.
At August 25, 2016 at 6:34 PM , Anonymous said...: I really don't understand the point of this blog. I'm honestly just trying to understand. What was done to this girl was awful and there is no way to justify it... really there isn't. But I have to ask what does obsessing over her killer do? How is this benefiting anyone? I understand the anger.. but I don't understand the point of "exposing" this woman. If she has kids and a family isn't it in their best interest to let her go to stop giving her the time of day? I'm just looking for understanding.. this is in no way meant to disrespect Kirsten. What was done to her was horrible.
At August 28, 2016 at 5:27 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, Aug 25, 6:34

I'm sure you have read the comments under the different articles on this blog and will have come across your questions being answered numerous times, so don't attempt to feign ignorance and write that you "don't understand the point of this blog". What you are "trying" to do is elicit a negative reaction and evoke conflict by asking obtuse questions that have been answered countless times on this blog.

What is the point of this blog?

This is a blog that discusses the case and supports Kirsten, the victim, who is still being cruelly vilified 30+ years after her death. People discuss this case in an attempt to try and make sense of such a senseless, savage and tragic crime. The questions this case raises: How did Bernadette get away with it for as long as she did considering the very clear description of the murderer? Why was Bernadette's alibi not checked out? What induced Bernadette’s murderous rage? Did she exhibit signs of being dangerous and unhinged before the murder? Can analyzing this crime help people to detect dangerous signs in others? Can a person who commits such a savage and monstrous crime ever be truly rehabilitated? Why was Bernadette portrayed as a sympathetic character who was bullied by Kirsten when there is no evidence to support that she was bullied by Kirsten?...amongst many other questions.

"But I have to ask what does obsessing over her killer do?"

Give an example of someone obsessing over Bernadette.

"I understand the anger.. but I don't understand the point of "exposing" this woman"

Give examples of someone being angry.

What do you mean by "exposing" this woman"? Bernadette's real new name has been available on the internet long before this blog was created.
What has been "exposed" about Bernadette, which was in contrast to the movie "Death of a Cheerleader", some articles on this case, most notably the Rolling Stone article, and some other blogs that discuss this case, is that Bernadette had plenty of friends and her close friends loved her dearly, she fit in just fine, she was intelligent and did well in school and wasn't relentlessly bullied by Kirsten. My point is, she wasn't the pathetic loser depicted in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader" or other articles that deliberately attempt to portray her as a sympathetic character by demonizing Kirsten and intentionally tarnishing Kirsten's reputation.
At August 28, 2016 at 5:29 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, Aug 25, 6:34
Continued........

What has also been "exposed" is that Bernadette was a very sick mentally unhinged teenager that blamed Kirsten for her own inadequacies and killed Kirsten in a murderous rage because her neediness and desperation to get Kirsten alone understandably angered Kirsten. Most people would have been angered by Bernadette's behavior and put off by Bernadette's neediness and desperation for their friendship.

"If she has kids and a family isn't it in their best interest to let her go to stop giving her the time of day"

People should continue to support Kirsten if she continues to be wrongly vilified. If Bernadette truly wanted to move on with her life and be left alone and if she considered her children's feelings, she wouldn't have created the Jeannette Tomanka FB page or Jeannette Tomanka blog. The very little activity in the comments sections of her FB page that has 500+ likes and the many deleted comments is odd and suspicious, which will only encourage people to look her up and discover her past.

If Bernadette truly wanted to move on with her life and be left alone, she wouldn't have used the unfortunate phrase "life hacker" to refer to herself on her FB page and blog. She knew how that would be interpreted, yet she used it anyway. If Bernadette truly wanted to move on with her life and be left alone, she wouldn't have responded to the question, "Lifehacker. What does that mean to you"? with a response that has a nefarious double meaning with the winking smiley face, which suggests she was making a joke about Kirsten's murder.

If she truly wanted to move on with her life and be left alone, she wouldn't have attracted negative attention to herself by writing the following comment which alludes to her vicious murder of Kirsten:

"Don’t keep bringing up people’s mistakes, especially if they’ve paid the price. I don’t like to have my past mistakes thrown in my face, so I try very hard not to do that to others. Even people who make serious mistakes that may have resulted in the death of someone (like drunk driving) deserve a chance to rebuild their lives and move on, especially if they are truly repentant and served time. Every one of us has made mistakes, some worse than others, but we all should help each other move past them"

"I'm just looking for understanding"

You understand just fine. What you are clearly trying to do is to provoke a negative reaction by asking questions under the guise of feigning ignorance, questions that you know have been repeatedly asked and answered numerous times on the blog.

Are you going to answer my questions, or disappear for a while and then return asking the same inane repetitive questions?
At August 28, 2016 at 9:35 PM , Anonymous said...: Is this the same "anonymous" that tried to throw shade at the man who drove Kirsten home that night?
At August 28, 2016 at 10:19 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan. I don't know. The questions that "anonymous" asked above have been answered numerous times and I don't believe that "anonymous" hasn't read them, so why continue to ask questions that have been repeatedly answered? It gives the impression that "anonymous" is trolling.
At August 28, 2016 at 10:38 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, Aug 25, 6:31

The likelihood of this small blog affecting Bernadette's life is slim to none, unless you can prove otherwise. If you could prove it, you wouldn't though, would you?

People can support and defend Kirsten if they wish, and people can support and defend Bernadette if they wish. What's your problem with people defending and supporting a teenager that was brutally killed? I won't hold my breath for a response, or perhaps you wish that I would.
At August 29, 2016 at 7:59 PM , Sassygurl said...: Is it hard to get the idea that Kirsten was the one who was murdered, people has been trying to tarnish her reputation! How could anyone sympathize with a deranged, unhinged sociopath like Bernadette protti/ jeannette tomanka? Think of Kirsten and her family and stop being so heartless!!!!!
At August 30, 2016 at 4:46 PM , Karen : ) said...: Some people just don't care that Kirsten was the one that was brutally murdered. Some people even blame Kirsten's parents for her murder.
At August 30, 2016 at 7:51 PM , Anonymous said...: I was honestly just trying to understand where you were coming from and the motive of this blog. Imy a college student and I had intended to use this blog as a resource for a project for a government class. (Maybe I should have made that clear) I just wanted to understand what you felt the benefit of this all was. Ultimately it would be very wise if she stayed off any format of social media completely. Having her own blog shes is exposing herself. I tried to read through many of the comments on the blog and it really did not answer my questions. I saw a lot of arguing and felt a little confused . I think what happened was horrible and there is no way to justify it. This was in no way meant as a troll. I'm sorry
At August 30, 2016 at 9:07 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous,

Many blogs are generally very sympathetic towards Bernadette. This is a blog that is sympathetic towards Kirsten.

" Imy a college student and I had intended to use this blog as a resource for a project for a government class"

Do you mind explaining that further?

"Ultimately it would be very wise if she stayed off any format of social media completely"

That's unlikely to happen.

"I tried to read through many of the comments on the blog and it really did not answer my questions"

I'm surprised you haven't because I have answered questions very similar to yours countless times on the blog.

"I saw a lot of arguing"

Really? My comments may come across as "arguing" or hostile, but I generally feel calm when writing them. I tell it like it is and perhaps that comes across as argumentative.

"This was in no way meant as a troll. I'm sorry"

No worries.
At August 30, 2016 at 9:37 PM , Anonymous said...: I've studied criminal justice and am now in a class on government and politics. An assignment worth 30 percent of my grade is a research essay on one of several topics. One of them was weather or not we should use the death penalty as punishment. As of right now I haven't really decided my side on it. I wanted to really dig deep and find where victims were effected by these crimes and I found this blog as an outlet I guess. Bernadette is free and that seems to have a major effect on people. I have seen quite a bit of anger towards her on this blog as well as a need to defend her victim (which I completely understand ) but I wanted to understand the need to continue to expose her. I'm still gaining my opinion on this (the death penalty) as its something that I just struggle a little with. And it is not something that's effected me immediately. The thing I've found most compelling is that many of the people on death row (or who have died from death row) have only committed one murder much like bernadette yet she is free to live out her life. I'm sorry if my original questions seemed harsh. I kind of rushed through asking them as I was doing research. As well I'm mostly doing this from my phone and it's a little hard to spell out and use correct punctuation. I hope this cleara up where I am coming from. Thanks for your help and answers to my questions
At August 31, 2016 at 12:44 PM , Anonymous said...: The reason why Bernadette was not given the death penalty or life is because she was charged as a juvenile. If you have done any research on the case you wouldn't known that.
At August 31, 2016 at 5:39 PM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous,

You're welcome.

Do you think people are "exposing" Bernadette on this blog and why?

Best of luck with your project.
At September 4, 2016 at 9:47 AM , Anonymous said...: I am somewhat agreeing with the anonymous poster. It was a horrible act - but the person has paid for her crime, and should be allowed to live her life without continued crucifixion. There is nothing wrong with memorializing Kristen, she was loved by family and friends. Sometimes we fail to see the root cause of the problem - but can only identify with the outcome. I wonder what terrible role Kristen played in her own death? When we use materialstic things in an attempt to make ourselves better - it really only shows to our lack of maturity and understanding of life itself. I hope that Bernadette (Jeannette) has been able to move on - she changed her name for a REASON. We will never forget - but you have to heal to some point and move on. So, I do agree with the anonymous poster to some extent - if you are memorializing Kristen- then do so. However, I do not think that is what you are doing here. After reading all the post - the first thing that came to my mind was not - memorializing at all - but crucifying all these years later. It kind of holds true to the real issue underlying this case itself.
At September 4, 2016 at 9:58 AM , Anonymous said...: OMG! I just looked at your profile. Something is wrong with you! Something is really wrong with you! You have two blogs dedicated to harassing Bernadette/Jeannette. None of this crap you are posting has anything to do with keeping Kristen's memory alive! I clearly see the problem is not Bernadette/Jeannette - but YOU! You really need to see a counselor - actually a psychiatrist. This is NOT healthy and is indicative of a serious mental issue. Wow! We are going to be reading about you murdering someone next.
At September 4, 2016 at 10:05 AM , Anonymous said...: The last two comments written by bbmokc are directed towards the person that created this blog - listing her name as "Brittany" - which is probably not this person's real name. This person also has another blog harassing and crucifying Bernadette/Jeannette. There is a serious mental issue going on here. Please seek mental help. I am very serious - you need to seek some counseling. This is abnormal behavior that is borderline stalking and presents dangers to the person your efforts are so focused. You should be ashamed of yourself - but if this is a mental problem, which I strongly believe it is, you may not realize what you are doing.
At September 4, 2016 at 10:12 AM , Anonymous said...: Purple Haze, are you "Brittany" and the creator of this blog? If not, you need to be in counseling with the person responsible for this blog, as you are just as mentally off. I don't know anyone on here and stumbled upon this blog today after reading the 1985 story posted in the Ladies Home Journal, and then I looked at the Lifetime Movie with Tori Spelling. So I am not vested with any party - but I will sure give my opinion and I did!
At September 4, 2016 at 10:37 PM , Karen : ) said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 4, 2016 at 11:18 PM , Karen : ) said...: bbmok,

Are you suggesting that this small blog "is stopping Bernadette from living her life"? People can write about this crime and support Kirsten if they wish and there is nothing you can do about it. Not only did Bernadette brutally murder Kirsten in an unprovoked attack, she could block it out of her mind easily (her words), she could coolly have discussions about Kirsten's murder in class with other classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends, and she watched as innocent people got the blame for her murder, so why is it so hard for you to fathom that people are disgusted with that? It's a rhetorical question of course. it's fruitless and rather silly of me to ask if someone who sympathizes with a murderer can understand why others are disgusted with the murderer.

"Sometimes we fail to see the root cause of the problem"

Yes, the cause of the problem was that Bernadette was very, very mentally ill and appears to have been a ticking time bomb.

"I wonder what terrible role Kristen played in her own death?"

She didn't play a role in her death and you are an evil person to suggest that she did. Bernadette and Bernadette alone is to blame for Kristen's murder.You wrote that you think that I'm mentally ill, yet you suggest that Kirsten, who was savagely attacked from behind, played a role in her murder?

"When we use materialstic things in an attempt to make ourselves better - it really only shows to our lack of maturity and understanding of life itself"

Where is this coming from? Are you basing your opinions on the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader"? That's a fictional depiction. Kirsten's family were upper-middle class, not multi millionaires. Bernadette live in a wealthier area than Kirsten, so what does that tell you?

Your many comments have done nothing buy convey your utter lack of maturity and understanding.

" It kind of holds true to the real issue underlying this case itself"

What? Bernadette was clearly mentally unhinged and blamed Kirsten for her own inadequacies and killed Kirsten in a murderous rage because she concocted a plan to get Kirsten out of her house and her neediness and desperation to get Kirsten alone understandably angered Kirsten and gave the impression that she liked Kirsten sexually. Most people would have been angered by Bernadette's behavior and put off by Bernadette's neediness and desperation for their friendship.
At September 5, 2016 at 12:12 AM , Karen : ) said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At September 5, 2016 at 12:32 AM , Karen : ) said...: bbmok,

I have conversed with you on the ladies home journal blog. You wrote your comments under "rupaul" and I responded to you under Karen.

The following comment from you clearly conveys a twisted disposition and gives credence to the fact that you are utterly deluded and mentally ill. It is also another reason why Kirsten should continue to be supported because not only is she still being vilified 30+ years after her death, but her parents are also vilified.

I chose the following comment in particular because of the sheer unabashed evil blaming Kirsten's parents for her murder.

"Nope! Not when she was bullied and pushed to her limit!! Snobs like Kristen who think they are better than everyone, put others down, and degrade them because of their class status are the reason shootings like Columbine took place. I was raised to treat others with respect. Real class comes from decent human beings who have respect for others, and treating others the way that they want to be treated. I don’t believe she deserved to die, but she should have received a serious reality check. Maybe her parents should have raised her better. Sorry but the parents are to blame. My kid knows better than to bully others".

Where are the examples of Kirsten bullying Bernadette and pushing her to her limit? If Bernadette killed Kirsten because she was "bullied" and "put down by her", why didn't she give examples at her trial which would have strengthened her case? She didn't give examples because she wasn't bullied by Kirsten. Columbine has nothing to do with case and you know well that the two can't be compared. Can you give examples of Kirsten "degrading" others and "thinking she is better than everyone because of class status"? As someone close to the case stated: a lot more families in Orinda were wealthier than both Kirsten and Bernadette. Also, Bernadette lived in a wealthier area than Kirsten. All of your comments are just reiterating the plot for the movie "Death of a Cheerleader" .

"I was raised to treat others with respect. Real class comes from decent human beings who have respect for others"

It is abundantly clear from your comments that you do not have class and were not raised to treat others with respect, you odiously sanctimonious, deluded ignoramus. Is it respectful to perpetuate lies about a murdered teenage girl due to fictional depiction? Is it respectful to write in another comment that "Kirsten had it well deserved", which suggests that you think Kirsten's murder was justified? Is it respectful to suggest that Kirsten's parents should have raised her better and that they are to blame for her murder? Blaming Kirsten's parents for her death is the epitome of classlessness and disrespect. It also evil and sick. Shame on you.

" I don’t believe she deserved to die"

Why are you contradicting yourself? You wrote in another comment ", Kristen had it well deserved" and " I agree! I can’t stand bullies"

"My kid knows better than to bully others"

Judging from your malicious, reprehensible comments and utter ignorance and delusion, your moral fiber is rotten to the core, and I pity any child subjected to your skewed guidance as their moral fiber will no doubt succumb to decay.
At September 5, 2016 at 1:13 AM , Karen : ) said...: bbmok,

If anyone poses a risk for seriously hurting someone else, it is a person (you) who writes comments permeating with anger – an irrational anger- for those that are disgusted with a murderer. It is a person who attempts to lambaste others with puerile name calling for being disgusted with the murderer and the way in which the murderer executed Kirsten in an unprovoked attack, and her remorseless actions after the heinous murder.
Your irrational anger towards strangers on a blog for discussing Bernadette's crime suggests that you sympathize with a murderer, which suggests that there there is something "mentally off" with you. Suggesting that Kirsten played a role in her murder and blaming her parents for her murder on the 1985 ladies Home Journal article, clearly suggests that it is you that is you that has "a serious mental issue" and is the potential danger here.

It has been stated many times on this blog by me or someone else that we do not advocate or condone vigilante justice against Bernadette.

Two blogs?? Are you referring to the rip blog? That has a different moderator.

"I strongly believe it is, you may not realize what you are doing"

It is clear that you don't realize how deluded and sick your comments have portrayed you.

You should conduct a serious self examination to discover why you are so rabidly against those that are disgusted with Bernadette's heinous execution of Kirsten and her remorseless behavior after her brutal murder, why are you victim blaming and suggesting that Kirsten played a role in her murder, why are you blaming her innocent parents for her murder, and why write nine comments of repetitive bilge on this blog which suggests that you sympathize with a murderer?
At September 5, 2016 at 2:21 AM , Karen : ) said...: bbmokc,

No, I'm not Brittany. I have received nine email notifications about your comments and they are generally in support of a murderer. One of your comments actually suggests that you believe that Kirsten played a role in her death and some other comments sympathize with Bernadette, the murderer, yet you have the amusing effrontery to suggest that you think I am ill? You sympathizing with a murderer is as sick as it gets.

Please don't feign ignorance and pretend you have only stumbled on this blog today. We both know that we have conversed with each other on this blog before.

You wrote that you are not invested in any party, yet you suggested in another comment that Kirsten played a role in her murder and you wrote under "the 1985 story posted in the Ladies Home Journal" under "rupual" that Kirsten's parents were to blame for her death. Why are you contradicting yourself? The comments that you have recently written on this blog suggests that you sympathize with Bernadette, a murderer that literally butchered Kirsten to death, you also suggested that Kirsten played a role in her murder and you wrote elsewhere that Kristen's parents were to blame for her murder, so clearly you are "invested in a party". You are an eerie individual with the class and morals of a festering anal wart to blame Kirsten's parents for her murder or to suggest that Kirsten had a role to play in her murder.
At September 6, 2016 at 10:46 AM , Anonymous said...: Bbmok: Purple Haze and Brittany (nope, not her real name) are two different people. Thank you for sharing your opinion. Many people agree with you; they just don't feel compelled to spew on and on about it.
At September 6, 2016 at 11:48 AM , Karen : ) said...: Anonymous, Kirsten has just as many supporters as she has detractors. Or perhaps the point you agreed with is that you think there is something wrong with me, the moderator of the blog or anyone who sympathizes with Kirsten, or is disgusted with Bernadette's brutal murder of Kirsten.

You tend to always come back to a blog that you don't like for the purpose of writing a snarky comment. If you have something to "say", write it. I wouldn't mind engaging in a civil debate with you, not for the purpose of changing your mind, but because I'm very interested in why people could feel sorry for someone who brutally murdered someone else. It is has been made clear from different sources that Bernadette wasn't the socially inept loser misfit with one friend that was portrayed in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader", so why do you feel sympathy for her? Perhaps I'm wasting my time even asking you.
At September 7, 2016 at 8:35 AM , Anonymous said...: You are stupid to think that you might get a sensible answer from "Anonymous".
At September 7, 2016 at 6:56 PM , Anonymous said...: Purple Haze-it's obvious that new person is just trolling, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't either Bernie or one of her family members. Don't let them get to you.

The comment they made on that other sight only shows how much of idiot they are.
At September 7, 2016 at 7:01 PM , Anonymous said...: And I love it when people come here and say that others feel the same as they do. I'd like to know where they are meeting all these other people. Is there some online forum for defenders of Bernie the killer? Or are these other people imaginary supporters in their twisted little brains.

I posted on a nursing forum a while back about her and most of the nurses were flabbergasted that she was now a licensed RN and said they wouldn't want her taking care of them. Her defenders are few and far between.
At September 9, 2016 at 3:33 PM , Karen : ) said...: Thank you, Susan.

I wouldn't let someone like that get to me. The person is clearly missing something and possesses absolutely no degree of self awareness. To suggest that a murder victim played a role in her murder and then to state that the murder victim's parents were to blame for her murder clearly conveys a twisted, vile disposition. I almost feel sorry for such a hateful person. Almost.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a supporter. Even Ted Bundy had supporters, so it wouldn't surprise me if Bernadette had deranged supporters that comment here. I actually find it interesting to read their comments because we can gain some insight into the distorted mindset of someone so twisted.
At September 9, 2016 at 3:45 PM , Karen : ) said...: Susan,

"And I love it when people come here and say that others feel the same as they do"

I agree. I thought that was a very deluded statement. However, one can hardly expect a murderer supporter to be rational.

I don't know if you've noticed or not, but Anonymous tends to come back here every know and then and usually writes a silly comment and then slinks off with her tail between her legs if she is addressed.
At September 9, 2016 at 3:50 PM , Karen : ) said...: * every now and then, not every know and then *
At September 9, 2016 at 9:16 PM , Anonymous said...: LOL. I wonder who "anonymous" really is.
At September 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM , Sheryl said...: She has the exact same birthdate as my younger sister. 7-23-1968. My sister has had children, grandchildren and is really enjoying her life, really wish Kirsten would have had that chance.
At September 12, 2016 at 6:23 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan.

I don't know who she is. However, I know why she keeps coming back. It's as obvious as Jeannette Tomanka's fake household tips FB page. She loves the blog and reading our comments clearly fills her with jubilant ecstasy. I can picture her sitting in front of her computer...... anxiously awaiting an update or new comments and when a new comment is published, her eyes widen with excitement, she drools with euphoric delight and wets herself with glee. Bless her.
At September 12, 2016 at 6:27 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Sheryl

Yes, it's sad that that was stolen from Kirsten and her family.
At September 15, 2016 at 2:42 PM , Sheryl said...: I agree Purple haze...
At September 16, 2016 at 6:13 PM , Anonymous said...: How come on her Facebook page of life hacks it says there are at least a dozen comments and you can never see any? If she was deleting them wouldn't the comment notification disappear? That page is so weird and that still sticks out
At September 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM , Karen : ) said...: That is the sort of thing that will make people suspicious.
At September 18, 2016 at 8:54 PM , Anonymous said...: I was thinking, do you think Bernie is actually the little Susie Homemaker she claims to be on her blog and FB page?
At September 19, 2016 at 12:51 PM , Sheryl said...: Found the movie on youtube and just thought of something. How things may have turned out different if Kirsten had a key to her house. It seems strange to me that at 15 she would not have one or maybe she just didn't want to be alone.
At September 19, 2016 at 6:20 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan.

I don't think she is. Perhaps she thinks that her blog/FB page will present her as a wholesome run of the mill God fearing mother and housewife. The lack of interaction on her FB just draws attention to her and only confirms that it's just for show. Judging from how generic her FB is, she clearly has no interest in it and probably feels resentfully obligated to answer people in order to keep up the "Suzy Homemaker" façade. I'm sure she will keep running it out of defiance with a middle finger to other websites that discuss her and discuss the fact that she wasn't some bullied hard - done by doe eyed little lamb that was "pushed to her limit".
At September 19, 2016 at 6:37 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Sheryl,

I don't know. When I was a teen there were many times when I absent-mindedly ran out of the house without my key. It happens. Perhaps Kirsten ran out of her house without a key. There are so many "what ifs" in this tragic case.

"Or maybe she just didn't want to be alone"

I don't know. She didn't know who she was going to be alone with, though.
At September 22, 2016 at 4:22 PM , Anonymous said...: I never has a key when I was a teen, the door was left unlocked for us kids. Risky business when I think of it now.

What gets me about her FB page Purple is all the sayings she posts about forgiveness. Why doesn't she try asking her parents for forgiveness. Let's see how that one works out.
At September 23, 2016 at 6:35 PM , Anonymous said...: Hi Susan,

I think the purpose of the psalms and platitudes she publishes on her FB is to give the impression that she is a God fearing virtuous woman.

"Why doesn't she try asking her parents for forgiveness"

Bernadette's parents or Kirsten's parents?
At September 23, 2016 at 6:58 PM , Anonymous said...: Her heart is a rotten void of darkness and delusion.
At September 28, 2016 at 6:53 AM , Anonymous said...: Anonymous, I've seen plenty of support for Kirsten.
At October 2, 2016 at 12:26 PM , Anonymous said...: Kirstin's parents.
At October 4, 2016 at 2:04 PM , Anonymous said...: Bbmokc,or may I say. Bernadette, or Virginia, Bernadette stalked her first boyfriend at age 16, he saw her obsessive behavior, and got rid of her, and she met a guy through prison while incarcerated and made a scene with him there, cussing him and accussing him of cheating, Bernadette is unstable, I dont care how much she s changed, she still is a weirdo and. Kirsten spotted it. Why dont you focus on the real victims here Kirsten, and her family. Everyday. Mrs. Costas, her husband, abd. Son wake up to a horrible event they will live with the rest of thier lives. You ever lost a child? I did I lost mine to a shooting drug deal gone bad 10 years ago, I lost parent's as well, my. Sons was the worst. Only child raising his daughter, I had plans for him to take care of me and bury me. This blog is similar to my experience, there is nothing worse than a childs death, how dare you to defend. Bernadette,I feel the pain of. Mrs. Costas. I lived through and went through her experience, sought coubseling, due to suicidal thoughts, severe depression, so how dare you.
At October 4, 2016 at 2:07 PM , Anonymous said...: Bbmokc,or may I say. Bernadette, or Virginia, Bernadette stalked her first boyfriend at age 16, he saw her obsessive behavior, and got rid of her, and she met a guy through prison while incarcerated and made a scene with him there, cussing him and accussing him of cheating, Bernadette is unstable, I dont care how much she s changed, she still is a weirdo and. Kirsten spotted it. Why dont you focus on the real victims here Kirsten, and her family. Everyday. Mrs. Costas, her husband, abd. Son wake up to a horrible event they will live with the rest of thier lives. You ever lost a child? I did I lost mine to a shooting drug deal gone bad 10 years ago, I lost parent's as well, my. Sons was the worst. Only child raising his daughter, I had plans for him to take care of me and bury me. This blog is similar to my experience, there is nothing worse than a childs death, how dare you to defend. Bernadette,I feel the pain of. Mrs. Costas. I lived through and went through her experience, sought coubseling, due to suicidal thoughts, severe depression, so how dare you.
At October 4, 2016 at 2:14 PM , Anonymous said...: To bad Bernadette wasnt tied up and horsewhipped serverly at her trial one thousand lashes with razors and nails to strip off ger skin. Thats what she needed. Bbmokc, If I was her judge, Id ordered it done to her.
At October 6, 2016 at 6:38 PM , Anonymous said...: Her friend who went to trial with her, she's no better than you Bbmok. She told a Orinda mom she was good friends with. Bernadette, she deserved to be shunned by the community as well as. Bernadette. I kind of got the impression that her friend was finally ran out if. Miramonte, aa well as the other 2. She became a social outcast, and, could'nt figure out why. There is consequences for our choices we make, and actions we take, ypu murder you will always be a villain, and a outcast. You defend a murderer, you become a social out cast, and people will hate your guts. So her friend she just saw the best in. Bernadette, I understand, but, like. I said, there s consequences for choices you make. She is'nt a murderer, but she defended one.
At October 10, 2016 at 5:39 AM , Sassygurl said...: Well, it seems to me that a lot of Bernie supporters have trolled this blog numerous times! I guess that are looking to argue with their snarky, classless, vile comments! I AM A KIRSTEN SUPPORTER! I honestly don't believe any of the crap that Bernadette said, I believe she planned to kill Kirsten, after all she tried to say Kirsten smoked pot. In the autopsy report it said there was no sign of marijuana and if you smoke it then it usually stays in your system for a month or however long! Jeannette was just looking for a reason to try and justify what she did and still does up to this day, I don't believe a word she said on the case. Bernadette/ Jeannette's father said Bernadette was in counseling just prior to the murder so that gives indication of something was wrong with her mentally from the start and she should have gotten help or went to a rehab far before she hurt someone, I don't think people like her should be in society where she could possibly lash out and kill yet another innocent person. This is still tragic and mind boggling even 32 years after.
At October 11, 2016 at 8:07 AM , Anonymous said...: People who say stop bringing up her past mistakes, well murder is very serious, tell the. Costas's its a past mistake, that wont bring. Kirsten back. This is so far more than a mistake, not even in the same category. People say stop bringing up her past and let her live a normal life, she wants a normal life, she should of acted normal to start with, she dont want her past brought up, she should of thought about that before she murdered. There s consequences to our actions. Her bff if she didnt want to be shunned by.the community, she should of kepr her nose out of it, and stayed at home, instead of in court supporting a murderer. Also told people of her community today still shun her, and wont talk to her. Again there's consequences to our decissions we make, you stick up for a murderer you will be labeled an outcast in society. If it was my friend Bernadette murdeted, I would never accept her, or anyone who supported her, some things you cant be sorry for, all the remorse Bernadette has in the world will never being back. Kirsten. She allowed 2 innocent girls to take tge blame, sure as.long as it isnt her and she can continue popularity with the. Bobbies. She d probaly never of confessed if it weren't for the. FBI. She d. allowed them ro go to prison, better rhem than her, So her bff got tge same treatment as the other 2 and she was innocent, no once again, she supported a murderer, thats not innocent, and thats exactly how she was ran out of. Miramonte and most hated as well as. Bernadette, all over a dumb choice to support her, have no sympathy for her either, birds of a feather flock togetherm
At October 11, 2016 at 9:10 AM , Anonymous said...: KEEP BERNADETTE S BFF OUT OF THIS. SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS. COMMUNITY S PROBLEM IF THEY SHUN HER, SHE'S THE NICEST GRL AROUND KRIS Is. THE COMMUNITIES LOSS. SHE IS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. SHE HAS MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT BERNADETTE. SHE HASNT SEEN OR SPOKE TO BERNADETTE IN YEARS AND YEARS.
At October 11, 2016 at 9:13 AM , Anonymous said...: HER NAME IS KRIS JOHNSON, SHE'S WONDERFUL.
At October 11, 2016 at 9:21 AM , Anonymous said...: I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT BERNADETTE DID, JUST DONT DRAG KRIS INTO THIS ANYMORE. FOCUS ON BERNADETTE.
At October 11, 2016 at 10:43 AM , Anonymous said...: I don't know whether or not you're friends with her and I highly doubt that you are, but no-one has mentioned the friend's name but you. If you were really her friend, why would you mention her name? Wouldn't you want to protect her anonymity? Clearly the girl you mentioned wasn't all that nice when she stated that she didn't give a shit that her friend slaughtered Kirsten. However, she was a child then and children say stupid, callous, thoughtless things at times. "Anonymous" above didn't mention her name either, so there was no need for you to mention her name at all.
At October 11, 2016 at 12:12 PM , Anonymous said...: YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HER. SHE NEVER SAID ANYTHING AS SUCH ABOUT NOT GIVING A CRAP. YOU DONT KNOW HER RECENT LAST NAME,AND I SAW THE ABOVE COMMENTS ON THE GIRL WHO SUPPORTED HER AT HER TRIAL.
At October 11, 2016 at 12:34 PM , Anonymous said...: HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SAID? WERE YOU THERE? I ONLY GAVE AN OLD LAST NAME. MANY KRIS JOHNSON S IN THE BAY AREA. THATS NO LONG Er HER LAST NAME. I WAS.UPSET CAUSE.SHE WAS IN THIS CONVERSATION.
At October 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM , Anonymous said...: Anonymous above.only person taljed about her is ypu. I did'nt know her name, nor, did. I care to. Like the otger anonymous said, you gave her name away, think you're good friend would appreciate that, telling the world her real name''. I woukd be mad if. I were her, for announcing to the world who shw is, she don't want her bussiness displayed to the world. Are you a friend really? If you are, you're a dumb one, if. I were that girl, Id unfriend you, and find a friend who has more sense, obviously ypu're lacking that.
At October 11, 2016 at 4:49 PM , Anonymous said...: How do I know?

She said it in an interview. A friend wouldn't reveal her name, old name or not. Also, her married name can be discovered because you thoughtlessly revealed her old surname.

I know you're trolling, but you're coming across as unstable.

"AND I SAW THE ABOVE COMMENTS ON THE GIRL WHO SUPPORTED HER AT HER TRIAL"

And? Her name wasn't mentioned. You are very silly.
At October 12, 2016 at 12:06 AM , Anonymous said...: What if KJ is bbmokc :O? dun-dun-dunnnn!
At October 12, 2016 at 7:05 AM , Anonymous said...: Anonymous (capital letters) calm your tits.
At October 12, 2016 at 10:05 AM , Anonymous said...: I seriously doubt this person even know's. KJ or whoever, we had bozo's on here who claimed to be. Bernadette, a classmate of. Kirsten, and Bernadette, and one lunatic got on here and said she was in love with Bernadette, and called a sandwich, a. Kirsten sandwich, another talked about that silly reunion. just a bunch of stupid stuff, its all a bunch of BS to me. Now its a friend of. KJs doubt she or he, know's KJ or she'd kept her anoymous. I wouldn't give out my friends nane, just some attention seeking drama queen to me.
At October 12, 2016 at 10:09 AM , Anonymous said...: I seriously doubt this person even know's. KJ or whoever, we had bozo's on here who claimed to be. Bernadette, a classmate of. Kirsten, and Bernadette, and one lunatic got on here and said she was in love with Bernadette, and called a sandwich, a. Kirsten sandwich, another talked about that silly reunion. just a bunch of stupid stuff, its all a bunch of BS to me. Now its a friend of. KJs doubt she or he, know's KJ or she'd kept her anoymous. I wouldn't give out my friends nane, just some attention seeking drama queen to me.
At October 12, 2016 at 7:59 PM , Anonymous said...: Either go to specsavers or stop typing with your feet.
At October 17, 2016 at 2:15 PM , Anonymous said...: You dont know this KJ,and, you know it. You knew Kirsten, Bernadette, student at Miramonte, now you're friends with her BFF. Who will it be next? Woman with many fantasies, and a great imagination.
At October 18, 2016 at 4:55 PM , Karen : ) said...: Enough about that nonsense.
At October 20, 2016 at 7:47 PM , Anonymous said...: This and Missy Avila's murder were committed by psychopaths. They never change and one day something is going to set them off and we'll have more dead bodies. Both cases were premeditated and they should have gotten the death penalty or at least life with no parole.
At October 21, 2016 at 11:58 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan. I missed your above comment about Bernadette apologizing.
Apologizing to Kirsten's parents would mean that Bernadette expressed genuine remorse for her heinous behaviour, which sociopaths like her are incapable of.
At October 21, 2016 at 12:03 PM , Karen : ) said...: Are teenagers given life without parole in the States? It's a shame she didn't get a sufficient sentence for such a brutal murder.
At October 29, 2016 at 3:30 PM , Anonymous said...: No, but they should in cases like this.
At October 31, 2016 at 9:57 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan. I suppose she is lucky she was born in California. I read about two girls in Wisconsin who attempted to kill their friend when they were both 12 and are now facing a very lengthy spell behind bars (45 years). Luckily the friend they tried to kill recovered.
At November 3, 2016 at 7:55 AM , Unknown said...: Yeah, you're not going to get away with that crap scot-free in the Midwest or the South. We have better sense here. The coastal states are another story.
At November 10, 2016 at 7:23 AM , Unknown said...: Just had to add, Kirsten was a gorgeous girl! Sounds like she was fun, too. So sad.
At November 10, 2016 at 6:33 PM , Karen : ) said...: It looks like she smiled from her eyes which is very sweet. It is so sad.
At November 11, 2016 at 8:16 AM , Anonymous said...: The full length picture of Kirsten on a different website with her hair tied back and wearing a windbreaker is beautiful.
At November 17, 2016 at 8:01 PM , Anonymous said...: I wonder though, if the murder had happened today would she have been tried as a juvie.
At November 20, 2016 at 1:25 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

It really looks like Kirsten's murder was premeditated and that the prosecutor botched the case.

"California law pursuant to Welfare & Institutions Code Section 602 (b) requires that a minor at least 14 years of age or older must be tried as an adult for murder with special circumstances if the prosecutor alleges that the minor personally killed the victim."

"At worst, a minor adjudicated in juvenile court faces being committed to the California Department of Corrections, Division of Juvenile Facilities (formerly known as the California Youth Authority or “CYA”) until the age of 25.
However, a minor tried in adult court may be sentenced like any other adult, up to and including life in prison without the possibility of parole, depending on the seriousness of the crime.
A minor may not be sentenced to death under any circumstances."

Bernadette's crime was certainly serious enough to warrant a sentence of life in prison.
At November 20, 2016 at 3:34 PM , Anonymous said...: well, all we have it Bernie's word that it wasn't premeditated and I don't take much stock in that.

I just read that ID has a new series about the 80's and this murder will be on it. Hopefully it's not whitewashed to make HER look like the victim. I wonder how she feels about shows like this bringing up her past.
At November 21, 2016 at 1:53 PM , Anonymous said...: Can't wait for the special will they mention her new name??
At November 22, 2016 at 7:12 AM , Anonymous said...: I saw the promo for it last night! I can't wait to see it.
At November 22, 2016 at 8:20 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

Thanks for letting the blog know about the ID series. Someone else on the blog was also kind enough to inform people about the upcoming documentary.

" Hopefully it's not whitewashed to make HER look like the victim"

As I wrote elsewhere: I read a short synopsis about the documentary on a website and the description for the episode was disappointing, but maybe the documentary won't be that bad.

The synopsis:

It was suggested that Kirsten and Bernadette were rivals which doesn't appear to have been the case. (According to Bernadette and Kirsten's mutual friend, Bernadette looked up to Kirsten and idolised her)

Bernadette was a "bobbie wannabe" (She was a bobbie, so he wasn't a bobbie wannabe. She was a "cheerleader wannabe")

The bobbies ruled the school (I don't know whether or not that was true.)

Bernadette was a very jealous person (true. she admitted it herself)

Pressure to "fit in" and "look a certain way", but didn't emphasize that Bernadette was very sick and her reaction to Kirsten was extreme and abnormal.

The last point: "the pressure to "fit in" and look "a certain way" is universal and is/was not unique to Miramonte and Orinda, and it certainly should not be used as a scapegoat to explain away Bernadette's dangerous mental instability and inferiority complex.
I lived in two different countries when I was a teenager (one was literally on the other side of the world from the other -- southern hemisphere to northern hemisphere) and "fitting in" and "looking a certain way" was also something teenagers went through and do you know how many people murdered someone else as a result of it? 0!

" I wonder how she feels about shows like this bringing up her past."

If Bernadette was able to block out the fact that she viciously murdered Kirsten to the point that she was not able to only go on with her life, but was able to have conversations about Kirsten's murder in class with Kirsten's friends, was able to watch as two girls got the blame for murdering Kirsten and was also able to attend Kirsten's funeral and look at Kirsten's family knowing she was responsible for their pain, I'm sure she can block out the fact that "shows like this bring up her past".
At November 22, 2016 at 8:21 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Laur,

They can't reveal her new name.
At November 22, 2016 at 12:41 PM , Karen : ) said...: *If Bernadette was able to block out the fact that she viciously murdered Kirsten to the point that she was not ONLY able to only go on with her life.........etv
At November 23, 2016 at 12:50 AM , Karen : ) said...: Susan,

Did you watch landscape suicide (1986), which is a re-enactment of Bernadette's FBI interview?
At November 23, 2016 at 12:51 AM , Karen : ) said...: Were people aware that this case apparently influenced the movie, Heathers (1988)?? I wasn't aware of that.
At November 23, 2016 at 10:31 AM , Anonymous said...: Orinda Woman, Convicted in 1984 Murder, Is Free on Parole

By Martin Halstuk - The San Francisco Chronicle

June 26, 1992

Bernadette Protti, the socially spurned Orinda teenager who was driven by resentment and envy to kill a popular high school classmate eight years ago, has been freed on parole and is believed to have left California.

Protti, now 23, was sentenced in 1985 to nine years under the jurisdiction of the California Youth Authority for fatally stabbing 15- year-old cheerleader Kirsten Costas with a kitchen knife in June 1984. She served less than eight years of her sentence.

Although one parole examiner described Protti as dangerous and possessing ''a hidden trigger that anyone can pull,'' the state Youthful Offender Parole Board released her on June 10 in a 2-to-1 decision at CYA's Ventura School near Camarillo in Ventura County.

Costas and Protti were students at Miramonte High School in Orinda when the murder occurred. Police had no suspect for nearly six months until Protti -- who was one of the mourners at the girl's funeral -- turned herself in.

At two previous parole hearings, the victim's parents, Arthur and Berit Costas, vehemently opposed Protti's release.

The couple, who now live in Hawaii, told parole examiners that Protti might be deceiving prison authorities into thinking she is rehabilitated, just as she deceived her family and friends for six months after the killing. Instead of attending this latest hearing, they sent a videotape in which they urged the parole board not to release their daughter's killer.

Interviewed by phone at his home in Honolulu, Arthur Costas said last night that he was disheartened by Protti's release.

''From a victim's standpoint, the punishment doesn't even begin to equate to the magnitude of the crime,'' said Costas. He said he resented a justice system that placed Protti in a facility where she could have a boyfriend and complete her high school education -- opportunities that were denied his daughter.

''You can't replace your child so you think about that all the time,'' said Costas, who said that he worries that Protti remains dangerous to the public. ''The emotions and the public safety -- we lose on both counts.''

Protti's early release was recommended by parole board member Jamie Bailey and hearing officer Sergio Gomez, who wrote in their majority opinion that she ''no longer present(s) an immediate threat to society.''

But in his dissent, released to The Chronicle by the parole board, board member Victor Wisehart wrote that Costas' killer ''remains a danger to the public and is in need of further treatment to address her inability to control her anger and impulses.''

Wisehart referred to a recent incident during which Protti demonstrated ''anger and a lack of impulse control'' in a confrontation with her boyfriend at the Youth Authority school.

''I hate to think how she would have handled the incident had she been on parole and able to arm herself and stalk again another victim,'' Wisehart said.

''She has a hidden trigger that anyone can pull just by not giving (her) what she thinks she should get in a relationship.''

A CYA spokesman said Protti has left the state but would not say where.

During the trial in Contra Costa County Superior Court in Martinez, testimony revealed that Protti craved social acceptance and resented Kirsten's popularity and success.

The evidence included a tearful confession to police in which Protti said she felt inferior to the socially active Costas.

Protti also said that she was embarrassed that her family did not have as much money as other Orindans and said that Costas had made fun of her ''crummy'' skis on a ski trip once.
At November 23, 2016 at 10:31 AM , Anonymous said...: Protti was convicted of second- degree murder after a much publicized three-day trial that Superior Court Judge Edward Merrill said ''smacked of entertainment.''

The judge rejected prosecutor John Oda's arguments for first-degree murder. Oda said that Protti -- suffering from the rejection of her peers -- had acted with ''premeditation and wanton disregard for human life.''

Like all female juveniles convicted of serious crimes, she was sent to the Youth Authority's Ventura School.

According to the CYA, Protti has earned her high school diploma with a 4.0 average and has taken enough courses through a local community college to qualify for an associate in arts degree.
At November 24, 2016 at 9:36 AM , Anonymous said...: The following is a preview for the ID special on this case: http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/the-1980s-the-deadliest-decade/
At November 26, 2016 at 8:24 PM , Anonymous said...: I have ID and caught up some of the shows on Thanksgiving. They had previews. It is ON DEMAND on Comcast so I will watch a week from tomorrow with my sister when she comes to visit.
At November 27, 2016 at 11:35 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

I would like to hear (read) your opinion about the documentary when you have watched it because I may not be able to watch it unless it is uploaded to YT. Judging from the preview, it doesn't look like it's going to be objective. I wish Nancy well.

I hope you enjoyed Thanksgiving.

All the best.
At November 28, 2016 at 4:29 PM , Sheryl said...: Purple haze, you might be able to watch it here after it airs.....http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/the-1980s-the-deadliest-decade/
At November 29, 2016 at 5:12 AM , Anonymous said...: I thought the show was good but didn't focus as much on Bernie until near the end. I would have been nice if they would have added she is now living in Texas with two children and is a blogger lol
At November 29, 2016 at 8:26 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Sheryl,

Thank you, but I don't think it will work. I tried to open the other documentary beside it and it wouldn't allow "my country" access. I would love to hear your opinion on it when you have the time. All the best.
At November 29, 2016 at 8:49 AM , Sheryl said...: Hi Purple Haze. Sorry about you not having access and I'm sure it will be uploaded to you tube soon. I actually thought it was a very good show. The one thing that didn't ring true to me is that Nancy Kane said that they were all friends in Junior High, including Bernadette. It's my understanding that she actually went to a private school until entering a public High School. I could be wrong but from what we know Bernadette was not close friends with Kirsten. There was a lot of never before seen photos...mostly of Kirsten's parents and they showed the clip of her parents talking to the media before school resumed. Her poor Mother just looked broken, devastated. There was video/slash pics of Bernadette being led into the courtroom and courtroom photos I have never seen. They also alluded that she brought the knife with her but later mentioned her sister testified she could have left it in the car. We all know this is bogus. Out of the three shows that have covered this crime, I thought this one was the best.
At November 29, 2016 at 9:11 AM , Karen : ) said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At November 29, 2016 at 9:13 AM , Karen : ) said...: Sheryl,

Thank you for your summary of the documentary. I really appreciate it. So Kirsten wasn't ridiculously vilified then?
At November 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM , Karen : ) said...: Sorry Laur, I didn't notice that Sherly had already explained the documentary above my comment. All the best.
At November 29, 2016 at 9:35 AM , Sheryl said...: I wouldn't say that she was vilified but that she did have issues of insecurity and she looked at Kirsten and felt like a failure. One thing they said was that Bernadette was popular, only she couldn't see it. I can't wait for them to upload this to youtube so you can see it. They did show Bernie in the car with a knife in a paper bag and said she came prepared if something went wrong.
At November 29, 2016 at 9:42 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Sheryl,

Thanks again for your explanation. So Kirsten wasn't vilified? That's great.

"One thing they said was that Bernadette was popular, only she couldn't see it"

Exactly. From what I have read she was indeed a fairly popular girl.

"They did show Bernie in the car with a knife in a paper bag and said she came prepared if something went wrong"

Wow. That's exactly what I and others on this blog thought. She came prepared. How on earth was she just charged with second degree murder and why wasn't she given a proper sentence. It's just not fair. How terrible for the Costas'

Thanks again.
At November 29, 2016 at 9:51 AM , Anonymous said...: I have to agree, I found it quite off how they made it to be like they were all bff's. If they were such good friends, I doubt she would have made fun of her. I always thought they ran in different circles except for being in the bobolinks.
At November 29, 2016 at 10:13 AM , Sheryl said...: I agree Laur that they ran in different circles with Kirsten in the elite group even though Bernadette was well liked. She was moving up if she got into the Bobolinks, that was her step into the group she wanted in with and she considered Kirsten the queen.
At November 29, 2016 at 10:19 AM , Sheryl said...: Purple Haze, No, Kirsten was not vilified in my opinion. She really was portrayed as the victim that she was. Of course we know that Nancy didn't like her and there was another woman on there that was a classmate that said Kirsten had a dismissive attitude at times but so do I if I'm irritated. lol. I was very happy that they said she brought that knife. If this would have happened within the last 10 to 15 years she probably would have been tried as an adult. I think back in 1984, they could not imagine a teen killing a classmate much less a female and in their community it was unthinkable. I think that's why she spent very little time but that is only my opinion. My younger sister was born on the exact same date and year as Kirsten and it just breaks my heart that her life was snuffed out.
At November 29, 2016 at 10:44 AM , Anonymous said...: I'll have to watch it tonight on the computer before I go to bed.
At November 29, 2016 at 2:24 PM , Anonymous said...: The ID docu is now on YouTube for those who wish to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7YGKlLTf78
At November 29, 2016 at 2:30 PM , Sheryl said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At November 29, 2016 at 5:57 PM , Anonymous said...: I agree with Sheryl that the documentary was good and that Kirsten was not vilified. I also was perplexed by what Nancy said about Bernadette and Kirsten being friends before high school. I thought they went to different schools. What this documentary spoke to in my mind was how powerful being wealthy and confident was in Orinda. I can tell you I went to high school in the 80s and there were no such things as Bobolinks and sorority like groups where I grew up. We had plenty of sports and activities such as yearbook etc and I knew so many kids who wanted to be popular but folks in Orinda stepped it up a few notches. Clearly, the pressure was on and the divide created for those kids to be the best and popular. That said, no excuse for what happened and all in all so many people hurt in the process. I pray for all who were affected. High school can be a difficult time for kids without this kind of tragedy. Now add the stress of a murder, being questioned by police, accused and scorned by classmates. Wow! Also, what I took from the documentary is that one does not pick up a knife and stab someone without being in a state of rage. That rage comes from somewhere, a deep hurt. I wonder if her feelings for Kirsten were perhaps more than that of a friend. In the 80s that was taboo and in a town like Orinda, she'd be the girl scorned. So sad all the way around.
At November 30, 2016 at 6:48 AM , Anonymous said...: I guess I was lucky. I grew up a few years younger than Bernadette but pretty much same time period. We lived in small town and a few people had money but it was no way like Orinda. People were always mean to each other but I can't imagine this extreme.
At November 30, 2016 at 3:19 PM , Anonymous said...: It's been blocked on youtube due to copyright reasons.
At December 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM , Anonymous said...: So, I watched it today. I thought 2 students were picked on, not just Nancy. Also, I wasn't aware they were all friends at one time and Bernadette was in that popular crowd that Kirsten was part of. I don't think this show got some of the facts right. It was okay IMO.
At December 4, 2016 at 10:44 PM , Anonymous said...: I seen the documentary on investigation discovery channel and my opinion is none other that Bernadette was completely out of by how many times she stabbed Kirsten and like me and others on here believe that it was premeditated. The way I see it that she said something out of the way to Kirsten and the fact that she used a phony invitation in order to lurk Kirsten out of the house under false pretenses and when she didn't get the reaction she wanted from Kirsten then something in bernadette's twisted mind caused her to lash out and then she killed Kirsten and the only thing on the menu that night was murder.
At December 4, 2016 at 10:49 PM , Anonymous said...: She was out of control and the phony hobbies invitation dinner was to lure Kirsten out of the house. Bernadette had the knife where it was in arms reach where she could grab it when Kirsten turned her down on her really weird suggestions!
At December 5, 2016 at 2:33 PM , Anonymous said...: For Pete's sake, proofread your crap before you post it.
At December 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM , Anonymous said...: You know, I just thought of something. Her sister Virginia was a law student at the time, right? I'm sure she knew that if she got on the stand and said the knife could have been hers would have planted enough reasonable doubt in the mind of the judge for him to think it wasn't premeditated. I'm sure it was though.
At December 6, 2016 at 11:35 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

Thanks for the link to the documentary.
At December 6, 2016 at 11:54 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

I think the documentary was far more objective than the other documentaries. I agree that it was okay.

"Also, I wasn't aware they were all friends at one time and Bernadette was in that popular crowd that Kirsten was part of"

Yes, some details were confusing. However, Nancy and Kirsten probably were probably friendly at some point. Nancy said she met Bernadette through Catechism classes and they were on friendly terms, not that they necessarily socialised with each other, or maybe I got that wrong.

What size was the knife? Was it 12inch, 15inch or 18inch? The documentary stated it was 12inch. Other sources have stated it was either 15 inch or 18inch.

I felt really sorry for Kirsten's parents. I know it's difficult to ascertain what a person is like from a few mins of footage, but Kirsten's parents really did come across as gentle, unassuming people as opposed to the haughty way they were portrayed in the movie (not that I took the movie seriously).

The documentary intimated that Bernadette brought the knife.

No, I think it was another sister. Actually, it was reported that Bernadette's parents contacted their daughter in law school before bringing Bernadette to the police station.
The sister that went on the stand is so lucky she wasn't charged with perjury.
At December 6, 2016 at 11:54 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Laur,

"People were always mean to each other but I can't imagine this extreme"

What does that mean?
At December 6, 2016 at 12:02 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Sheryl,

Thank you for your input.

"I think back in 1984, they could not imagine a teen killing a classmate much less a female and in their community it was unthinkable"

Yes, their community appeared to be sort of sheltered and idyllic. Even if it did happen in a community besieged by crime, it was still shocking. Kirsten's wounds were sickening.
At December 6, 2016 at 5:01 PM , Anonymous said...: For pete sake virgina or nernie i kno its u because you are a lama and lamas dont hav periods
At December 6, 2016 at 5:20 PM , Anoynomus said...: Be quiet you won't feel like that if it was you family... She doesn't deserve to live in peace and kids should know mom is a monster
At December 6, 2016 at 5:21 PM , Anoynomus said...: Be quiet you won't feel like that if it was you family... She doesn't deserve to live in peace and kids should know mom is a monster
At December 6, 2016 at 8:27 PM , Anonymous said...: Their community was like every other affluent one. Crime NEVER happened there, it always happened somewhere else. Domestic violence is also pretty much hushed up in those communities as is child abuse. It was all about their little niche in the world and nothing from outside touched them. I saw it when I grew up in the 60's and 70's and it became worse in the 80's because people were more wealthy. Heck, you could say the general area where I grew up in the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago was an affluent area. I saw it at my high school.

The same goes on today.
At December 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM , Unknown said...: Hello to you all this is Kelsi. I have posted on her you tube channel. I can see why Kirsten thought of her as weird because what kind of person makes fake invites just to spend time with a person. I would have to think it was something more bernadette thought of in her sick twisted mind but I guess we will never know but I just wish that Kirsten would have made it. I just want all the jeannette supporters to stop and think about what she did to Kirsten. She thought of all of the details beforehand and she took the knife with her in regards to killing Kirsten and their was no other explanation. As purple haze said the sister should have been charged with perjury because she lied on the stand. One other thing is she is still the same sick person she was 32 years ago when she viciously killed Kirsten in cold blood.
At December 6, 2016 at 11:15 PM , Unknown said...: She is sick because she refers to herself as a lifehacker in regards to making fun of killing Kirsten. I can't believe she is out and free to live her life and enjoy it while Kirsten has been gone for the past 32 years and it's like people try to make her out to be some snob who didn't care about others but made bernadette out to be some poor Sap that everyone tracked over! Kirsten was 15 and she had her whole life ahead of her and jeannette took that from her. Rest in peace beautiful Kirsten may you be forever in all of our hearts!!!
At December 7, 2016 at 6:12 AM , Anonymous said...: To me an extreme would be stabbing or hurting someone! A lot of people "lose it" but boy that is very disturbing...
At December 8, 2016 at 3:33 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

I didn't mean to give the impression that I thought Orinda was an idyllic Utopian community that was populated with "Leave it to Beaver" type families. I admire that the crime rate was so low, though.

" Domestic violence is also pretty much hushed up in those communities as is child abuse"

I'm sure that was the case in many communities in the 60's 70's, particularly religious communities (For example, Catholics).

"The same goes on today"

I'm sure it does, not just in affluent communities. However, I do get your point.
At December 8, 2016 at 3:36 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Laur,

Yes, it was a highly abnormal reaction.
At December 18, 2016 at 10:18 PM , Anonymous said...: If you had known either girl, you would understand! It was devastating to us and Bernadette was wrong. Something evil was in her and she did not pay NEARLY ENOUGH!
At December 19, 2016 at 6:06 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

What comment are you referring to? The last number of comments are supportive of Kirsten, so what is it that people don't understand?
At December 21, 2016 at 1:25 PM , Unknown said...: This is such a terrible tragedy. I just saw the ID show on this. They made it seem like Kirsten and Bernadette were pretty close and ran in the same circle.
I wonder what was said in that car to make Kirsten run out for help. My feeling is that Bernadette was obsessed with her and had planned to try and get closer to Kirsten. I'm sure whatever she was doing or saying was very bizarre and Kirsten wanted to get away.
Bernadette should have been convicted of 1st degree murder. There was a certain degree of premeditation. I don't think Bernadette had planned to lure her and just kill her. BUT she planned to kill her if whatever she said to Kirsten, didn't go over well. What a troubled person. My heart breaks for Kirsten's family. No justice was served here. 7 years?? That's a slap on the wrist for Bernadette and a slap in the face for the Costas'.
At December 24, 2016 at 12:38 AM , tazlover0127 said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At December 24, 2016 at 1:01 AM , tazlover0127 said...: I just discovered this forum and It seems everyone here has lost sight of the fact that a young girl lost her life very senselessly I might add but i think dwelling on the person who murdered her is not the way to honor and remember your friend it is not the way to heal yourself either. You should be posting about kristen and the good things you remember her for If the girl who did this truly has no remorse as I suspect she doesn't based on her conduct after the crime was committed all youre doing is shining a spotlight on her and if she is a sociopath or a psychopath you are giving her what she wants ATTENTION as a person who lost their mother to murder and watched the girl who did it get 3 years (she was under 21 the judge didn't want to ruin her life) suspended after 90 days I know how it feels to not get justice but I truly believe that karma has a way of catching up with everyone. So my advice live your life remember your friend and all the good things about her not the tragic way she died. Trust me her murderer will be judged
At December 24, 2016 at 7:44 PM , Anonymous said...: She was a soul less bitch from what I saw in the movie she was a bully
At December 24, 2016 at 8:01 PM , Anonymous said...: It was loosely based on Kirsten. It was a movie, not real life. It's not a good idea to criticize a murder victim because of a one sided movie that was loosely based her and her murderer. It doesn't make you look very smart and I'm sure you are a much better and smarter person than your comment suggests. Merry Christmas.
At December 24, 2016 at 11:46 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan.

"It seems everyone here has lost sight of the fact that a young girl lost her life very senselessly"

No, I don't agree.

This is a blog that discusses the case and supports Kirsten, the victim, who is still being cruelly vilified 30+ years after her death. People discuss this case in an attempt to try and make sense of such a senseless, savage and tragic crime. The questions this case raises: How did Bernadette get away with it for as long as she did considering the very clear description of the murderer? Why was Bernadette's alibi not checked out? What induced Bernadette’s murderous rage? Did she exhibit signs of being dangerous and unhinged before the murder? Can analysing this crime help people to detect dangerous signs in others? Can a person who commits such a savage and monstrous crime ever be truly rehabilitated? Why was Bernadette portrayed as a sympathetic character who was bullied by Kirsten when there is no evidence to support that she was bullied by Kirsten?...amongst many other questions.
Unfortunately, there appears to be a lot of arguing on this blog because there has been a lot of trolling and egregious comments written about Kirsten.

"i think dwelling on the person who murdered her is not the way to honor and remember "

This blog isn't about "dwelling". This blog informs people that Kirsten wasn't the insufferable bully bitch depicted in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader", and Bernadette wasn't the sweet little self conscious lamb that yearned for popularity, but mean Kirsten stood in her way. My point is, Bernadette wasn't the socially inept misfit depicted in the movie and was suggested "to be popular in her own way".

"You should be posting about kristen and the good things you remember her"

Some people have done just that. However, I don't see what's wrong with defending a murder victim against those who deliberately tarnish her reputation and vilify her 30+ years after her death. That's horrible and it should be addressed.

"all youre doing is shining a spotlight on her and if she is a sociopath or a psychopath you are giving her what she wants ATTENTION"

I understand your point. However, as I wrote above, I think the purpose of this blog is to inform people that Kirsten wasn't the insufferable bully depicted in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader, and Bernadette wasn't the sweet doe eyed little lamb that was victimised by Kirsten. I think it's important that someone gets that point across because Kirsten is still being vilified by people who are incapable or critical thought and assume a fictional depiction is fact.

I'm very sorry you went through that and I hope you are okay.Thank you for your well- intentioned comment.
At December 24, 2016 at 11:48 PM , Karen : ) said...: It was a movie, Deanna. A movie.
At December 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM , Anonymous said...: Wow "Deanna". I'm sure Bernie and some of her pals are here too.
At December 26, 2016 at 10:11 PM , Anonymous said...: You should look at some of the recent comments left under December 2014.
At December 28, 2016 at 11:16 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

I think people like that are a lost cause if they assume a fictional depiction is fact and criticise the murder victim.

I hope you are enjoying the festive season.

All the best.
At December 29, 2016 at 5:23 PM , Unknown said...: Everyone is interested in how a person can murder and move on with their life, it is hard to comprehend so the curiosity continues. This includes the family of the murder.
At December 29, 2016 at 6:09 PM , tazlover0127 said...: You are absolutely correct in your views I don't agree with anybody who thinks that Kristin in any way deserved what happened to her I have read about this case the 2 girls ran in the same circles from what I've read Bernadette was very jealous of Kristin and wanted her life so badly she was willing to kill to get it I don't care how old she was she should still be in jail for what she has done Kristin's family are in their own personal prison and always will be Bernadette definitely had and probably still has psychotic tendencies and her punishment most definitely did not fit her crime. She obviously was manipulative enough to fool everybody for months that in itself makes her dangerous I can't imagine what she may still be capable of but the victim in all of this should not now nor EVER be blamed for her murder honestly I think some of the people who are making these negative comments are seriously disturbed themselves some of you should try to imagine it was your child who was stabbed to death so brutally would you say well her actions caused this I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT try to have some respect for this poor girl whose life was taken so senselessly and her family
At December 29, 2016 at 6:10 PM , tazlover0127 said...: Wishing you the same Purple haze
At December 29, 2016 at 10:10 PM , Anonymous said...: Exactly, Unknown.
At December 30, 2016 at 8:28 PM , Anonymous said...: If she was a bully then how come Bernadette only stated that Kirsten made a remark to her on the ski trip? I don't find that as being a bully. I don't think Kirsten had talked to Bernadette or interacted with her but only when she was in their presence talking to her childhood friend. You actually are going to believe the movie and vilify Kirsten without getting any facts? This blog in to support and honor Kirsten even 32 years after her death and you want to come here from what you get off a movie and call her a soul less bitch. Please don't refer to the one who is dead and gone in a sick manner! Appreciate it if you keep your self centered Bernie supporting comments to yourself! Thanks!
At December 30, 2016 at 8:33 PM , Anonymous said...: Not even in seven years can a person be truly rehabilitated!! She got a slap on the wrist while Kirsten in dead!
At December 30, 2016 at 9:36 PM , Anonymous said...: I'm getting an abortion next week and I CAN'T WAIT!!!
At December 31, 2016 at 12:46 PM , Anonymous said...: TOMANKA Katholeen, 82 of OKC, died December 27, 2001. She was born December 15, 1919 in DeQueen, AR to John and Daisy Minor. She was preceded in death by her parents, 5 brothers and sisters and her husband Harry. She is survived by her son, Karl and his wife Sue of Yukon, OK; 2 grandchildren, Gary and his wife Jeannette of Mill Creek, WA; Dianna and her husband Dwight Stegman of Bethany, OK; 1 brother, John Minor and wife Alice of DeQueen, AR. Services will be 10:00 AM Saturday at Guardian West Chapel with interment to follow at Tecumseh Mission Cemetery, Tecumseh, OK. GUARDIAN WEST 41 & N. MacArthur 495-9292

Archive ID: 876461

One of Gary's family members passed away but Jeannette's name is in the article. What a big surprise while she has been trying to fly under the radar!
At December 31, 2016 at 12:50 PM , Anonymous said...: Really? What does that have to do with Kirsten and honoring her. Get out of here.
At December 31, 2016 at 3:51 PM , Anonymous said...: Nice that you would use the obituary of a deceased relative who had nothing whatsoever to do with the murder to make a point. Pathetic.
At January 2, 2017 at 7:20 PM , Anonymous said...: It's not pathetic its actually interesting! Hmm seems Jeannette has a lot of relatives in different states.
At January 2, 2017 at 10:12 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

"I've read Bernadette was very jealous of Kristin and wanted her life so badly she was willing to kill to get it"

Bernadette admitted that she had and inferiority complex and Kirsten represented what she wanted and felt that she couldn't achieve. It was also reported that Bernadette attended counseling for her jealousy issues.

"I don't care how old she was she should still be in jail for what she has done Kristin's family are in their own personal prison and always will be"

No doubt Bernadette's measly sentence was a spit in the face for Kirsten's family and loved ones.

"Bernadette definitely had and probably still has psychotic tendencies and her punishment most definitely did not fit her crime. "

I don't know what treatment she received in the juvenile facility, but one of her parole board officers strongly objected to her release (she was released a year early).

He said the following about Bernadette:

"Bernadette remains a danger to the public and is in need of further treatment to address her inability to control her anger and impulses.'

Wisehart referred to a recent incident during which Protti demonstrated ''anger and a lack of impulse control'' in a confrontation with her boyfriend at the Youth Authority school.

"I hate to think how she would have handled the incident had she been on parole and able to arm herself and stalk again another victim"

"She has a hidden trigger that anyone can pull just by not giving (her) what she thinks she should get in a relationship."

"She obviously was manipulative enough to fool everybody for months that in itself makes her dangerous"

That's what I keep reflecting back to. Please excuse me for repeating myself, but an example that shows that Bernadette didn’t have respect for Kirsten’s family and shows how detached Bernadette was from killing Kirsten was that she appeared to have no inhibitions about attending Kirsten’s funeral. She would have seen Kirsten’s parents and brother crying anguished tears of unfathomable sorrow and would have seen the inconsolable grief and despair etched into their faces, and she had the unconscionable gall to not only attend Kirsten’s funeral knowing she was responsible for putting Kirsten in her coffin, but also had the cold nerve to be in the presence of and be able to look at Kirsten’s family whose sadness and grief would have been heart wrenchingly palpable.

Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to watch as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder. Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that her behaviour was reported to not have changed after she killed Kirsten (She was described as her usual smiley self). She could block it out of her mind (her words). If Bernadette was able to block out and detach herself from Kirsten's murder when she was a teenager, it's possible that she can block out and detach herself from Kirsten's murder now as an adult.

"I can't imagine what she may still be capable of but the victim in all of this should not now nor EVER be blamed for her murder honestly I think some of the people who are making these negative comments are seriously disturbed themselves"

I think some people vilify Kirsten either because they are unable to feel empathy, or because they identify with the Angela Delvecchio character that was loosely based on Bernadette in the movie, "Death of a Cheerleader". Also, some people seem to believe that the "Stacey Lockwood" character loosely based on Kirsten is a factual depiction and they appear to project their own negative experiences onto Kirsten due to their own bullying experiences.

All the best.
At January 2, 2017 at 10:24 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

Yes. Why didn't Bernadette give examples at the trial of Kirsten bullying her, which would surely have strengthened her case?

"You actually are going to believe the movie and vilify Kirsten without getting any facts?"

Critical thinking is either beyond some people's capacity, or some people might identify too much with the fictional character loosely based on Bernadette.
At January 2, 2017 at 10:29 PM , Karen : ) said...: It is well known here that Bernadette Protti is JT, so posting the obituary of the in-law was unnecessary. Mrs T. has nothing to do with this case and it wouldn't surprise me at all if she wasn't aware that Bernadette was a murderer. Please, leave her alone.
At January 3, 2017 at 2:22 AM , Anonymous said...: Hi Virginia! Do you still keep an 18 inch knife in your car to cut vegetables for lunch? There are more appropriate knives to keep in your car to use for fruit and vegetables, such as a meat cleaver for example. Just make sure Bernie doesn't borrow your car because we know what can happen!
At January 3, 2017 at 6:57 AM , Anonymous said...: Purplehaze:you use the word that too much. That that that that that that that that!!!!
At January 3, 2017 at 8:02 AM , Anonymous said...: You just used it nine times. So STFU or find something substantive to contribute.
At January 3, 2017 at 10:14 AM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

That is an interesting observation that you have made that I agree with. It's not that I do that on purpose, it's just that I genuinely don't realise that I do that. I appreciate that you brought that to my attention and I apologise that it bothered you enough that you felt the need to comment on that.

Now that I'm more aware of that, I might make an effort to do something about that. Well, that's all I have to say about that.

Thanks for that.
At January 3, 2017 at 8:14 PM , Anonymous said...: I agree, get the hell off here baby killer.
At January 3, 2017 at 8:17 PM , Anonymous said...: Disrespectful to Mrs. T.
At January 5, 2017 at 11:29 PM , Anonymous said...: This is a question for everyone..Does everyone believe Jeannette is still capable of killing today? After all, she is a psycho and has no remorse.
At January 6, 2017 at 6:28 AM , Unknown said...: First, Who is Virginia?
I just saw this movie. It paints Kirsten as a monster and Bernadette as a sweet, misunderstood girl. I'm sure it was exaggerated for the movie. What a sad story. It's obvious this child had/has serious mental issues. She snapped. I really hope she got the help she needed. I'm scared for her children, if she has any. Or more scared for the children that her kids may be jealous of. It's just so bizarre to me that her crime was treated so lightly. I don't understand that. Sad for both families 😔
At January 6, 2017 at 6:29 AM , Unknown said...: I don't think she got the help she needed so yes, I think she's capable of snapping again.
At January 6, 2017 at 6:43 AM , Anonymous said...: This is a question for everyone.. Does everyone enjoy getting rammed up the ass as much as I do?
At January 6, 2017 at 3:57 PM , Anonymous said...: Virginia is Bernadette Protti's sister who owned the knife left in the car. Some people think she weighs in on this forum from time to time. I doubt it but who knows.
At January 6, 2017 at 8:15 PM , Anonymous said...: I dont see how blood wasn't discovered in the pinto, unless. Bernadette went to her sister in confidence, and, she helped her clean out the car. She probaly helped her dispose of her bloody clothes at Meadows swim club. Virginia knew alot more than she told the judge, no one uses an 18 inch butcherknife to cut vegetables, a pearing knife maybe but a butcherknife, the judge was a joke, the entire case was a joke, all. Bernadette got was a smack on the wrist. Over bullying, oh please, Kirsten didnt bully Bernadette, she trusted her enough to get in her car, even friends said. Bernadette was popular in her own way, they dont know why she thought she wasnt. She was in the. Bob O Links, what more did she want. she wanted to be. Kirsten, maybe had a girl crush on. Kirsten, and. Kirsten threaten to expose her that way. Bernadette is weird and twisted. still is, a leopard never changes its spots, even if she has reformed and changed, she can't Change the fact she murdered Kirsten, all for no good reason. She has to live with that the rest of her life, no outgrowing it, way to late.
At January 7, 2017 at 4:11 AM , Unknown said...: Oh, wow. Thanks. Hmm, I really wonder if she does. I mean, they must be seeing this blog. But, like you said, who knows...
At January 7, 2017 at 4:20 AM , Unknown said...: I don't think it was bullying. It's like whatever Kirsten said or didn't say to her, was taken so seriously to heart. I feel it really bothered her that Kirsten couldn't care any less about her and all she wanted was Kirsten's acceptance and friendship. To me, this is not a case of bullying at all. Kirsten was snotty, maybe. Cocky and confident. But I think that Bernadette was so desperate to be a part of Kirsten's inner circle and to be accepted by her and she saw any little remark or lack of any communication from Kirsten as the end of the world. Kirsten was being obsessed over and had no idea. Bernadette was trying desperately to have a friendship with Kirsten and it was never going to happen. Normal people move on. She, in her extremely troubled mind, could not.
This is such a bizarre and sad case.
At January 7, 2017 at 4:22 AM , Unknown said...: Does anyone know...Was there really a party that night?
At January 7, 2017 at 8:16 PM , Anonymous said...: All of our 80's icons are leaving us! Michael, Whitney, Prince, George, Kirsten!
At January 8, 2017 at 9:06 PM , Anonymous said...: No, there was no party that night Jen Lazar.
At January 8, 2017 at 9:09 PM , Anonymous said...: LOL Purple Haze @ THAT. Nitpicking anons.
At January 9, 2017 at 1:08 AM , Anonymous said...: You know you shouldn't share your sick sexual life with us! Nobody is interested in hearing that!
At January 9, 2017 at 1:33 AM , Anonymous said...: Jeannette tomanka the crazy psycho bitch with no remorse!!! She butchered Kirsten then people want to point fingers saying Kirsten is the monster that's bullshit. No the real monster is Jeannette tomanka. Just ask her a question and see how well it goes , I bet she will lash out at you on her Facebook page!
At January 9, 2017 at 1:35 AM , Anonymous said...: Wow, some girl actually outed her and brought up the murder and it hasn't been deleted! Surprise!!!
At January 9, 2017 at 3:36 AM , Anonymous said...: She does not lash out on her FB page. She just deletes irrelevant comments or questions.
At January 9, 2017 at 3:37 AM , Anonymous said...: It will be. No surprise there. You're new to all this, aren't you?
At January 9, 2017 at 10:06 AM , Unknown said...: Thanks, Susan. So crazy.
At January 9, 2017 at 1:48 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

"This is a question for everyone.. Does everyone enjoy getting rammed up the ass as much as I do?"

I do. I love a good ol' rogering up the backside, who doesn't? Such jolly good tremendous fun.
At January 9, 2017 at 2:01 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonymous,

"This is a question for everyone..Does everyone believe Jeannette is still capable of killing today? After all, she is a psycho and has no remorse."

Everyone is capable of killing under the wrong circumstances (ex: duress, rape, if loved ones are seriously attacked..etc.) However, Bernadette's vicious reaction was abnormal and insane. Why did she do it? It seems that she did it because Kirsten called her behaviour weird (it was,imo) and she wanted Bernadette to get away from her (Bernadette stalked Kirsten to Kirsten's house.) Bernadette was reported to be an intelligent girl, yet she couldn't foresee how luring someone –- an acquaintance at best -- out of her house under false pretences would be interpreted? She couldn’t foresee how Kirsten would react when the lie (no dinner for the new bobbies) was discovered? The frenzied knife attack she subjected Kirsten to was abominable and obviously indicative of a deeply disturbed, sick mind.

What also disturbs me is that Bernadette was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to discuss Kirsten's murder in class with classmates, some of which included Kirsten's friends. She was so detached from killing Kirsten that she was able to watch as two innocent girls were blamed for Kirsten's murder. She was so detached from killing Kirsten that her behaviour was reported to not have changed after she killed Kirsten (She was described as her usual smiley self). She could block it out of her mind (her words). That is quite a façade for a 16 year old girl to keep up for 6 months.

Do I think she could do it again? I do (I obviously hope she doesn't and I hope she is aware of and can control whatever it was that induced her murderous rage.)

I've mentioned this may times before, but she knew how the unfortunate phrase "life hacker" would be interpreted, yet she used it anyway. She was asked about it on the visitor posts section of her FB page and her response suggests it has a nefarious double meaning with the winking smiley face (i.e. she is making a joke of Kirsten's murder). That's not the behaviour of someone who is truly remorseful, is it?

What also perturbs me is that Bernadette is also still quite good at keeping things to herself. Her husband wasn't aware that she killed Kirsten until two years ago when they started receiving phone calls and emails. I suppose that had something to do with the other website revealing her name around that time.
At January 9, 2017 at 2:09 PM , Anonymous said...: "Her husband wasn't aware that she killed Kirsten until two years ago when they started receiving phone calls and emails."

Are you sure about that? For some reason, I thought they met when she was still incarcerated. I find it impossible to believe he did not know.
At January 9, 2017 at 2:11 PM , Karen : ) said...: "Virginia is Bernadette Protti's sister who owned the knife left in the car."

That's a matter of opinion. I don't think she owned the knife. It doesn't make sense to keep a 15"/18" knife in the car for the purpose of cutting fruit and veg for lunch. The more I think about it, the more outlandish and stupid it gets.
At January 9, 2017 at 2:12 PM , Karen : ) said...: This comment has been removed by the author.
At January 9, 2017 at 2:16 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Jen,

"Does anyone know...Was there really a party that night?"

I initially didn't think so, but now I'm not so sure. If you look under the article "sorry for the wait... (June)", I posted an article about Bernadette's trial (18/19 comments), which gives a bit of info on Bernadette and Kirsten. I'm fairly certain that I read that Bernadette's close friend's bf was having a party that night and it's been confirmed elsewhere.

It's a good article. Give it a read when you have the time.
At January 9, 2017 at 2:21 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Susan,

Some fool has been posting a lot of silly comments lately on the blog, such as "does anyone else like to get rammed up the ass as much as I do". What a stupid question! Of course we do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At January 9, 2017 at 2:26 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Anonyous,

"Wow, some girl actually outed her and brought up the murder and it hasn't been deleted! Surprise!!!"

I didn't see any comment. What did it say?
At January 9, 2017 at 2:43 PM , Karen : ) said...: Hi Jen,

I made a mistake in my previous comment to you. It wasn't clearly stated that Bernadette's bf was having a party that night. A name was mentioned. I got confirmation about it somewhere else.

As weird as Bernadette's behaviour was to lure Kirsten out of her house alone, it's even weirder just to drive her nowhere. Although it's inexplicable that Bernadette couldn't foresee that luring Kirsten out of her house under false pretences wouldn't be well received, I don't think she was stupid enough to think Kirsten would be okay with her driving her to a car-park and staying their (alone) for a couple of hours.
At January 9, 2017 at 4:53 PM , Anonymous said...: Where is our fearless leader Brittany? She's AWOL for a while now.
At January 9, 2017 at 8:03 PM , Anonymous said...: She must have deleted it but the girl called her Bernie and brought up the murder. Lol that murderer gets what she deserves!
At January 9, 2017 at 8:07 PM , Anonymous said...: I can't blame Kirsten for interpreting bernadette's behavior as weird. She is more than weird!!!
At January 9, 2017 at 8:10 PM , Anonymous said...: Take it from someone who was a cheerleader and a snob that's me I was in high school. After high school we change, we become adults! I just think bernadette was a loser and I would have been hard on her!!!
At January 10, 2017 at 12:08 AM , Karen : ) said...: !I just think bernadette was a loser and I would have been hard on her!!"

Hard on her where? In school? Well, you are just perpetuating a stereotype by writing that.

Bernadette Protti IS Jeannette Tomanka

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